McCain Endorses Teaching Intelligent Design in Schools

[Bleacher Creature]

McCain sounds like presidential hopeful
A.E. Araiza / Arizona Daily Star

U.S. Sen. John McCain knows why he wants to be president. He isn't running for the job - officially. That won't happen, if it happens at all, until after next year's midterm elections

<SNIP>

On Tuesday, though, he sided with the president on two issues that have made headlines recently: teaching intelligent design in schools and Cindy Sheehan, the grieving mother who has come to personify the anti-war movement.

McCain told the Star that, like Bush, he believes "all points of view" should be available to students studying the origins of mankind.

The theory of intelligent design says life is too complex to have developed through evolution, and that a higher power must have had a hand in guiding it.

<SNIP>
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/politics/90069

Can we all officially STOP calling him a moderate now?? Please???

[ironman202]

1. he just needs to be schooled

there are those that reason can reach and then there's those other shits.

[atreides1]

14. McCain has sold his soul

I still believe that in his official debriefing after being released from captivity is evidence that McCain ratted out some of his fellow
POW's who didn't make it home.

To this day he has refused to allow the release, and according to the DoD he is the only one that can authorize the information to be released.

In his own book he admits that he signed a statement and that he was given medical treatment based on who he was. How is it that the son and grandson of Navy Admirals only achieved the rank of Captain?

BushCo found it, and used it to make McCain the docile little sheep that he's become. Yes, every so often he will vote against what his
Lord and Master wants, but you will notice that most of the time he
supports the party line.

It's not up to me to say whether what he might have done was right or wrong, but does anyone here really think that he could have been elected to office if the whole truth was known?

McCain has already been schooled, by Karl Rove, and it looks like the lesson has been learned.

[kysrsoze]

30. Despite his being a former POW, he's nothing but a big pussy

I really despise him for having ABSOLUTELY NO convictions.

[atreides1]

35. Being a former POW does not give carte blanche

He has no convictions, that came out in his run against Bush. He just reinforced that last year wth that hug, a little lower and I bet McCain would've swallowed.

I will admit that I had respect for him at one time, now I find him to be a disgusting little pissant with no convictions whatsoever.

[Radio_Lady]

100. My husband and I agree with you totally.

He bought into the McCain garbage and supported him briefly. Then, he moved on to Howard Dean, and finally, to John Kerry.

Now he hates Kerry and McCain. Dean is still questionable.

Who WILL we have in 2008?

[saigon68]

101. THE INTEROGATORS IN HANOI MESSED WITH HIS BRAIN

AFTER TAKING IT OUT--

UNFORTUNATELY THEY FORGOT TO "PUT IT BACK"

[ihelpu2see]

47. Exactly, Great Post. eom

[Mike_The_Computer]

87. McCain is without honor.

How can someone who claims to have gone through what he did in the war, have so easily become Rove's leather gimp? Ahh yes, those delusions of grandeur again. What a whore, and a sellout.

[Pachamama]

98. Maybe McCain is the real Manchurian Candidate? Sounds like his program is

kicking in....

:eyes:

[Turbineguy]

2. Not a very bright idea

(sorry, couldn't resist)

[Sanity Claws]

3. "All points of view" - Does that mean the creation story of every

religion or culture must be taught? I doubt it. He just means Christian version.

[Disturbed]

11. McCain is another RW slug.

John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.

The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.

Here's what the AP's investigation found:McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.

The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

[jobycom]

48. That's not exactly what ID is.

It's a goofy system that points out places where science hasn't figured something out yet, and claims that because science doesn't have an answer, it may be the work of an intelligent designer. In theory, ID wouldn't talk about who that designer was or how her or she did it, it would just point out that there seems to be a design behind it all.

The biggest problem is that it isn't a scientific theory at all. It basically says "Where science hasn't found an answer, let's give up and say this." There is no scientific method, no observation, no provability. As a "theory," there's no science to it. As a system of thought of any sort it has no merit, since all it does is look for holes in other systems of thought and try to fill them with a god. It doesn't prove that a question is unanswerable by science, it merely assumes it is unanswerable, even though science may one day find an answer.

