Bush: Leaving iraq Would Be a Bad Signal

[Not_Giving_Up]

CRAWFORD, Texas -
President Bush said Thursday he understands and respects the views of anti-war advocates like a California mother camped outside his Texas ranch to mourn her soldier son fallen in
Iraq, but said it would be a mistake to bring U.S. troops home now.
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"I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place," Bush said.

"I also have heard the voices of those saying: Pull out now," he said. "And I've thought about their cry and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree."

Immediate withdrawal "would send a terrible signal to the enemy."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050811/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=Aq_kZeoFK.pvc8UnqN6qB2ms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

[iconoclastic cat]

1. The enemy to whom he refers is, of course, us. nt

[Catchawave]

2. He on now......

...not sure what he's babbling about now ????

[ClintonTyree]

3. I wish his father had listened........

to Babs when she told him to "pull out now". Then we wouldn't be stuck with this miserable cretin. :grr:

We've already sent a "terrible signal to the enemy". That signal being, 'we're waging a Crusade against Islam, we're not of sufficient strength to put down the "insurgency", and we won't listen to reason or work with the rest of the world to solve problems'. Yeah, we've already sent them a BIG message. We're stupid! :eyes:

[JDPriestly]

4. How about an apology for having gotten us there.

in the first place. Doesn't Cindy Sheehan, don't we have a right to that at a minimum?

How about an admission from Bush that, yes, he fixed the intelligence to justify an unjust, illegal war?

How about taking responsibility for having mismanaged the war in any event?

How about coming clean about what is really going on in Iraq?

What a sorry excuse for a man -- a dishonest, cowardly, sneaky bully.

[Supersedeas]

8. Exactly, an apology about the faulty justifications for this mess--what

about that!!!

[SpiralHawk]

5. Bad signal to the Oil Republicans who are getting rich on this

"What the hell, we only have about 2,000 deaths of US armed services personnel so far, and look at all the money we are making." - BushCo Republicans

[ClintonTyree]

16. Their dollar to dead soldier ratio must be staggering..........

I'll bet they're making AT LEAST $5 million per dead soldier, and that's a VERY conservative estimate. They have to be VERY happy with a ratio like that, not that it would stand in their way if it was much lower, but those petro-dollars are pouring in.

I'd like to add the :sarcasm: emoticon here, but I'm afraid this is too close to the truth. They really don't care how many die as long as those Billions keep rolling in. Heartless, cold bastards, each and all.

[ozymandius]

6. People getting blown up for no damn good reason is a bad signal. n/t

[H5N1]

7. "I just strongly disagree." There you go. End of story.

We ain't going nowhere (besides expanding the carnage into Iran).

[Cha]

9. Did the Gargoyle say why he..

WON'T MEET WITH CINDY?

[Catchawave]

10. I think his news conference in on tape?

This is not live ?

[Not_Giving_Up]

20. This was on Yahoo just before the press conference

MSNBC said that they originally only had an audio tape of the press conference :wtf:

[Catchawave]

32. That's what I heard too.....

I came in when the MSNBC *twinkie* was waiting for the *rewind*?

So the *press conference we saw today* was not LIVE?

:wtf: is right !!!!

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

11. "I just strongly disagree" is a "nobel cause?"

more mumbo jumbo from mealy mouth hisself.

[flordehinojos]

12. only in bush's narcissistic, power-and-control-freak mind, only in his

greed for oil .... only there would it be a bad signal for bush to pull out of iraq now.

bush has not heard. if he had heard he would CONSIDER pulling out of iraq. HE is not eve doing that. He has gotten hold of the oval office and won't let go. He has gotten hold of Iraq and won't let go.

bush is a bastard!

.

The Bastard continues to play games with Casey Sheehan.

.

[EST]

13. Yah, I'm watching that shit fountain on msnbc

(Gagging and yelling a lot)
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[flpoljunkie]

14. Does no one have the guts to ask him if he will speak with Ms. Sheehan?

None, so far!

[The_Casual_Observer]

15. Guess What? We ain't leaving Iraq. We are NEVER leaving Iraq

Because it will ALWAYS send a terrible signal to an enemy that will ALWAYS be there.

[flpoljunkie]

17. We have not "laid down a foundation for peace" but stirred up a sh*t storm

Dubya. And that is the truth.

[stopbush]

18. "There's plenty more dying ta do!!' sez the serial murderer-in-chief

[karynnj]

19. This really says it all

"I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place," Bush said.

The word, some, is astonishing. It is stunning to me that he doesn't use the words, we all. Saying we all takes nothing away from the value of the war - say the sentences thinking WWII.

That he uses some, likely means he feels no anguish for the deaths.

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. He is making a veiled reference to Cindy I think.

They are clearly troubled about what is going on out there. He has no idea how stupid he sounds when he says stuff like this.

[rodeodance]

26. not veiled--as he asked Are you referring to Mrs. Sheenen?--when a

reporter asked a question.

