Venezuela slams Robertson over remarks (studying its legal options)

[sabra]

http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/story/2654216p-11160100c.html

Venezuela slams Robertson over remarks

The Associated Press

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuela's vice president accused religious broadcaster Pat Robertson on Tuesday of making "terrorist statements" by suggesting that American agents assassinate President Hugo Chavez.
Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel said Venezuela was studying its legal options, adding that how Washington responds to Robertson's comments would put its anti-terrorism policy to the test.

"The ball is in the U.S. court, after this criminal statement by a citizen of that country," Rangel told reporters. "It's huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of that country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those."

[getmeouttahere]

1. Kick Ass, Venezuela!

Chavez rocks!

www.handsoffvenezuela.org

Throw that hypocricy right back in their POS faces!

[BR_Parkway]

2. Calling the Radical Cleric Robertson a terrorist! Love it!

[Ganja Ninja]

14. Radical Cleric Pat Robertson

I like that. His name should always be prefaced that way.

[bribri16]

29. They should call for putting the US on the list of "terrorist nations"

I hope they pursue all legal avenues. Bush invaded Iraq to avenge a plot to kill his dad so this leaves plenty of room for Chavez to act.
But deep down inside I know Chavez is above the US low-life.

[TexasLawyer]

38. A fatwa by any other name would smell as rancid...

as Pat Robertson's rotting soul. The man IS a radical cleric. I'm just glad that Chavez is a few thousand miles away from Robertson's robotic followers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa

[ashling]

77. GITMO

put that terrorist away NOW! I'm sure Pat would enjoy the good food and tropical breezes (as long as they don't pee on his bible.)
:rofl:

[redqueen]

3. Well said.

I doubt it'll matter... they've been trying to oust him since at least 2002.

[Judi Lynn]

16. April, 2002! There was a DU'er in Venezuela at the very same time.

He kept in frequent touch with D.U. throughout the entire ordeal, which was absolutely spell-binding.

What a vile event: US right-wing idiot President's financing yet another attempted overthrow. It worked in Chile, to the great wicked destruction of so many, many thousands of lives. It failed this time, thank God.



Scum of the earth.

[LetsGoMurphys]

24. that picture almost forced me to put a fist through my monitor

[Binka]

49. I Had The Same Reaction

I want so badly to beat one of these old hags with a goddamn shoe. Hard. And I am a very peaceful gal but that just caused a visceral reaction in me. She is so fucking ugly all the way round. Demon Crone. Fuck you you nasty slag of flesh.

[genieroze]

31. WTF is that a pic of? Some ugly right wing old hag who wasn't wearing a

big enough band-aid to cover her farce, I mean face?

[Judi Lynn]

36. Remember the Republican National Convention last year?

They handed out these dandy little band-aids with purple hearts on them to the delegates, as a way of mocking John Kerry's Purple Heart he received in Viet Nam.

It was their way of claiming anyone could get a Purple Heart, and that he didn't really deserve it as he wasn't shot up well enough, in a life-threatening way, in their view.

Really shabby, sub-normal behavior, once more from the Republicans.

[genieroze]

37. Oh, forgot about that childish crap but the band-aid was still too small.

[barb162]

72. no I don't remember that but then I didn't watch the GOP convention

either

[donheld]

60. I wanna wipe that smile

off her face! And i'm usually such a peaceful man.

[TankLV]

74. What was even more vile were the DU scum who actually supported the coup!

Some of them are still around.

[TheDebbieDee]

4. This is an excellent action taken by the Venezuelan gov't......

Not one American'ss first amendment rights extends to making verbal threats against the leader of a foreign power.

It would do my heart good to see Pat Robertson brough up on charges of any kind. It's time that American religious leaders were put in their earthly place!

[saigon68]

5. He's just a Fundy Right Wing Nut-Job

Out to FLEECE the SHEEP in his flock.

[BlueEyedSon]

7. Maybe before.... but now, he's a terrorist!

[Maraya1969]

23. In a very real sense that man is a terrorist. Remember his audience

is comprised of people who have bombed abortion clinics and killed doctors and workers in the name of Jesus. If that is not radical religion I don't know what is.

They are a scary group.