And philosophically, it's just silly. It's an attempt to claim that because things all work together, there must have been a design to make them work together. But evolution already addresses that, through the idea of natural selection. Things that work well together stay together and survive, things that don't either find things they work well with, or disappear. Science disproves ID before it begins.

So teaching it as science is dumb. They would be forcing scientists to teach something against science. Teaching it as philosophy would be weak, except in the context of Aristotle, maybe. There's just no place for it.

Supporters try to disguise it by claiming it simply teaches students to ask questions about their assumptions. That's a noble goal, but there is no question-asking in ID--there is simply answer-giving. Whereas a student might wonder why something seems to fit so well together, and try to find a scientific or philosophical reason for it, ID says "Trust us, there's a designer." It's not an attempt to make anyone think, it's an attempt to convince weaker minds that there must be a god. It's easy to agree with the rhetoric of ID, up until you get to the actual subject, and then it falls apart.

[Theduckno2]

86. Great post!

The scientific method is what is being taught when evolution is discussed. I don't want the next generation to say it's too complicated and give up the quest for learning/thinking.

As for Sen. McCain, this further proves to me he is just one of Bushco's minions.

[jobycom]

89. Thanks! nt.

[Zenlitened]

109. Challenge an IDer to explain "intelligent design" without...

... using the word "evolution."

Makes for a very brief conversation!

[NewJeffCT]

51. what about the view that the tooth fairy is real?

Or that the moon is made of green cheese, or that the government has aliens locked up in Area 51?

[slay]

103. I believe we came from fairy dust. I DEMAND this be taught in school

so that my beliefs can be respected! :P

[tridim]

4. My liberal brother still thinks McCain is a traditional conservative

Although he can't tell me why he thinks that. I made my final decision the day he was caught on tape making out with his glorious fascist in chief.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

5. McCain: Anti-science, Anti-choice and flip-flop on stem cell research

Oh ya, and couldn't hug and kiss W enough during the 2004 campaign.:puke:

[davidinalameda]

6. let the pandering continue

he was never a moderate

first he kisses Bush's ass and now this

[truebrit71]

7. With this latest flip-flop it's official, he's running in 2008....

:eyes:

[orion9941]

8. Argh!!

I guess he is practicing blowing the religious reicht now so he is ready to give them a reach around in 08'.

[jobycom]

9. I've stopped calling him anything nice

He's a conservative without honor, who willingly becomes the servant of a man who insulted his family and questioned his military sacrifice. I don't even believe his opinion is his opinion anymore.

[shantipriya]

28. Empty suit

I agree with you 100%.He is a man without principles.Just because he was a POW, he thinks he owns the world.

[jobycom]

45. I had respect for his Viet Nam service, but apparently he did not.

BushCo spread rumors that he broke under torture and may have lost his mind. What kind of a person sides with someone who said that about them? He is a hero for his service in VN, but he sold his soul when he got back.

[candice]

65. He has incredibly sick humor and bad judgment. Time Mag quoted some of

his comments made publicly, and it was obvious that the man is sick.

Any man who says in a public audience that Chelsea is the love child of Hilary and Janet Reno deserves to go up in flames.

His sucking up to Shrub after South Carolina, which he would have won except for Karl Rove's filthy tricks is repulsive. I can't stand to look at the man any more than I can look at the Chimp. Fortunately, I unplugged the cable.

[silvermachine]

106. I remember that "joke" about Chelsea...

...it put me off the guy forever, to this very day. And when I didn't think he could do anything worse, his fealty to the fraud-in-chief proved me wrong. Link to David Corn's piece in Salon...

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

[Goldeneye]

10. Good news.

We're one step closer to having flying spaghetti monsterism taught in schools.



McCain can give the first lesson on it. I think that would be appropriate.

