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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:53 PM
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BTK killer 'revealed sex motive'
The man who confessed to the "Bind, Torture, Kill" murders in the US had a sexual motive in picking his first victims, a sentencing judge has heard.

Killer Dennis Rader told police he targeted Josephine Otero, 11, because he was attracted to Hispanics.

Rader, a former church leader, pleaded guilty in June to the murders of 10 people in the city of Wichita in Kansas between 1974 and 1991.


..snip...

"He said that he has always been attracted to Hispanic looking people - dark eyes, dark hair, dark skin. He said Josey was the one who caught his eye and she was his target," Mr Lundin said, noting that Rader also told him he was attracted to "younger women".


This is what a sick fuck looks like:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4159462.stm
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Lenore Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:59 PM
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1. Are you listening to this sick MOFO?
Pardon my French but, this man is beyond sick!

Why is he compairing himself to each of the victims???

"He was a pilot, I wanted to be a pilot"

"She was a wife like my wife"

"He had a dog.. I was a boy with a dog"

"She played with barbies just like my girl, at that age, played with barbies"

WTH???
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:01 PM
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2. I'm listening and sick..... why are we listening to this
He had a plan for each victim in the afterlife as some type of slave?
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:03 PM
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3. Sounds a lot like the Zodiac Killer's motive:
Killing people in the interest of collecting "Slaves" for "The Afterlife."

Huh....now that I think about it....doesn't that also sound like what a lot of white male fundamentalists want out of life?
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:09 PM
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6. wow...
wonder if he stole the idea
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:13 PM
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23. Hmmm,
I thought of 40 virgins in the afterlife (Mohammed Atta) and male suicide bombers in their notes discussing this kind of thing
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Lenore Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:07 PM
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4. I am listening because...
I have followed the case well before this sick Freek was captured.

I am still convinced that one of the internet boards he frequented is Free Republic. Every few weeks I do a quick little site search, using google, to see if someone hasn't finally fessed up over there and told the truth that Rader is one of them.

I have added that Gung Ho' Cross bashing redneck from Waco to my "I know that person MUST be a Freeking Freeper" watch list.

Am I the only one that can see it???
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:08 PM
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5. no you aren't the only one
watching on Court Tv as wanted to hear the victim statements... heartbreaking
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:10 PM
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7. That's interesting
I never go over to that armpit. Let us know if you find any connection. Any guys over there salivating over eleven year-old Latina girls?
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:18 PM
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15. BTK/#ush
both have no empathy or feeling or remorse. Both are control freaks. Both believe in some wonderful afterlife for them despite their deeds. Both love the media attention and idolatry.

anyone else?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:21 PM
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25. Did he somewhere admit he was Republican?
I look at this guy and just think: straight ol' sociopath. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, etal. Oh and monkeyboy
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:07 PM
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29. Would this guy be talking on my TV all day if his skin were brown?
I have serious doubts.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:10 PM
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8. I cannot fathom the fascination America has with this shit.
Amazing that this scum gets all that press.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:11 PM
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9. I don't think he's going to give up the microphone
big mistake to allow this guy his moment in the sun.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:15 PM
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10. I'm Latino
he was obsessed with Latina girls. Like my nieces. You'll forgive my "fascination" with this case. Are you critiquing my decision to post this, or simply the fact that Americans focus on sick fucks like this when Bushco is committing crimes against humanity on a much greater scale?

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:00 PM
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20. I'm "Latino"...
and couldn't care less about this case or this man. And still don't understand the media's 24/7 fascination with it.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:01 PM
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21. Your results may vary
I was asking a question.

Peace
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:07 PM
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22. Paz
:pals:
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:33 PM
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28. Paz, hermano
I don't watch much TV news - get most of it online, especially here. So I wasn't aware that this is on TV so much.

I think cruel, sick bastards like this guy hold an ugly fascination for most people.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:17 PM
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24. I think mass murderers almost always offer sensationalism
and in probably every culture
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:27 AM
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37. I guess deviant psychology is fascinating

it ought to be right now.
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Stryguy Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:51 PM
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11. Just another repressed republican "church goer".

