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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:15 PM
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Tests indicate seized chemicals could have been used for explosives, milit
Tests indicate seized chemicals could have been used for explosives, military says

By Antonio Castaneda
ASSOCIATED PRESS

3:49 p.m. August 14, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq – Early tests of chemicals seized at a suspected insurgent hideout in northern Iraq indicate they included substances that could be used in explosives, the U.S. military said Sunday.
About 1,500 gallons of various chemicals were found in what the military called an insurgent chemical production facility in Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad.

Col. Henry Franke, a nuclear, biological, and chemical defense officer, said chemical samples indicate that the facility could have been used to produce explosives, and that it appeared to be associated with insurgents. However, he said no explosives – only their components – were found.

Chemical samples have been sent to the United States for further tests, Franke said. The military did not say when the tests – which will determine the exact chemicals found, among other things – are expected to be complete.

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20050814-1549-iraq-chemicalfind.html

Looks like the Great Freeper WMD Hope is now a dud.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:19 PM
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1. Officials also noted...
That the chemical, known as baking soda, could be combined with vinegar to power small plastic submarines.

The combination has also been used with red food coloring to form deadly volcanoes.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:34 PM
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9. OMG!
I'm familiar with that chemical! Mixed with vinegar it forms carbon dioxide...a gas deadly to humans!
:wow:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:21 PM
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2. Anyone who has seen the photos of this "find" knows...
...it is a deteriorating mess that looks as if it hadn't seen the light of day in decades. Of course, with the help of the complicit media, Bush may get some mileage out of it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:23 PM
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3. i bet you can find all that stuff
at a home depot,menards,or lowes.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:25 PM
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4. Iraq's heavy industry was overwhelmingly chemicals.
That's easy to find stuff in CIA factbooks. Which obviously no one at OSP has read.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:28 PM
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5. "Tests indicate seized chemicals could have been used for explosive"...
or cleaning the bathroom...
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:32 PM
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6. Something new
to keep our minds off Grand Juries, new CIA books saying we could have caught OBL in Bora Bora and the possibility that a high ranking military official was demoted, possibly for planning a coup. Bush probably drank or inhaled most of those chemicals a few years ago.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:33 PM
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7. Like there is a shortage of explosives there!
Hello numnuts, you let them steal how many tons of the good stuff? Why would they have to make inferior explosives when they have several tons of primo RBX?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:33 PM
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8. Oooooooooh..... you mean like the hundreds of tons of high explosives
we DIDN'T GUARD, while we absolutely guarded the oil ministry??? Not impressed with this recent find... not at all.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:51 PM
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10. But we are supposed to shout 'hallalujah' that they found
this outdated site and forget the fact that they forgot to guard the tons of stuff that disappeared.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:59 PM
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11. Mark my words:
6 months down the road, after they have extracted the last little bit of
PR mileage out of this, they will announce that it was a water treatment plant or something like that.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:15 PM
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12. This is just pathetic. Embarassing. nt
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:16 PM
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13. gimme a break, running an IR and GC/MS takes minutes/sample
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 09:17 PM by kodi
the tests could be run at any decently equipped university chemistry dept lab in the world.

1.500 gallons is what you can put on to 7-8 pallets. its nearly nothing.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:30 AM
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14. Tests indicate the chemicals were made of atoms
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 12:30 AM by daleo
And atoms are known to be the building blocks of all explosives, including atomic bombs.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:45 AM
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15. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. More BS from the BSmeisters.
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