[RedEarth]

12. LOL...I guess that was his official announcement he's running for president

[triguy46]

13. fine, but not in a science class. n/t

[hunter]

66. Fine, I'll save it for stupid class.

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[bspence]

15. Yep, lost aaaalll respect for that guy n/t

[truth2power]

16. "all points of view" Oh good grief!!

I guess we should seriously discuss whether the world sits on the back of a giant turtle..

Pandering. Is there an icon for that??

[shantipriya]

17. McCain!?!?!?!?

I am not surprised. I never thought him to be intelligent.Besides he has no pronciples and is a SOB!!!!!

[MadisonProgressive]

18. Well, he just made himself unelectabe

[lancdem]

32. I think he's trying to appease the fundie base

so he has a chance in the GOP primaries.

[0rganism]

19. So his opinion lines up with 55% of Americans recently polled...

The bush administration may be going tits-up on damn near every other policy issue, but this one really does have some serious cross-the-board support.

*sigh*

[shantipriya]

21. intelligent design bull !

In that case,I might have to think about moving to the North!

[EST]

20. He has never been a moderate.

His culpability in the S&L and Keating five scandals as well as his complicity in the barely under the radar prison torture and financial scandals, brewing right now in his home state, have long since branded him in the eyes of those willing to do a bit af research.
His own lies and underhandedness have been a useful tool in the hands of the more aggressive members of the cabal. He is every bit the wimp he was been portrayed as, a kind of clumsy cross between Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Such a man will always cleave to power, a supplicant to those who outrank him and a willing participant in the disenfranchisement of those below.
He is not a leader: he is a willing miscreant in the shadow the mafia don, rising to real power by the machinations of the actual conniving controllers, ala Bush, or a useful tool, a sop to the masses, because it is his "turn."

[Hobarticus]

22. Lost respect for McCain after that shot of him embracing Dubya in '04...

This is the same man whose '00 primary campaign said that McCain's wife was using drugs. Four years later, he's hugging him. Any man worth his salt would've decked Bush for publicly humiliating his wife like that. Told me all I needed to know about McCain.

[AlGore-08.com]

55. Hey, he was campaigning hard for Smirk in 2000, much closer to the smears

He didn't wait four years to suck up to the guy who smeared him and his family - - he was on the road, kissing up to Smirk the day after Smirk kicked him in the face.

And once again: everybody who was panting for McCain to be Kerry's running mate - - and all those folks who think that the end of Smirk means the end of the insanity - - should stop and think about this hard. Really, really hard.

[Copperred]

23. He's a piper who should have died in his cell...

Sick....it makes me sick to even say that...but its true.

A man like this who has been threw what he has been through...yet supports this is sick....is suffering was certainly in vain.

[madaboutharry]

24. McCain's Wannabe status is such

old news.

[PurityOfEssence]

25. Take down the "for sale" sign, John; your soul's been long since delivered

Why do so many moderates like this sweet-faced shifty primitive? He's a veritable troglodyte by choice, and he'd shill for Satan if it would get him the presidency. I also question his basic sense: his own people have screwed him repeatedly and would NEVER give him the support for the big job; the guy's either a slobbering imbecile or delusional.

[blueblitzkrieg]

26. McCain is a POS.

[iconoclastic cat]

27. McCain, you ignorant slut.

[niallmac]

78. Tastefully said. I concur. n/t

[Imalittleteapot]

29. Yep. McCain looking for the fundie vote. Does he

know how many votes this will cost him.

[daleo]

31. Are there no non-fundamentalist Republicans left?

Is it possible to be an agnostic and a conservative (publicly) at the same time anymore? Or would you get drummed out of the party?

[AlGore-08.com]

56. No, there aren't

Even the ones who want to be are not, because the far right will take them out the same way they dumped Dick Reardon for that idiot Bill Simon out here in oh-so-liberal Cali.

[daleo]

84. I appreciate the response.

I think you are right - a non-believer (or even a not very ardent believer) just wouldn't be allowed in anymore.

[Don Claybrook]

33. Allow me to speak on the record

Fuck John McCain.

