Bush: Troops in Iraq protect US from terror

[maddezmom]

August 20 2005 at 03:18PM

Crawford, Texas - American President George Bush said on Saturday that United States troops in Iraq were fighting to protect Americans at home from terrorism like the September 11 attacks four years ago.

"Our troops know that they're fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere to protect their fellow Americans from a savage enemy," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets, and they know that the safety and security of every American is at stake in this war, and they know we will prevail," he said.


more: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1124543340909B212

full text:http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050820/dcsa003.html?.v=8

[bemildred]

1. The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.

Hide Granny in the attic, I'll go get the shotgun.
:puke:

[maddezmom]

3. and what was the bullshit Mehlman was spewing the other day......

ah yes, here it is:

Mehlman: Democratic Party only offers fear
http://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/story/0818202005_new07_mehlman081805.asp

Kenny look in the mirror :eyes:

[Imagevision]

75. I definitly recommend this post!!

[maddezmom]

77. thanks...looks like the repubs are pros at projection

:hi:

[txindy]

112. He's too afraid to look in the mirror.

He's probably afraid there will be no reflection looking back at him.

[elehhhhna]

10. The Russians ARE coming, and they're bringing the Chinese along.

GW better watch his step.

[Gay Green]

124. Iran is where the Russians and the Chinese drew the line in the sand

And everyone knows that Bush & Co. are going to step right over it

[0007]

40. .....and please do your banking outside the U.S. cuz the Russians will

steal your money.

We're in Iraq because the terrorists and junior's friends are in Saudi. Arabia?

[classof56]

2. Worked real well in London, huh?

:eyes:

Tired Old Cynic

[shadowknows69]

5. Just stay on vacation George

we'll just replay the same tape every week for you. it's always the same anyway.

[maddezmom]

11. AP's headline:Bush Begins 5-Day Push to Defend Iraq War

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050820/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_

interesting..he can take 5 days to defend the war...but won't take 5 minutes to meet with Cindy.

[salin]

26. heh - like his series of speeches this Spring to sell the war

which were cancelled after the first one, when the troops didn't applaud except one tepid time, and then due to it being spurred by a wh staffer; or the series of speeches in the spring of 2004, it was to be six speeches - and was cancelled after one - when it was a big thud.

They really ought to stop touting in advance his "big pushes" as they are always cancelled after the first event. Then again why not push it - the media never mentions the cancellations so no harm I guess...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

108. Really

Chimpy's sounding like a broken record. Is this the best Karl Rove can come up with?

[nolabels]

132. Didn't work in the US either, get a load of this picture

http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/54479/index.php

Btw the score cards are still out on Osama

[insane_cratic_gal]

4. So basically

his monkey brain believes that while the terrorist in Iraq (of all places.. that had nothing to do with 9/11) are busy playing footsie with our sons, daughters, husbands, and wives lives.. they can't be in two places at once.
Nice to know that not only does the Gop and Republicans use the military as a Hood Ornament they have no shame in using them as decoys as well.

[Imagevision]

71. Bush Continues war with insufficient US. troop numbers to win it

"We need a strategy to win in Iraq or an exit strategy to leave," former Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia said in the Democratic radio address. "The present course will lead us to disaster. More of the same just means more precious blood spilled in the desert."

Cleland, who noted that he lost three limbs serving in Vietnam, ticked off numbers indicating this war's toll — nearly 2,000 service members killed, more than 15,000 wounded and some soldiers returning for their third tour in Iraq. --> "Iraq is still not secure and we don't have the forces there to make it secure," he said.

The pentagon has hand-picked its own embedded reporters to do the reporting on its perception of what the american people should, and should not know about the Iraq war.

More jounalists have been killed in Iraq war then any other war to date! that's interesting!

[tabasco]

82. Bush is racking up more innocent victims than any terrorists.

Including these boys and girls who were sent to Iraq to find WMD:

[TOhioLiberal]

84. I guess the terra-ists...

...Don't know how to multitask? :shrug: :grr:

[radfringe]

92. hasn't it occured to any of the talking heads...

that 2 1/2 years AFTER invading Iraq that bush* is still trying to justify why we invaded in the first place and is still trying to sell it to the public????

geee - what's wrong with this picture?