[DBoon]

40. excuse me, "women's health clinics"

women patronize these medical servies for many reasons aside from pregnancy termination. These clinincs actually help women who want a child to go through a safe preganancy.

[TheModernTerrorist]

53. and men too...

I had to take a friend in for an abortion once, and as pro-choice as I am, I still found it troubling. They talked to me a bit, and helped to calm my nerves. So don't forget, they are really there for anyone who needs them :-)

[TankLV]

75. You are so right. My mom used to go to the one in Amherst NY north of

Buffalo, where that doctor was murdered. And she was in her 70's.

Hardly an "abortion" seeker!

[Maraya1969]

86. Oh sorry - And when I was in college I went to one and got birth control

These places PREVENT unwanted pregnancies also. I also think you can just walk in and they will give you condoms - no charge.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

57. And of people

Who as we speak are behind the murders of hundreds of thousands of civilians in the Middle East.

But no, this isn't another Crusade. :sarcasm:

[truthisfreedom]

6. far-right religious terrorists like robertson should be shipped to gitmo.

maybe they could learn a little something about the American way down there.

[Pachamama]

8. I wonder if there is some law in the US Legal System or Int'l World Court

that an open threat or suggestion of assasination against a World Leader can be tried somehow?

I think that the whole world should be able to see what the Christian Taliban in America and one of its "moral" leaders is saying - that he on national television called for a "Fatwa" against an elected leader of a country....

[Maraya1969]

26. "Terroristic Threat" is a real law. That is why people get arrested

for phoning in fake bomb threats.

The man needs to be arrested. What group is going to have the courage to do it? And since it isn't a local thing wouldn't the FBI be the ones who have to arrest him?

[Southpaw Bookworm]

58. Someone mentioned earlier

That the hate radio hosts in Rwanda who helped spur the genocides there were charged with war crimes.

[Cha]

63. Tis true, I heard and saw it in "Hotel Rwanda".

It needs to be nipped in the bud that's gotten outta control.

[Pachamama]

82. Good! Then add Rush, Melanie Morgan, Hannity and Bill O'leilly et al

to that growing list with Pat Robertson and when we finally wake up from our nightmare in America, that they all be tried for war crimes against the country!

[wicket]

9. GOOD!

His remarks were despicable. :grr:

[Bluerthanblue]

10. we are only a nation that obeys the 'rule' of law when it's

to our advantage.
Otherwise, we consider ourselves 'above' the law.

I'm ashamed once again of what is being passed off as "America".

PLEASE world- prove me wrong!!

[TahitiNut]

21. Yep. Law enforcement when convenient is the hallmark of a police state.

Our legislatures are producing laws at breakneck pace, including all manner of victimless crimes, crimes of "intention," and crimes of "affiliation." At the same time, the entitled are "deregulated." A government of entitlement, but not rights, is NOT a democracy; it's a fascist police state.

[mconvente]

11. From Venezuela's VP Rangel

Rangel called Robertson "a man who seems to have quite a bit of influence in that country," adding sarcastically that his words were "very Christian."

The comments "reveal that religious fundamentalism is one of the great problems facing humanity in these times," Rangel said.

Amen to that.

[sarcasmo]

17. I too agree, lately this seems to be the Christian Armies way.

[Karla Marx]

61. Pat Robertson is no better than Osama...

...with remarks like that. I'm glad Venezuela ain't taking his shit.

[Cha]

67. That's what I told my friend

earlier before I got on DU today. Exactly who I compared robertson to.

[Cha]

64. I hope Jose Vincente Rangel

knows the "influence" that robertson has is with the nut cases only! Granted there are quite a few in the good 'ol USA.

This is a very astute comment that Rangel has made.."The comments "reveal that religious fundamentalism is one of the great problems facing humanity in these times," Rangel said."

Hallelujah and pass the ammo!

[Old and In the Way]

12. That's exactly what he is. A terrorist who advocates assassinating

a democratically elected head of state. The only purpose being to get their natural resources by installing a pro-Bush puppet.

I'll never mention his name without the proper descriptor before it-
"terrorist Pat Robertson".

[Cha]

65. Terrorist pat robertson and

Bad Fruit..