[karynnj]

31. I agree that it was intended as a condensending put down

minimizing her genuine, obvious grief.

The point I was making was that he is in affect imply that feeling anguish that a person has been killed is a feeling felt only by some. If he would have said, that we all feel anquish that people die in war, but it is necessary because ...., then he would be placing himself in the group of people who realize the realness of the sacrifice.

This is not even political - Can you imagine Reagan saying this? I would hope the norm is more similar to the looks of anguish on Kennedy's and Kerry's faces at the funeral they attended for a Massachucetts soldier. In one photo, Kerry looked near tears as he hugged and supported an older relative of the young man. That is the normal reaction in responding emotionally to a mother's grief. Bush doesn't even fake it.

[LibDemAlways]

46. "about the death that takes place"

The idiot is using the passive tense here to try and distance himself from the deaths he's directly responsible for - over 1800 American soldiers, hundreds more "coalition" troops and contractors, who knows how many Iraqis -- never mind the thousands maimed for life.

You are right. The use of the word "some" is the product of a sick mind. Who wouldn't feel anguish about death in a war, particularly an unnecessary war based on lies? Only the immoral, evil sons of bitches who started it.

[Orion The Hunter]

22. Oh?

Did Bush peek out from under his bed to issue a statement? How brave of him...

It's easy to talk tough when you don't have the balls to stand in front of the people who's lives you are risking when you talk about a "bad signal".

[NNN0LHI]

23. We can never pull out of Germany, Italy and Japan either

It would send a bad signal to the Axis powers.

Don

[durablend]

28. You got it!

Hitler might come back from the dead and ATTACK!

TERRA TERRA TERRA!

[bufffbison]

24. and what is that terrible signal???

I also have heard the voices of those saying: 'Pull out now!' " he said. "And I've thought about their cry and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree."

ummm.. what the fuck? im not sure what point he is trying to get across? He only thinks about their "cry" but strongly disagree the soldiers should live.. thats the context i get from reading this!


Immediate withdrawal "would send a terrible signal to the enemy," the president said.

and what is that terrible signal? that we're ready for democracy to start in iraq and peace for the people? ending the violence? is that signal too terrible?

[Maven]

25. N_G_U, You may want to change the topic for this story

To reference Commander Boob's statement about "respect" for people like Cindy Sheehan. That's the really the more salient (read: nauseating) part of the article.

[info being]

27. And she needs to respond:

"I understand the greed that drives the policies of this admninistration, and I strongly disagree."

[kwolf68]

29. And the Shrub

administration has just been billowing good signals.

I can't believe this man is our President.

[jokerman93]

30. Not the enemy. What he meant to say was...

Immediate withdrawal "would send a terrible signal to the the bushco stockholders."

Can you just imagine how much money will be lost when Bushco and their slavish supporters finally realize they've really, really lost?

I'm not sure I want to be there for the meltdown.

[Javaman]

33. bad signal to whom, asshole*?

If it's us, well just to damn bad. It would just be such a pity to have the soldiers home and not dismembered, blown to pieces or shot.

:sarcasm:

If it's the Iraqi's, I certainly don't get that one. They want us the fuck out of there, it's only the puppet gov't that wants us there to protect their sorry crooked fucking asses.

Hey moron*, fuck you! send your goddamn twins!!

colossal failure*

[SlavesandBulldozers]

34. so much for not being driven by others' perceptions

i find it very telling that he ignores what a citizen thinks and listens to the terrorists.

i mean, does he push-poll the terrorists or something, and then act accordingly?

[PurgedVoter]

35. Sending the Wrong Signal

Pulling out of Iraq 'sends wrong signal' according to *

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=152296908&p=y5zz976y4

What signal does torture send? What signal does violating the spirit, intent, and word of the Constitution of the United States?
Raise your hand if you are tired of the usurper talking about the wrong signal.

[LeftNYC]

36. What signal does lying send? nt

[The_Casual_Observer]

37. It took them years to get out of Vietnam for exactly the same reason

[norml]

38. Bush: Leaving Iraq Would Be a Bad Signal

Bush: Leaving Iraq Would Be a Bad Signal
By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 49 minutes ago



CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush said Thursday he understands and respects the views of anti-war advocates like a California mother camped outside his Texas ranch to mourn her soldier son fallen in Iraq, but said it would be a mistake to bring U.S. troops home now.

"I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place," Bush said.

"I also have heard the voices of those saying: 'Pull out now!' " he said. "And I've thought about their cry and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree."

Immediate withdrawal "would send a terrible signal to the enemy," the president said.


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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050811/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

[aquart]

39. Well, sure. No one he loves is gonna die in Iraq.

[flakey_foont]

40. Too bad Poppy

didn't heed the voices to "pull out now" about 60 years ago

[theshadow]

42. Or as George Carlin said in his stand-up during Viet Nam....

...(posing as Nixon), "Pull out early? Doesn't sound manly!".

