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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:38 AM
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US dismisses Iran nuclear report
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4178804.stm

Last Updated: Wednesday, 24 August 2005, 07:09 GMT 08:09 UK

US dismisses Iran nuclear report

The United States has criticised an independent investigation which
found no evidence that Iran was working on a secret nuclear weapons
programme.

The report said traces of bomb-grade uranium in Iran's nuclear
facilities came from contaminated Pakistani equipment, not Iranian
activities.

But the US said there were other ways Iran could be building nuclear
weapons.

<snip>

However, a State Department spokesman said the report did nothing to
reduce their concern at Iran's nuclear programme.

He listed a series of what he called "unresolved concerns", which
included Iran's alleged dealings with clandestine nuclear procurement
networks and the Bush administration's strong belief that the country
was developing and pursuing a nuclear weapon.

more...

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:51 AM
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1. bushco cares nothing for fact
if the facts don't support their view, then they attack the messenger.

the drums of war with Iran keep beating. :eyes:
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:56 AM
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2. Why does that sound hauntingly familiar?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:59 AM
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3. it's the August build-up
to the September product roll-out

regarding "no exit plan from Iraq" -- bush* does have one - he's going to exit Iraq by going through Iran

meanwhile - regarding bush*'s comparison of Iraq war with our own American Revolution -- yeah there is a similarity -- we were fighting against a "GEORGE" back then too
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:02 AM
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6. yes where is Andy Card....my guess working on the marketing plan
Andrew H. Card, Jr.
From SourceWatch
(Redirected from Andrew Card)
Andrew H. Card, Jr. (http://www.conservativeusa.org/whosonfirst.htm) (b. May 10, 1947), is President George Walker Bush's Chief of Staff.

Card helped coordinate the White House campaign for an Iraq invasion. The New York Times in September 2002 quoted Card as saying, "From a marketing point of view you don't introduce new products in August." Card was explaining what the Times characterized as a "meticulously planned strategy to persuade the public, the Congress, and the allies of the need to confront the threat from Saddam Hussein." George W. Bush credited Card with the idea for Bush's brief visit to 600 U.S. soldiers celebrating Thanksgiving in Baghdad in 2003.<[1> (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/28/international/middleeast/28SECR.html?pagewanted=print&position=)]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Andrew_Card
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:50 AM
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8. This is so deja vu.
I wish I could compare the scripts used for the build-up toward Iraq. Probably verbatim.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:01 AM
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4. yadda yadda yadda - we've heard it all before
.
.
.

USSA still crying "wolf"

Who do they think is listening anymore?

The US is still destroying a nation that had squat

Think the world doesn't notice?

oh

I furgot

this is all for the benefit of their sheeples

after all

they still hafto justify their tax dollars at work, no?

(sigh)

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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:02 AM
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5. Oh, well,
As long as the Bush administration has a "strong belief" that Iran is "developing and pursuing a nuclear weapon"....

That's good enough for me!!!

I mean, pre-emptive war based on Bush's "gut".... what could go wrong?

Bush's "strong belief" vs. an independent investigation? Whooo! Gimme faith-based government!


Fucking Chimperor.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:07 AM
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7. These neanderthals dismiss everything they don't agree with.
.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:56 AM
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9. And now, the age old question of, "How could a Hitler have happened"....
...is being answered in front of our very eyes. This guy has an approval rating of 36% in one poll, yet slugs forward as if he has a mandate from heaven. And you know what, just like a Hitler, he thinks he does. He doesn't believe those polls. He has court flatterers around him who tell him they're not true...the people love him...he needs to go forward with his agenda...

Its scary people. I just hope he doesn't take us all under with him. And I'm not convinced he want.
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:05 AM
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10. I was glad to see the BBC put "unresolved concerns" in quotes...
I laughed and I cried when they listed one allegation and a strong belief as examples of a series of "unresolved concerns".
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:00 AM
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11. Which would you rather have?
A policy based upon strong beliefs or one based upon verified facts? A policy based upon strong beliefs is one of obfuscation and unaccountability. Obscurantism is the tool of the totalitarian movement.

Obscurantism 1. n. opposition to the increase and spread of knowledge. 2. deliberate evasion of clarity.
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dutchdoctor Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:27 AM
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12. Wait for it
Want to bet when the next phrases start appearing in the news?:

"Iran sitting on stockpiles of WMD"
"The capability to launch a WMD attack within 45 minutes"
"mobile labs to produce WMD"
"not trust the word of a madman"
"Evidence in the form of a mushroom cloud"

just a few from the top of my head.

Evidence? Who needs evidence when you have "strong beliefs"?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:43 AM
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13. Are we really that stupid?
As time goes on, and I see this administration using the same patterns of behavior over and over again, I wonder how they can get away with it. I used to believe it was the media and its' avoidance of controversy for fear of displeasing the powers that be. Now I'm not so sure. Everybody in this country (and in the world) has seen this pattern before. It's so clear and the similarities are so real that we only have to substitute one letter for another; the "q" in Iraq becomes an "n".So my question is; is it really the media pulling the wool over our eyes for five years, or are we really that stupid?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:04 AM
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14. God told him Iran has nukes...
That's ALL he needs to know
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dutchdoctor Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:37 AM
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18. God's speech impediment just made W invade Iraq the first time
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:53 AM by dutchdoctor
What God really said is:

Fun you and your war, Mr Bush, sun my funning din!
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:11 AM
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15. It's deja vu all over again
You think the US is a pariah state now, in the world's eyes? You ain't seen nothing yet.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:13 AM
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16. This is a Sisyphean nightmare
:banghead:

Maybe more like Groundhog Day. I don't know. It's a nightmare either way.

:cry:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:18 AM
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17. One Nation, Under PNAC, With Illegal War and Injustice for All.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:54 AM
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19. Where the hell did accountable journalism go? Unspecified 'other ways'
and listing a series of vagaries amount to a complete dismissal of an independent investigation.

Since when did dictating broad categorical denials without one meaningful fact in support of said denial amount to credible journalism?

Have facts really lost their way to platitudes in the Neo-Conservative journalism world?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:55 AM
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20. A fall roll-out of "strong belief" trumps facts
Complete with a spokesperson from State listing "a series of...concerns"

Deja vu :(
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:55 AM
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21. Bush is sad and concerned with this grave and gathering threat!
That line's got to come up pretty soon now.
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:26 PM
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22. This is why
Bush does not want to pull troops out of Iraq and is building military bases there. This was the the plan all along to go into Iraq than Iran. Iraq was a easier target than Iran will be. I hope that people don't fall for his Bullshit again.
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