[Daphne08]

93. I don't think the war supporters have figured it out yet.

If what * says IS true, then he's also saying that our soldiers are being used as BAIT, and the Iraqi people are simply victims of the collateral damage.

Americans who approve of this should hang their heads in shame!

[u2spirit]

101. Daphne, you're a fucking genius

Best articulation I've heard on this argument.

[Gay Green]

125. Head of Nail, meet Hammer.

Daphne, you ARE a genius!

[hang a left]

6. Unbelievable.

Does anyone really believe this shit anymore. It is awfully worn and tired.

[rodeodance]

9. Repeat after me........(and yes, it does work). --people listen and learn

[4dsc]

18. Yes there are those that believe this shit

And unfortunately, they voted for AWOlbush!! Although I think less and less people believe this crap now!!

[cmd]

41. I'm married to one of the true believers

Send me condolences.

[EST]

86. Oh, my!

My sincerest sympathies. I, too, have been married to a dyed in the wool, death penalty, self styled 'conservative.' Rabid anti-abortionist, lovely, loyal to me-to a fault, compassionate, hard-working, generous mate. One who doesn't want to even hear about the horrid criminals in charge: it gives her headaches and makes her so nervous, she can't sleep.

Last November she voted for Kerry, now understands that the issue in not abortion at all, it's about privacy and self determination. She still gives money and clothing to the anti-A folks and bashes Bush (Gasp---in front of her boss, the bank president.) She understands the damage to the world and humans and deplores the crap they've done and are continuing to do.
She doesn't really understand my committment to bettering the world but she knows I do and that seems to be enough.
With love and clarity it is possible for your mate to see the you in you and that can give them room to get over the fear that keeps them stuck. My best wishes in your quest!

[Copperred]

7. Terror....

“Once a government resorts to terror against its own population to get what it wants, it must keep using terror against its own population to get what it wants. A government that terrorizes its own people can never stop. If such a government ever lets the fear subside and rational thought return to the populace, that government is finished.”

—Michael Rivero

[prolesunited]

55. That quote pretty much sums it up

Thanks for posting

[Solly Mack]

8. Poppycock

The troops know no such thing. I am sick of this nationalistic claptrap being spouted.

[Imagevision]

74. BUSH: just more propaganga to continue this oil war he started

Bush will continue to remind us of 9-11 which had nothing to do with Rejime change-WMD's in Iraq!! Now it's a terrorist haven partly inspired by countless civilian killed and our continued ouccupation of Iraq.

[leftchick]

12. Who writes this shit?

<snip>

Now we must finish the task that our troops have given their lives for and honor their sacrifice by completing their mission. We can be confident in the ultimate triumph of our cause, because we know that freedom is the future of every nation and that the side of freedom is the side of victory.


Better yet, who fucking believes it? :puke:

[maddezmom]

16. probably that guy they hired from the moonie times

:shrug:

[leftchick]

25. Hi there maddezmom!

I see you landed over the pond safely. I hope all is well with you and your family.

:hi:

[Gay Green]

126. It's total shit

because for *, "freedom," "liberty" and "democracy" are merely special rights for corporations.

:puke:

[MaineDem]

13. Bull shit!!! (nt)

[rodeodance]

14. tst tst--no "god bless you", but....Thank you for listening.

yahoo site:
Thank you for listening.

[rodeodance]

Cleland was suspose to do the counter response.

[MaineDem]

34. Cleland's radio address:

For Immediate Release
August 19, 2005


Contact: Dag Vega - 202-863-8148


CLELAND ON IRAQ: "PLAN FOR VICTORY IS NOT WORKING"


Washington, DC - Below is the text of the Democratic Radio Address, as delivered by former U.S. Senator Max Cleland of Georgia.


To listen to the audio clip, use this link: http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/democratic1.download.akamai.com/8082/audio/addresses/20050820_cleland.mp3


Transcript of Radio Address:


"Good morning. I'm former Senator Max Cleland.


"My fellow Americans. My friends. I'm a veteran of the Vietnam War. Having left three limbs on that battlefield, I've seen the toll that war can take on our troops and on our country. We are now engaged in another war- a war in Iraq. However, the Bush Administration's plan for victory is not working.