There. If I ever become deluded and talk about how McCain is really a decent guy and all, someone please point out this link so that my assertion can be immediately repudiated.

Thank you.

[Redstone]

34. And the horse he rode in on.

I guess he used up all his courage and integrity (which he used to have a lot of).

Now he's just another ratbag politician. How disappointing.

Redsotne

[Richard Steele]

96. And his little dog, too! nm

[6000eliot]

36. I think that ultimately he is a loser anyway,

so I hope the repubs choose him in '08. He smells of the politically expedient, just like Kerry did.

[AlGore-08.com]

58. He won't be a loser unless we make him one

The media slobber all over him, and he is polling very, very, very strongly nationally. The reason he's kissing up to the far right is that he's got a bigger problem winning the nomination than he has winning the general.

[silvermachine]

110. Very accurate analysis...

...his biggest hurdle would be to secure enough of the far RW vote (which we all know to makeup a very sizable percentage of the GOP, mainstream media claims notwithstanding) to get the nomination. I'm afraid that if he succeeds, the general election would be a cakewalk since so many people seem to have this mistaken impression of him being a principled pol. In truth, he is a toothless old warrior, shorn of character or principle, but with an outsized ego to feed. In this respect, he really reminds me of Chimposter, though Chimp never saw war 1st hand.

[FredScuttle]

37. "all points of view"

In that case, I favor including the point of view of the Viet Cong in any lesson plans touching on Vietnam. I would be especially interested in hearing the side of McCain's torturers and how they were justified in their actions...after all, we want to be open-minded about this, right?

[CatholicEdHead]

38. Talk about selling out your convictions

There was a time when McCain was a quasi-independent. Ever since he endorsed and hugged Bush, who smeared him in the 2000 primaries it was all sellout from then on.

[silvermachine]

111. Quasi-independent only when he could afford to be....

...or when it resulted in favorable press for the gasbag himself. He would voice his "independence" from administration positions when the votes were secure for the GOP and he could put on his ill-fitting "maverick" hat. Or, when there was no chance of an administration issue or legislation passing or being adopted, he could buck his masters because he already had so much cover from his colleagues anyway. He sickens me.

[Catchawave]

39. Should I cancel my membership to the AMNH ?

American Museum of Natural History, and turn my back on "Lucy". ?

Otherwise, who is this Supreme Magical Invisible Being John McCain is speaking of?

[KittyWampus]

40. This Article Completely Gets What Intelligent Design Says WRONG

it is very scary that so very few people actually even know what Intelligent Design Theory ACTUALLY says.

And this includes Liberals AND Rightwing Creationists.

[Rex]

41. Life is not to complex to have developed naturally.

Everything organic develops naturally via mutation, radiation and adaptation. Just saying something MUST be true because of FAITH in your theory...well...sux ass. Show me some proof or STFU!

[stepnw1f]

42. GOP=Confederate Taliban (nt)

[Zomby Woof]

43. Fuck MCain

He needs more time in the tiger cage.

[gizmo1979]

44. I hope on next years ACT

test everyone answers none of the above,because it's too diffucult to explain to all science questions.How are we suppose to become a technology based economy if science is relegated to science fiction.Maybe everyone should become a clergyman,or woman.

[usregimechange]

46. Yes, never again will I call him a moderate!

:puke:

[progressivebydesign]

49. I suggest teaching intelligence to McCain.

I mean how stupid do you have to be to watch you and your family trashed by Bush and Rove and then help the m.f. get elected, all the while snuggling the man every chance you get? Intelligence would be figuring out you were screwed.

[durutti]

50. This is truly insane.

Seriously. I can't even believe this shit.

[Solly Mack]

52. Because an uninformed populace is easily controlled, ID is pushed

the more uninformed you are the easier you are to control
the easier it is to control you by fear
the easier it is to screw you over because you don't know your rights
and you won't complain because you don't even know you should complain


People are raising their children to be slaves and they don't even know it.