"At that time Jesus said to the disciples, 'Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but unwardly are revenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them. Do men gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore, by their fruits you wil know them.'" Matt 7:16-21"

[asjr]

13. A decent American president would call upon

the Radical Rev. Robertson to issue a written apology and a vocal apology to Chavez and the Admerican people. No, a decent president would order it. We have fallen so far since election 2000 if the earth was flat we would already have fallen off into space. My sister returned from visiting friends in London and she told me everyone she spoke with absolutely hates Shrub. Mostly they wonder when U.S. citizens will start fighting back.

[Cha]

66. Supposedly it was the fundies who

threw bush over the top..3 0r 4 million votes coming out of nowhere.

We have a chimp in the white house who can't tell his masters to apologize.

[Jon8503]

15. My comments on an earlier post of this idiotic comment by Robertson

10. Venezuela should call for his extradition for trial or he should be deported for spreading hate. Aren't we arresting people for preaching hate.

Jon - "The greatest wealth is to live content with little" Plato

[NYC]

76. Deported for spreading hate.

UK:

Since the July bombings, the British authorities have threatened a series of tough new counterterrorism measures aimed in part at firebrand Muslim clerics.

The home secretary, Charles Clarke, who is in charge of law enforcement, said Monday that he would "this week be publishing and then acting upon new ways of dealing with preachers of intolerance and hatred and extremists who try to exploit the openness of our society to oppress others." He did not give further details.

Sadly, also from the same article:

While some of the government's proposed new measures seem to limit civil rights, a survey published in The Guardian on Monday said 73 percent of respondents were prepared to relinquish some freedoms in return for enhanced security.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/082305Y.shtml

The New York Times at Truth Out.

[Ignoramus]

18. Did you see the daily show's hit piece on chavez?

Not exactly on topic, but: A few days back, the daily show had a skit that consisted of showing Chavez in military clothing talking at a podium, while Jon Stewart said something to the effect that we have a dictator right here in latin america. Then there was a voice over, to pretend to be Chavez, ordering people to wear their underwear on the outside, so they can check.

[Judi Lynn]

19. That's low. Would never have expected that from Stewart. God.

He could spend some time reading Venezuelan history, for a little perspective. He's way off base.

[K-W]

22. The use of dictator was sloppy,

But its a comedy show, and the overall piece was not anti-Chavez.

[K-W]

20. Hit piece? Are you kidding me.

C-O-M-E-D-Y

[TahitiNut]

25. Once upon a time, a populist military leader would be to the right ...

... of the US. No longer. It's more a commentary on how far to the fascist right the US has lurched and tumbled. Chavez is no Gandhi. Chavez is no libertarian. On the Political Compass, he'd fall somewhere close to -1, +5 ... above the X-axis and only slightly to the left of the Y-axis. We should remember that 'liberal,' when related to a democratic government, means that minority rights and liberties are protected from majoritarian infringements. Populism is not 'liberal.' It looks good in comparison to a Pinochet-style of right-wing authoritarianism ... which the US is becoming.

[NWHarkness]

30. Bananas

It was a refernce to the Woody Allen movie, Bananas.

So, should leftist leaders be sacred cows who can not be made fun of?

[Ignoramus]

46. Jokes do have a meaning

Everyone should be subject to being made fun of. But, there is a meaning behind a joke.

When the daily show makes fun of John Kerry for having a wooden commentarly on Lance Armstrong, it is different than the ad associating Howard Dean with pierced nose, hollywood liberal blah blah. They aren't just jokes, they are political commentary. The daily show's comment about John Kerry is like "Kerry's demeanor reflects a weakens of democrat's political strategy". When the group that produced the anti-dean ad was commenting something like "democrats are weird. Apply the hate you have for weird people to Dean". I call that a hit piece.

The meaning behind the Daily Show's skit about Chavez appeared to be nothing more than "Chavez is a dictator". So, I call it a hit piece.

[H5N1]

73. True. Also, most Americans are in the dark on Chavez

Stewart was reinforcing the negative view
of Chavez as portrayed by Fox.

Very disappointing. Chavez is awesome, if Stew
is going to say anything about him it should at least be true.