"There is no strategy to win. The President disregarded the advice of top military brass who said that at least 500,000 troops were needed to secure Iraq. The President committed only one-fifth of that force to the war. Consequently, our military is completely overextended. Many servicemen and women are returning to Iraq for their third tour. The all-volunteer force is suffering-not only in the active force, but also in the Guard and Reserves.


"Iraq is still not secure and we don't have the forces there to make it secure.


"Furthermore, Osama Bin Laden and his terrorist cadre who did attack our country on September 11, 2001 are still on the loose.


"We are running out of time. We need a strategy to win in Iraq or an exit strategy to leave. The present course will lead us to disaster. More of the same just means more precious blood spilled in the desert.


"The war is well into its third year. Early on the President said "Mission Accomplished and major combat over." This judgment was wrong. Major combat is not over. The cost has been extremely bloody for this nation.


"Almost 2,000 servicemen and women are dead. More than 15,000 have been wounded. A quarter of a million American servicemen and women have returned to our country to face an uncertain future. They bring with them the horrors and pain of a war with no end.


"The result of this war has left a multitude of military families looking to their government for help. Yet, the Administration's budget for them is woefully inadequate. At least $3.5 billion dollars more is needed. We should be expanding VA healthcare- especially counseling for veterans and their families dealing with the emotional aftermath of war.


"The toll on the serviceman and women in a war where a distinct majority of the casualties are due to explosive devices is especially devastating.


"The Bush Administration needs to step up the plate. It's time to face the truth. It's time for a strategy to win in Iraq or a strategy to get out.


"I learned in Vietnam that the best way to support out troops is to either give them the forces and equipment needed to win or bring them home so we can care for those who have borne the battle.


"I'm Max Cleland. Thanks for listening."


###


**********


Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, www.democrats.org. This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

[maddezmom]

36. there it is...in black and white

thanks for posting.

[Imagevision]

76. BUSH? No choice but to defend phoney war he brought on us!!

Who lied - who died - who profited!!!

[Skittles]

15. Newsflash for bush, you piece of shit: it's not working anymore

your sad, pathetic attempts to keep connecting Iraq to 9/11 are NO LONGER WORKING.

Lord, this man is DELUSIONAL - does he not know they attacked in London just a few short weeks ago? YOU'RE NOT KEEPING TERROR "OVER THERE" YOU INCOMPETENT ASSHOLE - YOU ARE SPREADING IT THROUGHOUT THE WORLD

[BiggJawn]

17. "Fight 'em there so we-uns don't hafta fight 'em HERE..."

I'm so fucking sick and tired of that bullshit line.

"Finish the Mission"
The "mission" is BULLSHIT! Our young people are dieing so Halliburton and our Iraqi Puppets like Chalabi can line their pockets.

And then the asshole talked about the sacrifice of "The Greatest Generation", and in the next breath talked about the "sacrifice" of The SUV-Go-Shopping Generation.

Sacrifice? "Go Shopping, take an Airline flight someplace. Buy new H-2 or Navigator. Buy a yellow magnet. Buy a vacation. Don't change your lifestyle, because if you DO, the TERRA-ISTS WIN!"

Bullshit.

[rodeodance]

19. "I will meet with some of the brave men and women....."

guess he is going to meet the live ones.



from Yahoo site:
.... During the coming weeks, I will meet with some of the brave men and women who have been on the front lines in the war on terror. Next week in Idaho, I will visit with some of the fine citizen soldiers of the Idaho National Guard. I will also see the men and women of the Mountain Home Air Force Base who played a leading role in the air campaign in Afghanistan after the September the 11th attacks. I will thank all of them for their service in the war on terror and I will thank the families who make their essential work possible.

[maddezmom]

24. odd he can't meet with Cindy...cuz he has to go on with his life, but

he can go on a 5 day tour talking to other families.

He makes me ill :puke:

[54anickel]

97. Ewww, that'll be a hand-picked crowd!...eom

[EST]

67. And what that ignorant chicken brain doesn't get (among all else)

is that every time he spouts that "over there, not here" bullshit, those unhappy people over there get more and more pissed. "How DARE you bring the war you caused into our country, to get us killed instead of yourselves?"

