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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:40 PM
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Militias Wresting Control Across Iraq's North and South
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Since the formation of a government this spring, Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, has witnessed dozens of assassinations, claiming members of the former ruling Baath Party, Sunni political leaders and officials of competing Shiite parties. Many have been carried out by uniformed men in police vehicles, according to political leaders and families of the victims, with some of the bullet-riddled bodies dumped at night in a trash-strewn parcel known as The Lot. The province's governor said in an interview that Shiite militias have penetrated the police force; an Iraqi official estimated that as many as 90 percent of officers were loyal to religious parties.

Across northern Iraq, Kurdish parties have employed a previously undisclosed network of at least five detention facilities to incarcerate hundreds of Sunni Arabs, Turkmens and other minorities abducted and secretly transferred from Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city, and from territories stretching to the Iranian border, according to political leaders and detainees' families. Nominally under the authority of the U.S.-backed Iraqi army, the militias have beaten up and threatened government officials and political leaders deemed to be working against Kurdish interests; one bloodied official was paraded through a town in a pickup truck, witnesses said.

"I don't see any difference between Saddam and the way the Kurds are running things here," said Nahrain Toma, who heads a human rights organization, Betnahrain, with offices in northern Iraq and has faced several death threats.

Toma said the tactics were eroding what remained of U.S. credibility as the militias operate under what many Iraqis view as the blessing of American and British forces. "Nobody wants anything to do with the Americans anymore," she said. "Why? Because they gave the power to the Kurds and to the Shiites. No one else has any rights."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/20/AR2005082000940.html
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:48 PM
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1. Uhhhhhhh, by "george" they are killing "their own people". Good
job you morons.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:58 PM
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4. I think I heard on Al Franken the other night
that Paul Wolfowitz stated before the war that he wasn't aware of any ethnic or religious animosities within Iraq. Could that possibly be true? Could they truly have been so uninformed, or were they (more likely) just trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:59 PM
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5. He is utterly full of sh*t. After awhile, they begin to believe their own
bs.... and that is that.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:51 PM
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2. Militias Wresting Control Across Iraq No. and So.: Growing Climate of Fear
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 07:46 PM by DeepModem Mom
Washington Post:
Militias Wresting Control Across Iraq's North and South
Residents Tell of Growing Climate of Fear

Anthony Shadidand and Steve Fainaru
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, August 20, 2005


BASRA, Iraq -- Shiite and Kurdish militias, often operating as part of Iraqi government security forces, have carried out a wave of abductions, assassinations and other acts of intimidation, consolidating their control over territory across northern and southern Iraq and deepening the country's divide along ethnic and sectarian lines, according to political leaders, families of the victims, human rights activists and Iraqi officials.

While Iraqi representatives wrangle over the drafting of a constitution in Baghdad, forces represented by the militias and the Shiite and Kurdish parties that control them are creating their own institutions of authority, unaccountable to elected governments, the activists and officials said. In Basra in the south, dominated by the Shiites, and Mosul in the north, ruled by the Kurds, as well as cities and villages around them, many residents say they are powerless before the growing sway of the militias, which instill a climate of fear that many see as redolent of the era of former president Saddam Hussein.

The parties and their armed wings are sometimes operating independently, and other times as part of Iraqi army and police units trained and equipped by the United States and Britain and controlled by the central government. Their growing authority has enabled them to seize territory, confront their perceived enemies and provide patronage to their followers. Their rise has come because of a power vacuum in Baghdad and their own success in the January elections.

Since the formation of a government this spring, Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, has witnessed dozens of assassinations, claiming members of the former ruling Baath Party, Sunni political leaders and officials of competing Shiite parties. Many have been carried out by uniformed men in police vehicles, according to political leaders and families of the victims, with some of the bullet-riddled bodies dumped at night in a trash-strewn parcel known as The Lot. The province's governor said in an interview that Shiite militias have penetrated the police force; an Iraqi official estimated that as many as 90 percent of officers were loyal to religious parties.

Across northern Iraq, Kurdish parties have employed a previously undisclosed network of at least five detention facilities to incarcerate hundreds of Sunni Arabs, Turkmens and other minorities abducted and secretly transferred from Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city, and from territories stretching to the Iranian border, according to political leaders and detainees' families. Nominally under the authority of the U.S.-backed Iraqi army, the militias have beaten up and threatened government officials and political leaders deemed to be working against Kurdish interests....(Nahrain Toma, who heads a human rights organization) said the tactics were eroding what remained of U.S. credibility as the militias operate under what many Iraqis view as the blessing of American and British forces. "Nobody wants anything to do with the Americans anymore," she said. "Why? Because they gave the power to the Kurds and to the Shiites. No one else has any rights."...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/20/AR2005082000940.html
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:51 PM
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3. Mission unaccomplished... I feel so sorry for our soldiers, led by
fools, with their hearts in it, believing they were on the right track, now look where things are headed.... south.
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:19 PM
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6. Civil War is inevitable if this is true...
...and Civil Wars are the most uncivil of all wars.

Anarchy anyone???:shrug:
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:34 PM
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7. Freedumb is on the march !!!
I hate to say it, but it takes a despot like Sadam Hussein to hold a place like Iraq together. Bush and his Neo-cabal are fools...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:23 PM
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8. According to an article I found months ago, Iran basically
is running the towns in the Basra area. Shiites with Iranian ties.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:01 AM
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9. the civil war started over a year ago--bush just forgets to tell us.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:02 PM
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10. This wasn't the case with the former "regime".
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:04 PM
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11. Important article
keeping it kicked
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:15 PM
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12. This poor boys family was slaughtered last night
Look how they are trying to twist it like it could not actually have been the Iraqi security forces...

:(



Ali Nasir Jabur, 10, sits on the back of a truck loaded with the bodies of his family members, outside Tikrit hospital, north of Baghdad, Sunday, Aug. 21, 2005. Ali's parents, two brothers and sister were killed when unknown gunmen wearing Iraqi security forces uniforms raided their home the previous night, while he was hidden under a blanket. Person inspecting the bodies is a hospital worker. (AP Photo/Bassim Daham)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:10 PM
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13. It sounds like a civil war
The U.S. military kick started it, and now they will be smack dab in the middle of it. Not a nice place to be, but maybe it is karma.
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