[Kolesar]

27. Robertson Is on commercial TV. We could get them to cancel his show.

I found the stations: http://www.cbn.com/700club/ShowInfo/Schedule/localtvlistings.asp

[TommyO]

32. Sent mail to my local broadcaster

urging them to remove The 700 Club from their lineup because of Robertson's comments.

[Kolesar]

35. Well done

The home page of WUAB has a poll: are video games becoming too violent?

[Lorien]

42. Sounds like a job for the DU activist corps! n/t

[Initech]

28. Extradite! Extradite! Extradite! Extradite!

Better yet, send Robertson off to Gitmo! He IS advocating terrorism, after all!

[mtnester]

33. Pat Robertson put himself into the category of Terrorist when he

backed the assassination of Chavez. If a hard core fundamentalist of another country said that about our president we would hunt them down and arrest them for...oh wait.


(Really though, wouldn't it be fun to watch? Forget the WOULD, it WILL be fun to watch.)

Pat be wakin up in Carracas one day soon I am thinking.

[catmandu57]

44. Wouldn't it be something

A snatch team grabs bro pat and the next thing we know he's up against the wall in Carracas.

[0rganism]

34. WWJA?

Now we know the answer.

(Who would Jesus assasinate?)

[mtnester]

39. And another thing...not only did this effin terrorist threaten a

world leader, I would like to remind you that he also wants a holocust against gays.

Scare yourself about him and his buddy Falwell some more here: http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hatespeech/robertson.html

No pity for him...none...may Jesus show him the mercy he deserves.

God repays a man for what he has done; he brings upon him what his conduct deserves. (Job 34:11)...

Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Matthew 23:28

[deutsey]

41. Viva Chavez!

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

43. Venezuela Says Robertson Call to Kill Chavez Criminal (Bloomberg)

<snip>
Aug. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Venezuelan Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel said that calls by U.S. television evangelist Pat Robertson to kill Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez were ``criminal.'' U.S. Senators Norm Coleman and Mel Martinez called Robertson's statements ``irresponsible'' and ``incredibly stupid.''

``It was an incredibly stupid statement and has no reflection on reality,'' Coleman, the chairman of the Senate's Foreign Relations subcommittee on the western Hemisphere, told reporters while on a trip to Rio de Janeiro. ``I met with President Chavez on my last visit a couple of months ago and he related that concern to me, about how the U.S. was out to assassinate him. I told him not to lose any sleep about it.''

Chavez, 51, in June said there was ``evidence'' that the U.S. wanted him dead, an act that would violate an assassination ban first signed by Gerald Ford in 1976. The Venezuelan leader has repeatedly accused President George W. Bush of backing efforts to topple his government, a charge the U.S. denies.

``This type of statement justifies the Venezuelan government's worry about preserving the life of its president,'' Rangel said. ``President Bush said yesterday that his government rejects all forms of terrorism. The reaction of the U.S. to this presumably religious man will put to the test U.S. rhetoric.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aniyHDU_tsDI&refer=us

[Cha]

68. Yeah, there's much more to it

than pat robertson calling for an assassination of my man Chavez.

Chavez is on record for being rightly concerned about it. I like it that even the fascist wing is calling pat robertson's remarks incredibly stupid and they might as well apply that to robertson, himself.

[Gregorian]

45. Maybe they're thinking about a preemptive strike?

Hey, we did it.

[bobbieinok]

83. BIG surprise--Savage praises preemptive 'necessary' attack on Chavez

preemptive attack on Iraq was also necessary

[eleny]

47. Time for one of those "I'm sorry" web sites

Apologizing for our religious crackpots - the ones that run the U.S. government.

[kwolf68]

48. This should finish Pat Robertson

But it won't. That crackpot has uttered more non-sense than my 10 month old baby boy.

I am flabbergasted at the level of this man's idiocy, but am more astounded at the followers of this moron. UNBELIEVABLE.

[bemildred]

51. I really think he's a bit "mental", not "reality based".

The result of being surrounded by sycophants for too long, like Bush.

[CanonRay]

50. Why don't they indict him...

and then seek his extradition. That would REALLY put the ball in the chimp's court. The Christian Right would go nuts. I love it. What if someone here said the same thing about Bush. The Secret Service would be all over him.