[nolabels]

116. Let go of the idea of the man having a brain and it would be much easier

The guy seems to have parlayed his prisoner status into an undeserved status as some kind of leader. If one could decide who the competition was how easy would that be. The man was a sitting duck for Karl in 2000. It is funny to see he has also capitulated to take the shortcut his captors laid our for him on this side of the ocean. Like McCain should realize if he stupid enough to be bought out by a two bit pimp from Lincoln Savings then why would any of them REAL players support him for being President now, like he is not even a good actor.

People with half a brain can always tell when others who want to be self made men try to shore up the ole resume without spending time thinking about it first.

A pedigree always trumps anything else in republican politics anyway, hasn't anybody learned that yet?




Closeup Of George W's Goofy Expression
Caption Competition: CNN Heads Of Domination

What Bush Actually Said Immediately Before He Made This Face

"Throughout the 20th century, small groups of men seized control of great nations, built armies and arsenals, and set out to dominate the weak and intimidate the world. In each case, their ambitions of cruelty and murder had no limit. Now, in this century, the ideology of power and domination has appeared again, and seeks to gain the ultimate weapons of terror."
(snip)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0302/S00031.htm

[Solly Mack]

117. The face isn't goofy - it's indicative of someone lying

and what an interesting thing (the quote) for him to be lying about

He was obviously projecting

I don't hold any regard for McCain.

He's a pawn, nothing more.

I was speaking to how religion has been and continues to be used as a means of control. ID is a merely a new play on an old tactic.

[nolabels]

122. Along with the consideration of how straight and white ones teeth

The more money one has the more religiously magnanimous they can be. The trust funds the billionaires keep are there to promote the views of the billionaires and shelter the income from taxes.

I wouldn't think you would have any regards for McCain, I just was bouncing the idea while being a cynic.

As for my thoughts on ID, I can't stop laughing on the stupid premise that it is. It's seems like sort of an excuse someone in denial would use. Like in the realm of when the wife walks into a bedroom to see her husband with another women. They have been metaphorically been caught with their pants down for all that time during last two millennia that they have been lying and making stuff up.

I have no religion nor do I sse a need for any one in particular. To understand things in spiritual pursuit all well and good but to get over on your fellow human, rape, kill and plunder, while using it as a reason or backdrop is just plain wrong.

ID would seem me to be having a more sinister purpose. In using ID it would have the latitude to bring these clerics who claim to speak to god a easier grasp for people too ignorant to know the difference. The espousing and excuses for moral relativism, them lazy ideas, could become very handy under an umbrella of ID

Sinister purpose

When the sky is gray
And the moon is hate
I’ll be down to get you.
Roots of earth will shake.

Chorus:
Sinister purpose
Knockin’ at your door;
Come and take my hand.

Burn away the goodness;
You and I remain.
Did you see the last war?
Well, here I am again.

Chorus

I can set you free,
Make you rich and wise.
We can live forever;
Look into my eyes.

Chorus

Mm-mm-mm-mm....

Creedence Clearwater Revival
(snip)
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/creedence-clearwater-revival/34333.html

[Ilsa]

53. Wonder if he believes he might really be a dinosaur instead of a man? eom

[bpilgrim]

54. and many see him as a moderate

http://media.globalfreepress.com

peace

[yorgatron]

57. can we FINALLY put to rest,he is NOT on our side?

i'd like to ask him,how does he know God didn't invent evolution?

[JerseygirlCT]

59. The man has lost any vestige of integrity

Is there no level he won't stoop to in his attempt to win the presidency?

[raysr]

60. I wish the VC

would have kept that stupid ass kissing corksucker!!!!!

[NobleCynic]

61. ...the fundamentalist right claims another

No one who seriously puts forward intelligent design as being on par with the theory of evolution in terms of scientific or scholastic value will ever receive my vote. Ever.

[sjdnb]

62. As a mom with three still in school

I am SO tired of having to deal with political winds affecting the quality of my kid's education. And, this is just one in a string of nimwitted initiatives that has resulted, in my opinion, with each of my children receiving a lower quality education than I did in the 60's and 70's.

