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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:03 PM
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Sunnis Complain of Being Cut Out of Talks
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On Saturday, it appeared that only Kurds and Shiites were negotiating. Sunni Arabs were not present at the deliberations and al-Mutlaq said "things are not good."

Another principal Sunni negotiator, Ayad al-Samarai, said Sunnis agreed with the Kurds and Shiites on some unspecified points.

He added: "Concerning federalism, we are still holding to our position, which is that it be postponed until after the general elections, and we refused to accept it in the constitution at this time."

Al-Samarai said the Sunnis accepted the existence of the Kurdish self-ruled region, established in 1991, but did not want the system duplicated elsewhere as long as U.S. and other foreign troops remain in Iraq.

Al-Mutlaq alleged that the Americans, Shiites and Kurds were cutting deals and "we have no idea what is going on." He complained that Sunni negotiators were being sidelined "after we convinced the (Sunni) people to take part in the political process through mosque preachers, who used to condemn such participation."


Jesus Christ, this administration is so fucking evil.

They don't care if Iraq fails, so long as it fails once we're gone. It's all about perception with them

Baudrillard was right. Absolutely right.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:51 PM
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1. Three top Sunnis were murdered today
all supporters of the process.

Rumors suggest that Shia police (trained by the US) took them out. They wore ski masks, when they kidnapped the three, took them into an alley, had a huge crowd protect them while they put a bullet in the heads, then escaped.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:00 PM
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2. The Insurgency is not the only problem that..
the Bush Regime has in Iraq. The three factions are another
problem. Some people just cannot be bought off. When will al
Sistani get sick and tired of the U.S. Occupation and Colonial
Imperialism? When he does Iraq will implode and Iran will step in.

The Bush Regime Pipedream aided by the Multi-Natls and the Amerikan Corp
Media will get some shock and awe soon.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:44 AM
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6. very true. but Iran is already stepping in, and avoiding our crap
They are cutting deals to rebuild. We give $$ to haliburton.
They are starting treaty negotiations. We give $$ to haliburton.
They are funding and arming anti-Sunni and anti-Turk Kurds. We give $$ to haliburton
They are making arrangements with the very people that toss our hand-picked mayor and other leaders, and we shoot Iraqi generals by accident.

Oh, did I mention that we also give $$ to haliburton?

It is a shame that our MSM has no clue of how bad it really is and how our leaders have made it worse.
Bremer was a complete and total disaster. Neocon light, without the substance. When Condi was assigned to supervise the whole rebuilding it only got worse. I read someplace that she took advice from Feith, Cheney and the Israelis. I have not been able to confirm it. But notice how the Administration has conveniently ignored her roll in the Iraqi flame out.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:31 AM
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3. Sunnis Say They've Been Left Out of Talks
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago



BAGHDAD, Iraq - Sunni Arabs complained Saturday they were being sidelined in talks on the new constitution only two days before the deadline and warned that their community will reject the document if it is submitted to parliament without Sunni consent.

"They will surprise us in the final hour," Saleh al-Mutlaq, one of four main Sunni negotiators, told The Associated Press. "We will reject it and the people will be angry, the street will be angry and as a result we will be back to square one."

But a Shiite politician, Khaled al-Attiyah, was upbeat and said the negotiations were in the final stage. He said the Shiites submitted a new proposal on the distribution of Iraq's oil wealth, one of the remaining obstacles to a deal by the Monday night deadline.

Sunni Arabs also object to demands by Kurds and the largest Shiite party for a federal state, and oppose a major role for Shiite clergy in Najaf.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050821/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:31 AM
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4. This coming out as US lets "Islam rule" the new constitution
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 03:04 AM by jsamuel
one Islam over another Islam...

doesn't sound good at all...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:31 AM
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5. The women in Iraq-Nam
Aren't jumping for joy
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