[Catrina]

52. Don't forget

he also called for the bombing of the State Department a while ago. Nothing happened to him then either.

If US law forbids the assassination of foreign leaders, then isn't a crime for a public figure (remember, he is not just a radical cleric, he ran for the presidency) to call for such an act?

The whole world should express outrage over this comment, since he is so close to the Bush administration and is not just an ordinary citizen out of his mind, ranting. He has influence in this government and Venezuela has already said such plans are in the works here in the US.

Anyone else saying what he said about the State Dept. would have been arrested ~ he wasn't. That shows the influence he has ~

[Judi Lynn]

54. Bush must be afraid of him because he has right-wing clout.

Don't want to offend the looney-toons. Where ELSE would they get their votes?

It shows how much power he has if they didn't chastise him on that State Department spew. Maybe he served their interests by attacking Secretary Powell, who had dared to timidly challenge them at times.

[Judi Lynn]

55. CNN poll:Do you think Pat Robertson's comment about Venezuela's Hugo Chave

Do you think Pat Robertson's comment about Venezuela's Hugo Chavez was out of line?

Currently:

Yes 80% 99794 votes

No 20% 25101 votes

Total: 124895 votes

http://www.cnn.com/

Lower right corner.

[Cha]

69. cnn doesn't know that's why they ask

incredibly stupid questions!!

[roguevalley]

56. Good. Take Robertson to the wall on this one using the law. It

will be a nice contrast: a man using the system against a terroristic threat and a man breaking the law by advocating it.

[slay]

59. The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

Rock on Chavez! Here's a link to the awesome Chavez documentary "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (no surprise considering the current corporate media state): http://www.chavezthefilm.com/html/home.htm

International Jury : "The best television programme in the world this year"

[Cha]

70. You are too kind! I'm saving this

for later. It will be nice to have some of this history on Chavez as information when I'm trying to get out the news that Chavez is one of the Good Guys!

:toast:

[EVDebs]

62. Buy your gas from CITGO and you buy from Venezuela/send msg to Bush

[Cha]

71. I do! I did before I even knew

it was Venezuelan. We used to have a DUer who's "name" was "buycitgo"..I don't know what happened to him but that's how I found out that Citgo was the gas to buy.

[dansolo]

78. How would people react if OBL advocated the assasination of Bush?

This is an identical situation. Pat Robertson is no different than Osama bin Laden.

[raysr]

79. What if

Chavez said Robertson should get "whacked"? That wouldn't stand would it?

[R Hickey]

80. Tele-terrorist Robertson should be in jail.

This tele-terrorist and his cult followers should be rounded up and jailed before they try to carry out their guru's murder plans.

This demented tele-terrorist has also recently prayed on TV for the death of supreme court judges.

[ngGale]

81. Roberts, part of the Christian Taliban ...

an extremist is an extremist. Go Venezuela!

[cheesloaf]

84. ...and the U.S. State Department replies...

On August 23, McCormack dismissed Robertson's remarks as the views of a private citizen that do not reflect U.S. policy.

"We do not share his view," he said. "His comments are inappropriate."

read the article here: http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-12246.html

[cheesloaf]

85. follow-up info from the briefing:

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

TUESDAY, AUGUST 23, 2005
(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

12:58 p.m. EDT

MR. MCCORMACK: Good afternoon. I don't have any opening statements, so we'll jump right into questions.

QUESTION: I want to ask you about Pat Robertson's suggestion that the United States assassinate the President of Venezuela as a way of getting rid of a dictator and not having to spend $200 billion getting the job done.

MR. MCCORMACK: I would say that Pat Robertson is a private citizen and that his views do not represent the policy of the United States. We do not share his view and that his comments are inappropriate and that, as we have said before, any allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan Government are completely baseless and without fact.

QUESTION: Thank you.

QUESTION: Can I have a follow up on that?

MR. MCCORMACK: Yes.

QUESTION: In other cases when somebody, a private citizen suggests the killing of a foreign leader you consider that guy a terrorist. Do you consider Pat Robertson -- his ideas to be -- also embracing terrorist -- acts of terrorism against other leaders?