Every time some test shows a weakness or some politician gets a bug up their butt, school boards scramble to install some new program to address what, in the end, proves to be a fleeting anomoly.

There have been any number of experimental programs, primarily, in math, english, and science installed as a kneejerk reaction to something. They normally last a couple of years -- just long enough to mess up the kids.

But, this takes the cake! Fortunately, my husband and I have the time to work with the kids at home and, hopefully, undo the damage done by some of these programs.

But, as a taxpayer in a city that spends $12,000 per student per year for education, it really ticks me off that we have to spend so much of our family time being teachers.

[kath]

70. you should consider taking them out and homeschooling - you'd have

a lot more time to live a life!

Plenty of libs homeschool - including DUers. There's even a homeschooling forum or group here.

[girl gone mad]

94. I homeschool.

We just started this year. So far I love it. My son is a 6th grader, but he is doing College Algebra with ease. He told me he is learning much more than he ever did at school and he has no desire to go back.

We started primarily because we wanted to do some traveling this year, and our district's allowed absences would be too restrictive. The push for teaching Intelligent Design as Science in schools is disconcerting, to say the least.

[ramapo]

63. Another gutless wonder

Isn't it truly unbelievable that this is a serious issue?

[candice]

64. As if my schools had teachers who were even capable of teaching science

at all. I guess they would have appeared more competent if they had quoted a few Biblical passages. Seventh grade science teacher didn't realize that our Sun was also a star. Ninth grade science teacher was a home ec major. Chem teacher was one chapter (maybe) ahead of us in the textbox...he was a retired military officer (at least he was intelligent). I didn't take physics because it was taught by the football coach who spent most of the class drawing football strategy on the board. Football bored me even more than the teachers.
There was one high school math teacher who understood higher math, but she was mentally off and spent most of the class time trying to break down students.

[genieroze]

67. he sided with the president on two issues????????

Has McCain seen the Chimps numbers lately or is he a friend of
Diebold as well. He must know the next sElection is rigged.

[henslee]

68. We cannot trust our future to backward un-reality based zealots.

[genieroze]

69. I would like to give these nuts a challenge.

Read this book then if they still believe in this crap I'll reserve a rubber room for them.

http://www.thebiblefraud.com/

edited to fix link

[Trajan]

71. WTF is there to teach ? ...

What is the curriculum ? ... go to church ? ...

What are the major tenets ? ... God did it, I said it: listen to me ? ...

sheeeesh .....

[countingbluecars]

83. I guess it would involve something like this...

Boys and girls, scientists think thunder is caused by lightning. The sound is made as the air around the lightning bolt rapidly heats and cools. But boys and girls, we must also consider the possibility that thunder is the sound of angels bowling.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

72. breaking- THE STRAIGHT-TALK EXPRESS HAS JSUT BEEN DERAILED

if he believes this bs scam

[Kolesar]

74. I think you just nailed it...eom

[Dr Fate]

92. It has devolved into a horse & buggy.

n/t

[BiggJawn]

73. Can Bayh be far behind?

I say by the end of September. Yep, that'd be a good time for Evan Bayh to come out for "Intelligent" Design.

[54anickel]

75. Last paragraph regarding Cindy -

...McCain said Sheehan is probably being used by organizations opposed to the U.S. mission in Iraq. But, he added, she is "a symptom, not a cause" of growing public discontent with the war.

So just what might BE the cause of growing public discontent with the war? Does he honestly think that it's some dark, covert organization that is using Cindy and somehow manipulating the public?

I'll give him some credit, at least he's not inferring she's unpatriotic or aiding and abetting the enemy unlike SOME people that have made LBN today.

[silvermachine]

113. But he is saying...

...(in so many words) that she is an idiot without a true viewpoint of her own. As if she is some marionette, too stupid to notice that she is being manipulated by others, so I give him NO CREDIT. Not taking issue with you, just my opinion.