The war is not between these crapheads (Boosh & Co) and the terrorists; it's between us and our criminal government. This war by proxy is the neocon organized crime families against every red-blooded American patriot!

Damn them! How can these bastards keep on with their desperate war on the American people?

They must be stopped, now!

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

20. Ugh!

What this statement really says is that foreign innocent people are less worthy of life than American innocent people.

[Skittles]

28. yes

whenever he says we are taking the war on terror "over there" I think to myself I'm sure the Iraqi children appreciate that

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

21. This argument is so transparent

it would be laughable if not for the fact so many of our fellow Americans believe it.
Using Mr. Bush's logic, terrorists in the US could hit and run, find safe havens to rest and plan their next attack, blend into the general population, have access to arms and munitions unnoticed, operate from Boston to San Diego, from Seattle to Miami, unless we fight a war in Iraq.
Hmmmmmmmmmm........................:shrug:

[salin]

22. Bush shows his contempt for the public, again.

ala I know you are all simpletons, and will buy this simpleton logic - for if I say it, you will believe it.

Forget all of the reports that the threat of terrorism is increasing due to our actions in Iraq. Forget that terrorist activity around the world has spiked. Forget that this rationale was never give when trying to get the congress, the public and (though failed) the UN behind this war.

Oh - and by the way, to stay safe at home - we need more tax cuts for the rich and we need to privatize social security.

[buddysmellgood]

23. Keep it up George. People are tired of this shit. If ever he needed a new

line, it was now. I'm betting this results in another slip in his polling numbers. He's laying the ground for a huge defeat in 06.

[Gay Green]

127. He's laying the ground for a huge defeat in 06.

Or a huge grand election theft larceny. :grr:

[Rose Siding]

27. George really struggles with the concept of cause and effect, doesn't he?

Let's see what a *genuine* expert has to say about how Jr's folly might impact our safety...

"The war in Iraq has broken the back of our counterterrorism effort. I‘m not an expert on the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, but the invasion of Iraq has made sure this war will last decades ahead and it has transferred bin Laden and al Qaeda from being man and an organization into being a philosophy and a movement. We‘ve really made sure that the war against us is going to be a long and very bloody one. Iraq was an absolutely disastrous decision." -Michael Scheuer, former CIA Terrorism Analyst (Hardball, Thursday)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/19.html#a4530

[Tin Man]

69. couldn't have said it better

thanks for the link.

[Imagevision]

79. WHO LIED, WHO DIED,WHO PROFITED...!

[tedzbear]

87. But this war is exactly what the Pentagon wants!

The bloated Pentagon needs a reason to exist, and Bush is parroting their deceptive propaganda like a good little boy.

I am so sick of the Pentagon and its weapons manufacturers. They have taken over this nation and turned it into a single minded war factory.

Just watch! We will have a terrorist bombing in one of our cities withing the next year, in spite of our Iraq occupation. And the Pentagon will use it to excuse even bigger increases in its bloated budget.

[Daphne08]

95. The people should have listened to Eisenhower.

Eisenhower Quote about Military Industrial Complex

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

[earthmama]

29. Bush Begins 5-Day Push to Defend Iraq War

Yahoo News
August 20th, 2005


CRAWFORD, Texas - With anti-war protesters continuing their vigil outside
President Bush's ranch, the commander in chief began a five-day push Saturday to tell Americans why he thinks U.S. troops must continue the fight in Iraq.


In his weekly radio address, Bush argued that the war in Iraq will keep Americans safe for generations to come. He'll try to drive that point home with speeches in upcoming days in Utah and Idaho.

"Our troops know that they're fighting in Iraq,
Afghanistan, and elsewhere to protect their fellow Americans from a savage enemy," the president said in the recorded broadcast.

"They know that if we do not confront these evil men abroad, we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets, and they know that the safety and security of every American is at stake in this war, and they know we will prevail."

Bush is making a sell to a skeptical public. According to recent polls, a majority of Americans do not approve of his handling of the war.

more : http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050820/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

[WCGreen]

30. Utah and Idaho....

Probably the two most conservative states in the Country...

Wonder why he choose those two states to tout his war...