[MGKrebs]

41. We are way past "terrible signals" Dub.

The signals don't mean shit right now.

[keep CHOICES legal]

43. They are just testing their "verbal" spin.

Bush & Co will be spinning all kinds of phrases this month to see which ones are accepted by the American people. Right now, they are saying that "immediate withdrawal would send a terrible signal," at the same time, they are saying that there is the possibility that troops can start withdrawal in the Spring...and/or Summer of next year. (Of course they don't mention that they have to do SOME withdrawals because of the election in Nov 2006!...which is the real reason) They are just tap dancing around verbal exchanges instead of actually addressing the issue of withdrawal sincerely and honestly.

(Watch out for the spin phrase of the week from Republicans...."cultural elites" which is always used in the same paragraph as "Democrat" or "Liberal". They are hoping to use this phrase to promote ANY wedge issue before the next election. I think the Democrats should start referring to the Republicans as the "BULLY elites" to counteract their accusations. You know the party that has to push people around and intimidate them to get their own way...Bush administration, John Bolton, oil companies, business executives, corpations that outsource, etc.)

Testing...1...2...3..testing...

[MGKrebs]

49. Personally, I embrace 'cultural elite".

If, as the right often claims, most of the most educated (higher education teachers) and most informed (reporters) are liberal, what does that say for liberalism?

[keep CHOICES legal]

52. It's so difficult to get into a Rove mindset.

I understand what you are saying.

I'm thinking that Rove has to find a way to appeal to Bush's base. There are some Republicans, who have never been at "the head of the class." They like the feeling of power that being a Bush supporter gives them. They have never been in this situation before, and they like it. To them, their only threat to take this power away from them and dethrone Bush...would be the opposition...the "cultural elite". That is the phrase that I think Rove is promoting to rally some of Bush's intellectually-disinterested supporters.

LOGICAL THINKING is not part of THEIR mental circuitry. I'm sorry,.... but they are dumb, and easy to manipulate. The phrase "cultural elite" will scare them. Rove knows this.

[damntexdem]

44. Who's afraid of the big bad signal, big bad signal, big bad signal.

Who's afraid of the big bad signal -- hundreds more deaths are preferable.

[neuvocat]

45. I thought that going in there was a bad signal.

Who knew?

[teryang]

47. The bad signal is the political doom of military defeat

Nothing fails like a military failure. Haven't heard much of that world's only superpower bragging lately, have we?

How about, these "insurgent attacks have no tactical significance?"

This folly in Iraq, in fact the entire bloated military program run exclusively for the benefit the defense contractors, oil companies, and other have more blowhards is accelerating the strategic decline of our nation. The export of our industrial sector by the mavens of the financial dictatorship has already ruined us. The damage is probably irreversible in political and economic terms.

[billyoc]

48. SIGNAL?!

I want my neighbors back, I don't care what kind of "signal" that sends to anyone. :grr:

[truthisfreedom]

50. the "sending a terrible signal" part happened when we invaded, bush.

it's a little late to start talking "terrible signals" when everything about this illegal invasion has been a terrible signal to everyone on the planet.

[sakabatou]

51. What an asshat

"I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place," Bush said.

The why don't you fucking go out and talk to Cindy? Is it that fucking hard, Bush? Is it?! You have time to sign some new documents for the highway, but you don't have time from this mother of a fallen soldier? WTF?!

:rant:

[Maggie_May]

53. Yea signal

Look at the signal he sent to the Iraq people.
We come in destroy your homes kill your people and take over your oil.
I would fight too!!!

[bemildred]

54. I'll bet impeaching Bush and his handlers would be a really bad signal. nt

[KamaAina]

55. Yeah. That's a great reason to throw away more lives. (sarcasm)

It's much more important to make sure that we don't send a bad signal. :sarcasm: :grr: :banghead: :nuke:

[rocktivity]

56. "...This is the psychology of a badly damaged adolescent,

one who believes that admitting even a single mistake reveals that you’re not 'strong' and that you’re not a 'real man.' 'Staying the course,' even if all the evidence indisputably proves that the course will lead to nothing but destruction and failure, is the measure of one’s 'strength'—-and altering one’s direction, when every sign indicates that is the only sane action to take, reveals 'weakness.'

This is the psychology of a man whose self-esteem is tied to his belief that he is always right in every decision—-not that his method is correct, which is where a man of genuine self-esteem will ground his self-worth (since all of us will make errors...), but that he is right in each specific decision he makes. For such a man to admit...(to)...disastrous and calamitous error would be an admission that he himself is a failure.

...There is only one possible healthy reaction...you should be very, very afraid. I certainly am."

From The Light Of Reason

:headbang:
rocknation

[VegasWolf]

57. "Stay the Course!" "Thousand points of Light!" "I'm the War President!"