MR. MCCORMACK: I've said what I'm going to say on the matter.

QUESTION: Can I ask though about Mr. Chavez? Do you agree that Venezuela under Chavez is a launching pad, as Pat Robertson said, for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism? I mean, you guys have been pretty tough on Mr. Chavez. Would you go that far, though?

MR. MCCORMACK: Well, first of all, let me separate the two issues of Mr. Robertson's comments about action against President Chavez.

Concerning Venezuela, we have expressed our concerns in the past regarding some of Venezuela's behavior in the hemisphere. What we have said is that Venezuela should try to play a positive role in the hemisphere. We have invited the Venezuelan Government to join our positive agenda for the hemisphere in which we seek to promote democracy, promote greater prosperity for all the citizens of the hemisphere. This was the focus of the recent summit of the OAS in Florida, and we have an Embassy in Caracas and we are in contact with Venezuelan officials. So our agenda is a positive one for the hemisphere.

We invite Venezuela to join in that positive agenda for the hemisphere and in its contacts with its neighbors and other countries of the neighborhood that they play a transparent and open and positive role with those countries.

QUESTION: Does it follow that their agenda is a negative one?

MR. MCCORMACK: Again, we have in the past, you've heard us and the various officials talk about Venezuela and certain actions that they have taken in the hemisphere. We urge Venezuela, as all countries in the hemisphere, to play a positive role in the hemisphere and in their relationships with other countries in the hemisphere to have an open, transparent and positive relationship that you would have between two sovereign states anywhere around the world.

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. MCCORMACK: Yeah, we'll move around here.

Yeah, Nicholas.

QUESTION: Sean, you say Mr. Robertson is a private citizen, but he clearly expresses the views of people who are clearly the President's base -- a big part of that base, at least, which are Christian conservatives and Republicans. Do you -- you don't think that much of the world may interpret this as much as you can say that he is a private citizen as perhaps expressing the views that are shared by a big part of the Republican Party?

MR. MCCORMACK: I would think that people around the world would take the comments for what they are. They're the expression of one citizen. And we have been very clear -- I have been very clear that this is not the policy of the United States Government. We do not share his views and that his comments are inappropriate.

Yes, ma'am.

QUESTION: Which one?

MR. MCCORMACK: Right in front of you and then we'll get to you, if you're talking about Venezuela.

QUESTION: Is this -- do you consider it's not ambivalent from the U.S. Government to consider for one hand or do you suggest that Venezuela possibly -- probably is using its oil supply potentially to interfere in political issues in other countries? And by the same time, you are asking and requesting cooperation from the Venezuelan Government with the Drug Enforcement Agency. Is it not an ambivalent position from your government?

MR. MCCORMACK: No. I don't think I ever talked -- I don't think I talked about Venezuela trying to use its oil or money or oil --

QUESTION: What do you suggest?

MR. MCCORMACK: -- for any particular purpose. I was asked this question yesterday of whether or not I thought that they were trying to use their influence. What I said was what I said today. and that is we would expect that they play an open and a positive role in the hemisphere and that holds with their neighbors as well. Anytime you have relations -- a relationship between two sovereign states we would expect that that relationship would be on the basis of a mutual trust and respect and transparency.

And with regard to fighting the production, the processing and the transit of illicit drugs, we would think that that's a good for the hemisphere. I don't think anybody argues that it's important and necessary to cooperation in fighting the spread of drugs. So I don't -- that's our agenda. And with respect to the Venezuela Government on -- their views on those subjects, you can ask them.

QUESTION: But what do you consider --

MR. MCCORMACK: Yeah, we're going to move it around.

QUESTION: -- open and transparent manner?

MR. MCCORMACK: Yeah.

more here: http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-12224.html
(sry, should have all of this in one post, but this was a bit long)

[pitohui]

87. agreed

robertson should be prosecuted for making a terroristic threat

could even be charged w. conspiracy if he was sending a message to others w. his broadcast, isn't this what we accuse osama of doing, sending terroristic messages in coded phrases

[slackmaster]

88. Please stop playing into Robertsons' hand by giving him attention

If people would ignore the sonofabitch he'd be a lot less of a problem.