[thebaghwan]

64. Gee! What lies will we hear out of the mouth of Dumbfuck

n/t

[ptolle]

68. everything that issues

Given that the greatest part of what issues from the buccal cavity of the chimperor whatever we hear issuing forth is likely to be a lie. He only tells the truth inadvertently and then his handlers and spinners have to issue statements correcting that and telling everyone what he really meant to say.

[KansDem]

31. It's the same old "same old." Just substitute "communism" with "terrorism"

And you have the same speech given numerous times during the "cold war." Remember how we HAD to have troops in Japan, Germany, England, and elsewhere to stop the spread of communism? We HAD to have the Vietnam War to stop those "heartless, Godless, commie bastards."

Remember these phrases?
If we don't stop them there, we'll be fighting them on Main Street, USA!--sound familiar?

They will end our way of life, our freedom, our "right to choose." (in other words, "They hate us for our freedom!")--sound familiar?

They have no value for human life!--sound familiar?

The are Godless!!! (if assuming the average American believes Allah is not the same as God, then one could argue that Islam is a belief that does not believe in "God.")--sound familiar?

We've heard this all before with Boogieman One. Now we will hear it again with Boogieman Two.

[Kolesar]

32. speeches in Utah and Idaho--retreat to "Hole in the Wall" like a criminal

He cannot outrun the posse that is the truth forever, though.

[Theduckno2]

33. The same sad tune!

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, denounce the pacifists for their lack of patriotism and exposing the the country to greater danger." Hermann Goering

If only all Americans could think of the frightened Iraqi child, awakened in the dark hours of night, in our apparently vain attempt to find the "savage enemy" comprised of those "evil men".:(

[leesa]

39. Yup. And there are STILL Americans who believe this claptrap.

[Gay Green]

128. Problem is, a lot of Americans can't think of that frightened Iraqi child

But they sure can think of frightened Elian Gonzalez, awakened in the dark hours of night, so he could be returned to his dad. And condemn Clinton for it. (Not that I'm excusing the action, mind you - it all could have been handled with a lot more finesse.)

Yet it's NOT a stretch of the imagination by any means from Elian Gonzalez to the frightened Iraqi child. What's keeping those people from considering the latter!? :shrug:

[splat@14]

35. Reminds me of a time when we had to stop communisn in SouthEast

Asia or they would be in California next.

[ConcernedCanuk]

37. "we will have to face them one day in our own cities and streets"

.
.
.

that is probably the sad truth

911 was not a one-shot deal . . .

plans were made then . . .

the terrorists that will attack the USA

are already there . .

waiting.

For a faith that has been challenged for millenniums,

and more recently attacked decades(centuries?)from the West . .

They'll wait another decade or two . .

maybe

[Maggie_May]

38. He thinks we are going to believe

his speech. Bush has produced more terrorist by invading Iraq. We are no safer now that we were before ask them in London.

[jn2375]

42. He's daring the terrorist to strike us, we should be very afraid

they will take him up on his offer.

[durablend]

99. So what target is on Cheney's hit list?

Anything in particular that he'd like to blow up ("to punish the non-believers")?

[barb162]

43. massive disconnect from reality, delusion

[gulliver]

44. U.S. Troops in Saudi Arabia made Bin Laden who he is.

Bush's logic is so bad that it has to be deliberate. He will say anything to save himself.

[Child_Of_Isis]

45. Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here

If that is the game plan why tell everybody? It's not like the terrorists don't have access to the media. And one must wonder how the Iraqi's feel about this. Us using them and their land (and endangering their children lives) to entice terrorists. If any terrorist hears him say this, it'll be like..let's pack it up folks, we are going to the US.

[HuffleClaw]

59. TERRRRRRAAAAAAA ! ! ! !

this is soooooo predictable. and his using 911 for purely political reasons, to justify a WAR is just creepy. though i think he's ALSO prepping the sheeple for some domestic terra. probably scheduled for just BEFORE those expected indictments from that chicago grand jury (which i might add, they've managed to keep REAL quiet eh?) come out.

[alcuno]

46. Bush Begins 5-Day Push to Defend Iraq War

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050820/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

"AP-CRAWFORD, Texas - With anti-war protesters continuing their vigil outside President Bush's ranch, the commander in chief began a five-day push Saturday to tell Americans why he thinks U.S. troops must continue the fight in Iraq.

