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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:39 PM
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Feds: Terrorists may pose as homeless for surveillance
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/breaking_news/story/339525p-289958c.html

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


WASHINGTON — Asking for increased vigilance in the wake of the London bombings, the government is warning that terrorists may pose as vagrants to conduct surveillance of buildings and mass transit stations to plot future attacks.

“In light of the recent bombings in London, it is crucial that police, fire and emergency medical personnel take notice of their surroundings, and be aware of ’vagrants’ who seem out of place or unfamiliar,” said the message, distributed via e-mail to some federal employees in Washington by the U.S. Attorney’s office.

It is based on a State Department report that was issued last week. The State Department had no immediate comment Monday.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:40 PM
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1. they got this idea from LTTE writers
cLaiming that homeLess couLd be terrorists, so we need to rid the streets of them...

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:41 PM
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2. Now we'll go after the homeless and the destitute...
ready reasons for a clean sweep of the downtown areas.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:52 PM
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65. "Terrorists" are today's version of "communists"
which can easily be used as an excuse by the govenment to destroy our civil liberties. Grrr. :mad:
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:41 PM
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3. Any one of those homless people with digital cameras could be a terrist!
:wow:
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:41 PM
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4. OMFG. Encouraging attacks on homeless now?
That's one way to get them out of sight.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:58 PM
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12. Yup. All the "boogeymen" that the right-wing detest are combined.
The politics of fear is boundless ... a cancer on a society.
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:38 PM
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50. And just last week "Kenny Boy" Mehlman said Democrats use fear!
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 08:39 PM by Autobot77
Its not worth saying again since its a given: Republicans suffer from projection.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:18 PM
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54. Indeed. While it's said some people live in glass houses ...
... I'd say the neocons live in mirrored closets. They can only see the reflection of their own corruption.
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:30 PM
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59. They are ashamed of thier corruption and lies...

They have to rationalize it and put those negative traits on Democrats.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:45 PM
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5. Great News!
More impetus to help get the homeless off the street. Give them homes and only terrorists will be homeless.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:46 PM
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6. So now we all should be on the lookout for (and terrified of)...
...vagrants who seem "out of place"?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

As opposed to WHAT, exactly?
Isn't "being out of place" kinda a prerequisite for "VAGRANCY"?
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sdfernando Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:48 PM
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7. WTF???
This is just plain stupid! Terrorists can pose as any damn thing they want to. Hell, they can even pose as law enforcement officers. Realistic looking uniforms can be bought all over the place.

So what do you do??? Round up all the homeless people and send them to them to a camp "for you own protection" ???? Sounds familiar, where have I heard stuff like this before...seem like it might have been 1930s europe somewhere.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:51 PM
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8. takes "the bumfights" to
a whole new level...bash a bum,plant a camera,and become a hero!!!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:53 PM
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9. Wow...you just cannot make this shit up.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:54 PM
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10. Look out for "Will bom for money signs!" nt
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 01:57 PM
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11. Next up- Feds: Terrorists may pose as mothers of deceased soldiers
then it's "Feds: Terrorists may pose as liberals

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:14 PM
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17. "terrorists may pose as homosexuals"
(but I bet they will pose poorly)
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:03 PM
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66. Don't forget the eldery!
"When they try to use the drug discount card, CUFF EM!"
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:01 PM
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13. I saw one of those cardboard signs today
it said:

I need information about the nearby nuclear power plant. Every little bit helps. God Bless!
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:12 PM
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15. Now, stop that!
I start laughing like a maniac here at my desk, and people wonder what I'm up to!

Besides, everyone already knows that the nuclear wessels are in Alameda.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:16 PM
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18. "nuclear wessels" LOL
I met Chekhov (Walter Koenig) very briefly a year or so ago. He's a neighbor of some friends.