Perhaps if they weren't so sexually repressed they wouldn't have to act out like this.

If he and his wife were democrats she would have let him tie her up and spank her a little.

LOL

In bad taste.. yes.. true.. yes.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:06 PM
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13. Sexual repression doesn't turn you into a serial killer
Being a sociopath does.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:00 PM
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19. I agree. This guy is organically ill. He has a faulty program...
running in his diseased brain. At some time in his development, a connection was made that shouldn't have been, or a connection was NOT made that should have been.

But there is nothing in this guy's life that could have predicted or prevented his behavior. That's the truly scary part of all of this.

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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:36 PM
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26. Today's NYT reports that
this guy was hanging stray dogs in the barn before 1974.
Perhaps that's what he is alluding to in the OP article, that his "troubles" began in school.
Most of these serial killers start out by abusing and killing animals.
Any child or adolescent who exhibits cruelty towards animals should receive psychiatric help immediately, before they turn into a Dahmer.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 06:26 PM
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27. I have a 14 yr old neighbor on his way
very sad. Was adopted at age 3 found digging in garbage to find food for his baby brother... mother addict living on street.

He tried to poison a 4th grader and expelled permanently from school district. No help here for him. He sits on porch all day as parents won't allow him in house while at work...so he does devilish deeds all day in the neighborhood with our pets.

They say it comes from intense rage and I can see that.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:48 PM
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30. Good God! Shouldn't CPS be involved with that situation?
It sounds like he's not getting the treatment he needs.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:15 PM
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31.  I wish
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 08:16 PM by medeak
we live in remote area.. adopted parents need to move to get care for him. At present he's been in Head Start with 4 yr olds.

Every available agency in this small area knows him very well.

edited to say I read the police blotter every day and feel relief when he's arrested again....have a few days of peace.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:02 AM
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32. What a terrible, sad situation.
I don't know what to think. The parents almost have an obligation to go where they can get help for their child, no?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:28 AM
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34. Didn't Bush torture animals as a kid??? Frogs?
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 01:28 AM by kestrel91316
That's what I thought.

He belongs in a secure lockup 'til the day he dies.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:53 AM
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36. I read that in this DU article
According to childhood friends, Bush used to blow up frogs with firecrackers and shoot them with BB guns. As several therapists have pointed out, this cruelty to animals is a trait he shares with many serial killers.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/07/17_wwjt.html

It is also discussed in chapter six of "Bush on the Couch."
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:18 AM
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33. Well put. This guy doesn't fit the sterotype "loner" murder/rapist at all.
Just goes to show you that no matter how much we think we are safe, we really are not.

How many more "Raders" are out there right now, maybe right down the block?

No way to know, I'll wager.


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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:03 PM
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12. Folks like this...
... are the reason I still support the death penalty in certain cases.

This dude is no more human than a rabid dog is "Fido".

I hope he gets Dahmer'ed in prison.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:08 PM
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14. Actually, I think he should be sent to a lab and studied.
Map his brain, do all sort of tests. Useful information could come out.

Then, put him in a cage in the middle of a room with an exhibit of his crimes. Do same with other fringe psychos. Charge admittance. NC-17.
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OfireitupO Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:25 PM
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16. How does this happen inside a human brain?
Is what we should be trying to figure out.

The huamn brain is complex, and theres obviously something in this mans past that made him go crazy or triggered another side of him. Could also have been a genetic mutation. Sounds a bit like schoziphrenia to me along with sexual repression.

Fucked up the way the human brain can turn anyone into a murderous killer.
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Emendator Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:51 PM
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17. Anyone else think he looks like David Horowitz?
Probably more sane.
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:59 PM
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18. He appears to be a Narcissist and Antisocial
The best thing to do to this bag of crap is to NEVER allow him any more attention.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:42 AM
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35. Heard he was going to be mainstreamed into ..
the general populace - jail house justice will seek him out. Tee hee!
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