In his weekly radio address, Bush argued that the war in Iraq will keep Americans safe for generations to come. He'll try to drive the point home with speeches in upcoming days in Utah and Idaho."





So giving a Saturday morning radio address is actually considered a day? Also, I thought he was doing this starting back in June. He made that speech in primetime and that was the big "push." What is wrong with these people? Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent?

[Hotdiggitydog]

47. Well, his 60 Day Social Security push didn't go over very well...

I doubt his little 5 day defense of the indefensible will go any better.

[swag]

48. Yeah, the Great Communicator he ain't.

[6000eliot]

61. It's because he can't give reasons or evidence

to back his arguments. He expects people to accept things just because he says they are true. Only, they've all wised up, and nobody believes him anymore.

[JohnnyBoots]

117. More like the "Great Fabricator"!

[BamaLefty]

49. George, Let The Facts Push The War

Oh yeah, then'd you lose. My bad.

[Mythsaje]

50. In Utah and Idaho...

Notice a pattern here?

C'mon Bush, try it in Seattle, or San Francisco. Whatsamatter, afraid you'll be laughed out of town?


<snicker>

[Maat]

52. Such a good point!

Dubya,come out here to SoCal, and we'll welcome you in San Diego.

Try your pro-war rhetoric out here.

[rateyes]

51. "What is wrong with these people? Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent?"

D. All of the above.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

53. what's he gonna do

when his handlers can't find enough people in UT and ID to come to his pre-arranged photo ops? Will they recycle the same 12 people who delivered the sheets to the pig farm in Crawford? (Note that Bush accespted said sheets from supporters in GA, but wouldn't take a letter from a Gold Star mother.)

[Bob3]

54. Good another round of stilted rallies with a hand picked audience

I can hardly wait :eyes:

Really does this stuff remind anybody of the town meetings that the Russians used to hold during the communist era: "I would like to thank comrade stalin a true man of the people for his visionary leadership and my question is how can I aid you in your glorious struggle?"

[CONN]

57. Bush is protecting the military-industrial complex

[notadmblnd]

131. you're absolutely right

the military industrial complex is the heart and soul of the BFEE (bush family evil empire. It's a beast I fear we'll never be able to kill.

[wakeme2008]

58. What lies will he tell this time

:grr:

[MetaTrope]

85. Don't they mean "putsch"?

[whosinpower]

56. Well - to that I would say

Saddam Hussien was villified for using human shields. The US is currently stating that fighting them over there so we don't have to fight em here. That is using a whole nation as a human shield to shield terror attacks on America - it is beyond despicable.

[stepnw1f]

60. Keep Talkin' Shit...

Meanwhile, the people mobilize against your madness.

[SOS]

62. This moronic reasoning

assumes 100% of all possible terrorists have now moved to Baghdad.
Does it follow that there are now NO potential terrorists in Indonesia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Yemen, London, Madrid etc?
This is so incredibly STUPID.

[killbotfactory]

63. Yes, the native terrorist population here in the US is (was) huge.

What a brilliant move to lure them into the middle east, so that we could fight them in a nation which had nothing to do with this fight. I'm sure the Iraqi's appreciate having their nation turned into a battlefield for no reason, and our troops being terrorist fly-paper. What a brilliant fucking plan. Grade A. Whoever thought of this should get a raise, oh wait they probably already did.

[mainer]

65. The sad part? Some Americans BELIEVE this.

I've had it parroted back at me more than once, usually by some dumb bimbo. "We're fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here."

[killbotfactory]

66. You got to admit it's catchy...

Kinda like "four legs good, two legs bad"

[CatWoman]

70. Bush: Troops in Iraq protect US from terror

"that's my story and I'm sticking to it"

[Imagevision]

72. BUSH: troops in Iraq are protecting the oil pipelines

[CONN]

73. IKE: ..guard against...the military-industrial complex

"...we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Borrowed from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military-industrial_complex

[bleedingheart]

78. Delusional....Absolutely Delusional...

[neohippie]

94. weapons of mass delusion

It ridiculous to think that you can fight terrorism by taking the battleground to some particular geographic location. Terrorism can occur anywhere, at anytime. Because there is a war in Iraq today doesn't cause the terrorists to limit their focus there.