Nice man. weird experience.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #13
44. Oh damn that is funny!
:rofl:
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:58 PM
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45. FINALLY! LBJ gets his war on poverty.
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Secular Agent Man Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:07 PM
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14. Eric Rudolph was a homeless/vagrant terrorist...
I hope the authorities keep that in mind when they're out "profiling" vagrants. ;)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:13 PM
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16. I think the FBI should pay close attention to Dentist
No telling the havoc a dentist could create for this country.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:55 PM
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43. Absolutely! Remember the line from The Marathon Man?
Dentists freak me out! Is it safe? :scared: To this day I have to get "happy gas" (NO2) every time I set in a dental chair. Not because of this movie, but it sure brings out the worst in such a phobia.

Yikes!
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:18 PM
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19. While we're at it, lets put kids selling candy, Jehovah's Witnesses and
ice creme truck venders on the list.
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Cult Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:34 PM
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20. I heard terrorists might also disguise themselves as ravers,
homosexuals, and liberals. We have to monitor them all.

Blah.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:52 PM
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26. Nothing more suspicious than a liberal, homeless, homosexual candy selling
raver praising Jehovah.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:35 PM
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21. Ummm - don't undercover cops pose as vagrants for surveillance purposes?
.
.
.

Homeland Security be puttin' them away for having 2 way radios/cameras etc.

Lawdy help em if they have a pistol strapped to their ankle -

they shoot people for less, don't they (at least in London anyhoo - -)

DEFINITE proof of "terrarist" activity - no??

Cops should be havin' a fit over this new "strategy"

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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:36 PM
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22. I'll bet they mostly pose as tourists.
"Tourist" doesn't sound much different than "terrorist," does it?

"So, what's your business here in London, sir?"

"I'm a terrorist."

"A tourist, you say? Good, good, carry on..."

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Tyranny_R_US Donating Member (988 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:29 PM
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34. "I'm a tourist."
*bang* *bang* *bang* *bang* *miss* *bang*...(pause) *bang* *bang*
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:08 PM
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38. I think'll they'll drive SUVs with "Liberal Hunting License" stickers.
They'll want to blend in with the other wackos as much as possible ...
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:36 PM
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23. Oh great - it's now open season on the homeless!
And I was wondering how low these thugs could go.

I guess shooting innocent people at will because they're not lilly white wasn't enough for the pigs - and yes, they are PIGS!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:39 PM
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24. They might pose as politicians.
They might actually be politicians.

You might be living in a police state if-
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:49 PM
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25. The article says we've already had a similar obnoxious warning!
The warning is similar to one issued by the FBI before July 4, 2004 that said terrorists may attempt surveillance disguised as homeless people, shoe shiners, street vendors or street sweepers.
....And they accuse lib'ruls of class warfare. Not too obvious, are they?

Why wouldn't terrorists disguise themselves as politicians, steal elections, and terrorize the entire planet through a death-grip on the U.S. military, while holding an entire population and its wealth hostage?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:55 PM
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27. "vagrants that seem out of place or unfamiliar"????
Okay.. that's just wierd. I think that's codespeak for Middle Eastern homeless people, cuz since when do we all keep tabs on which "vagrants" belong where. That is just unbelievably ridiculous... ooh.. could be posing as homeless! ooh.. could be posing as tourists... Basically, be afraid of people who don't look like you?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:31 PM
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28. Feds: Terrorists may use common sense.
In case any Americans were stupid enough to think that terrorists would wear brightly colored team jackets saying 'Al Queda' on them...
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:43 PM
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29. no crap
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 03:47 PM by Rich Hunt
I know of a rich stalker who used homeless guys to spy on his target. Why not - they need the cash. Some junkies are more than willing to sell a bit of "information" for some cash.

It's not a joke. That doesn't mean they're all bad - just watch out for the grouchy manipulative ones. You live in a big city long enough, you know that being homeless doesn't make one a saint. Even the homeless know that.

These people do have brains - they will use people from all walks of life if it can provide access to the information they want.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:46 PM
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30. These guy's are completely out of ideas..
:rofl:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:50 PM
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31. welcome to Nazi Germany
let's give the homeless a...oh I don't know, a green star.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:52 PM
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41. You took the words out of my mouth. I guess they'll have to round 'em...
...up pretty soon to keep our streets safe of "terra-ists".