There are plenty of people in the mideast who will take up the cause of expelling infidels from holy lands... meanwhile, there are still terrorist cells traveling around the world. Why wouldn't they continue with any long term plans already in play, just because Bush wants to believe that our nation is an island and can stand alone.

We have to look at the root causes of terrorism and solve the problem by creating policies that don't inflame our enemies, we can't subscribe to the dehumanization of peoples across the globe and the justify turning a country into the front line in a global war on terrorism, and expect the people to welcome us with open arms.

People don't hate our country because of our freedom that is a simple notion, it is the policies that support greed and give more rights to the corporate citizen over human ones. They rob people of their dignity and rights. These policies are the reasons that all over the world, people curse our country and our government. We prop up corrupt leaders, to garner favorable trade and then train them in the school of the americas how to rule with military efficiency.



Besides, in Iraq we can't really trust any of our sources of information. With the all of the heavy handedness and abuse of power that is going and then one ridiculous miscalculated action after another the administration is failing to realize that we are being played by every faction and failing to win the hearts or minds of the Iraqis and actually pushing thousands into the ranks of the terrorists. The whole place is a war zone and completely out of control.

If the terrorists try to bring the battle here, aren't they going to stand out a little more, haven't we been warned that they are determined to strike in our country. If we devoted the money time and resources that we are spending in Iraq for this war to security here at home, wouldn't that be a better way to fight terror?

The troops could be at home, near their families fighting to defend what they love and believe in, in stead of off in a foreign land with no idea who is friend or foe and less likely to get harmed.

You do walk softly and carry a big stick, but you don't take the big stick and start swinging at bees nests and then hornet's nests.

We are bumbling our way into a cultural and religious war beyond by inflaming peoples we just do not understand. It was foolish to think that if everything Bush planned had worked that it would worth the risk of failing because now we have destabilized the middle east.

That was a big gamble, and now we may all have to pay for it dearly. Hopefully we can begin to shift the policy before it results in the gathering of a storm we may not be prepared to weather.

[Roland99]

80. The Terrorist we need protection from is HIM! Fucking ASSHOLE!!

[Deja Q]

81. I fear for the day that the terrorists DO make a comeback here.

Especially when there are far more terrorists now than ever.

Yet I feel less safe about future career prospects than I do regarding conventional terrorists...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

104. They're already here....they work for the NeoCon Junta.

[Gyre]

83. Worst President Ever!

I wish that pretzel would return and finish the job it started.:(

Gyre

[Hissyspit]

88. Put this on the Greatest page.

Some LBN articles need to get there. People who tend to visit the Greatest page need to see the bad stuff, too, not just get the emotionally-moving articles and 'Freepers are idiots' articles. Personally, I think the 5 recommendations requirement is too high; a lot of posts that should be there are the kind for which people don't immediately think to click on Recommend. It's not that I think * should have publicity, it's just that I think he should let him bury himself with his words.

[Hissyspit]

89. AP: Bush Begins 5-Day Push to Defend Iraq War

Yeah, that should work. Five days is about what it will take. My alternate headline: "Bush Begins 5-Day Push to Defend the Indefensible." Think it will go as well as the Social Security "reform" push?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050820/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=Au.gf2MxIJgekAgPlq2Hlces0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

Bush Begins 5-Day Push to Defend Iraq War
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

- snip -

The protesters at "Camp Casey" can claim some victory for forcing Bush to talk so extensively about the military deaths when he'd rather focus on indictors of progress in Iraq. The campers' call to bring the troops home now dominated news coverage out of Crawford this week while Bush stayed on his ranch with no public events.

Next week, the president will regain some of the spotlight with scheduled speeches to the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Monday and a National Guard group on Wednesday. As he has before when he has been challenged, Bush invoked the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in his radio address.

MORE

[The_Casual_Observer]

91. So this is the escape route from crawford?

A nice 5 day swing through the red states. Dirty bastard is finished.

[pfitz59]

90. Biggest 'savage enemy' we face are NEOCON Fascists!

Don't the sheeple realize we are in the throes of a new Civil War? The BFEE will NEVER willingly give up the hammer-lock they have on our nation and the world economy!

[sakabatou]

96. My the rorld stop spinning

My head hurts from all of these lies.

[antonialee839]

98. Thanks President Stupid. Thanks for starting wars

in other countries so terrorists flock there and kill those innocent people instead of us. I just have to wonder what happened to his "we're bringing freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people". I guess the joke is on them. Yes President Stupid, they hate us for our freedoms.

[SOS]

102. "They hate us for our freedoms"

Another bit of illogical Bushco nonsense.

If the US turns into a reactionary police state, with no change in foreign policy, the terrorists will like us?

:shrug:

[Gay Green]

129. Actually they hate us for our special rights for corporations

and that is EXACTLY what the Shrub means when he says "They hate us fer our freedoms"

[MODemocrat]

100. Mr. Bush, please explain how this theory works

Mr. President, you sound like a babble-head. Please give us a little more credit than that. We're not five year olds. Quit using your scare tactics to further YOUR bloody war. We're growing real weary of you and your induendo.:+ :+ :hangover: My concern is not about you and your low ratings, it is about the maiming and killing of our troops and all the civilians. :cry: :cry:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

103. He's not only a moron, he's a lying moron.

[Bo]

105. Just go get drunk ya stupid shrub

[VegasWolf]

106. "The sky is falling!" screeched Chickenhawk Little. nt

[tavalon]

107. We're recycling that one again!

Geez, dude, get new writers!

[novak goes postal]

109. Well ! protect us by protecting our troops from YOU....Protect away cowboy

[ignatius 2]

110. Ha,if that were true he would pull the troops out immediately,

because he loves Americans to be 'ascared of terror. It is the very heart of his pResidency,Americans scared so shitless that they ignore the terror he and his neocon psychos inflict on the entire world in the name of protection.

Keep 'em scared and they will beg us for protection..that is his motto.

[Roland99]

111. Interesting. We’re combatting terrorists in Iraq are we?

Well, I don’t think that point is debatable because we are NOW. But, before the asshat-in-chief launched his illegal invasion, there WERE NO terrorists in Iraq. I guess this is the Propagandist’s way of creating job security for his buddies in the military-industrial complex.

Can someone please explain to me how this former cocaine-sniffing, alcoholic frat boy has not yet been impeached and tried for war crimes???

[yojon]

113. If he sticks his head far enough up his ass

does that mean he will disappear?? -poit- ?

[struggle4progress]

115. No. But he'll be able to say he sees the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Greylyn58]

114. Well if that's the case Mr. pResident

then you need to bring our troops home right away because you are Terrorizing the Hell out of the American public and we need their support and protection right now.

I mean, why go looking to confront evil men abroad? We have plenty running this country right now and our safety and security is definitely at stake.

[Why Syzygy]

116. A savage enemy

created by GWB. He gives them a stage there. How 'noble'.

Guess what mofo ... taking our children over there is like bringing our cities to them. If we have to fight a savage enemy, bring it on and do it RIGHT ! He is such an asshole.

[opihimoimoi]

118. This is a man who had no previous experience in foreign policy

and whose decisions to date have all been wrong...and he still is out there telling us to BELIEVE HIM? Why on Earth should we? Its all been wrong, one after another has been wrong....

This is a man built on BS, they sold the sheep on him and it all is coming apart.

There is NO SAVING the dude. He has sunk the Pub Party and all of his minions....

The Rookie Prez turns out to be PYSCHO.....

[Placebo]

119. That tired line just doesn't seem to go away does it?

Iraq = Afghanistan
Saddam = Osama
9/11 = Pearl Harbor
War = Peace
Slavery = Freedom

[novak goes postal]

120. Come'on Rush get off your fat sist and join up ! Uncle Sam Needs YOU !

[IndianaGreen]

121. People like Bush are normally confined to mental institutions

by court order so that they cannot harm themselves or others.

[Fire Walk With Me]

122. Damn, I love government comedy.

[Rex]

123. Bush can dish out terror, he just can't take it.

nt

[bribri16]

130. We're fighting them there so they can kill us there. n/t

[kestrel91316]

133. So if we pull troops out of Iraq, the terrorists WILL attack us in the US?

Well I am quite sure * can arrange for that to happen. Piece of cake.

(tin foil hat finds its way onto my head once again)