Oh, and then Bush can also claim that he took care of the homeless problem in America...
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:23 PM
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32. This is really sick!
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:29 PM
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33. Sheesh....
:puke:
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Im_Your_Huckleberry Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:44 PM
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35. hey, aqualung.....
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:51 PM
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36. That guy with no legs always looked like a terrorist to me
Next time I see that homeless threat to national security I'll turn him in to the National Security Service!
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:10 PM
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67. Will they set up a national hotline?
1-800-LOK-EM-UP?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:06 PM
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37. Ooooh! Vagrants and winos and whores to Guantanamo!
All true patriots support the efforts of the Department of Fatherland Security to purify our nation!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:36 PM
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39. better shoot them in the head
can't take any chances.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:43 PM
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40. great now the Homeless will be scorned
my head hurts

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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 07:52 PM
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42. OMG, soon it will be open season on the poor and homeless! Facism has
come to America in the form of protecting the homeland.

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:00 PM
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46. New meaning to "The war on poverty"...eom
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:22 PM
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47. Terrorists: Feds may pose as homeless for surveillance.
Well, duh. Terrorists may also pose as bankers, used car salespersons, and US Presidents and PNAC members.
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:37 PM
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48. This is bullshit

This is just like the "Terrorist using pens and remote controlled airplanes" that were featured in F 9/11.
Whats next? Terrorist posing as prostitutes? Crack dealers?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:38 PM
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51. my favorite was the floating ice chest bombs. Karl must have been loaded
when he came up with that.

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:




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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:37 PM
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49. they have a roulette wheel with dumbass ideas for terror alerts
"Terrorist may have replaced suppositories with tiny bombs."

"Terrorists may pose as Freddy Prinze Jr. in a teen romance movie and jump out of your VCR at you."

"Terrorists may emerge from your womb and pose as your children. Approach with extreme caution."

"Terrorists may attack right as Karl Rove is about to be indicted, and so we have an excuse to invade Iran."

"Terrorist may hide your car keys to delay your departure for work."

"Terrorists may pose as extra-terrestrials since they share many letters in common"

and so on.

Hillbilly Hitler art:



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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:42 PM
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52. Feds: Republicans posing as the mentally challenged

Unfortunetly they got too good at it.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 08:44 PM
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53. I gave some homeless dude $5.00 in front of the Orpheum...
Theatre before. He needed it to further his surveillance in downtown SF. Maybe I should tell Asscroft or whatever the new clown's name is.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:50 PM
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64. they split Prune-face Jonny's duties: you report to Chertoff at HS, then
AG Gonzales gets out the meat-hooks.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:25 PM
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55. Better round those homeless up!
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:45 PM
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56. Next they'll come after people in low-income housing.
This is Bush's AmeriKKKa.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 09:49 PM
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57. Yeah, I want to see that,,,
Homeland Security living with the homeless. They ought to really blend in well. Hey Joe here's a burger I got out of the garbage, I'll share with you, don't think it was there more than a few hours. Hey Joe here is a newspaper you can sleep under, want a hit offun my Night Train?
:rofl: :rofl: :popcorn: :popcorn: :headbang:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:38 PM
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63. LAAHAAHAHAHA!!!
:rofl:
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 11:24 PM
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58. Bush = Prison Construction, Camps, Security, Crematoriums
This is the industry Bush knows best. All of his friends have been able to make money abroad and in Defense...but Bush wont be making his bucks until he can make money on 'mass control'.

So...people who dont know this, better wake up. Its pissing me off how damn stupid we Americans are.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:30 PM
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62. and he intends to use them n/t
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:39 PM
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60. Feds: Terrorists may pose as Jews, Gypsies, or Trade Unionists n/t
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 06:39 PM by NNN0LHI
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:31 PM
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61. I can see where this is going
"Everyone who is not a Radicial Right Wing White Male Anglo Saxon Protestant Straight man in an SUV may be posing as a terrorist.

The word "terrorist" is being disempowered. Americans are jaded to it. Terrorist Terrorist Terrorist. Everyone is a terrorist or a terrorist enabler or a terrorising hater of America's freedom or something. They will have to come up with a new word.
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