[54anickel]

126. Good point, could be taken that way I suppose - depends how

hateful one feels McCain really is.

[Endangered Specie]

76. Alright then, lets teach Viet Cong alternate history point of view

of the Vietnam War :sarcasm: think hed like that one? after all, he said ALL POINTS OF VIEW!

[leesa]

77. What a tool.

[Hissyspit]

79. He endorsed the Iraq War before it started, too, and we know how well that

has turned out.

[sakabatou]

80. All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

[struggle4progress]

81. Well, I hope he'll support the teaching of my latest theory that ..

.. the world was created from popcorn and turtle poop by a reasonably intelligent being with really bad breath.

In fact, I hope he'll come out in support of teaching all of my various theories, in the interests of raising up a generation that is not ashamed to confuse wild philosophical speculation with the less comprehensive and less gratifying results of hard boring scientific labor.

[stepnw1f]

82. Clever Anti-Intellectual Ploy

to keep American voters as undeducated as possible. Now you see why the Republicans have been underfunding public education for years. All while those who can afford private education can climb the economic ladder.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

85. Trying to kiss the religious right's ass?

[Talismom]

88. I used to think there were some things to respect about him, but

he's turned into a total whore. There's nothing left of the man--he's sold his soul and his whole ass to the devil!

[Miss Chybil]

90. I'm all for teaching Intelligent Design

in Sunday School. In public school it should be strictly science. What the hell is happening to this country? I swear to God, we're seeing the rise of our own Taliban. I hate this.

And I can't believe McCain is going to pull this kind of bull for a vote. Politicians! Blah. Honestly, I'm sick of the lot of them.

[iamjoy]

119. I'd Be OK With Teaching ID In Science Class

when they teach evolution in Sunday school.

Oh, and they can put those disclaimer stickers on textbooks about evolution, you know, that it is just a controversial theory. But we should put those same stickers on bibles.

[Miss Chybil]

127. Good idea, except

most kids have to go to public school, but they aren't forced to go to church, yet.

[Dr Fate]

91. "All points of view?" Really? "ALL" of them? McCain is an idiot.

Should we let in "all points of view" for all the other subjects too?

This is an outrage- I thought McCain was 'sposed to be the "Good Cop."

[Ruffhowse]

93. That's it, any chance I had of giving even the tiniest piece of support

to McCain is now GONE!!! The camel's back has been broken, and McCain is now just another conservative political hack to me.

[texpatriot2004]

95. McCain used to have dignity. I used to think he was a good guy

and smart too even though he was a Rethug. Ever since last November he's been on this downward slippery slope heading up Chimpy's ass. Too bad. What happened to him? Maybe that whole kool-aid thing was true after all? It's disgraceful what McCain has turned into.

[NuttyFluffers]

97. But what is his take on Intelligent Falling?

:crazy:

well, he's stil a spineless opportunist or a blackmailed tool. nothing's changed. NEXT!

[Logician]

99. Need to smear him

as a lap dog of the fundamentalist right wingnut branch of the GOP. he is either incredibly stupid (probably not, then again I am using Dubya as my standard) or the being just the biggest political whore of the moment. No backbone. Actually he never did have any.

ID as a theory? To be taught along-side of evolutionary concepts (note that I am not using the word 'theory')? More and more I wonder about the IQ of all of those faith-based Americans in the GOP. No wonder we cannot create positive change, if idiots continue to believe such supernaturalism!

[slay]

102. McCain can kiss my monkey-evolved ass

Sure - kiss up to the RELIGIOUS NUTS for votes McCain - you scumbag!

[hnsez]

104. McCain is NOT a moderate he is a proud member of the Religious Right

[sasha031]

105. Listening to Majority Report last night

McCain is just making an ass out of himself, the religious right hate him, he will we be running in 2008, DC Media Girl claims they will never accept him. He is setting himself up to be screwed all over again and I am glad about it.I have no respect for that guy anymore.

[HuckleB]

107. My letter to McCain

As a former constituent, I am writing to express my extreme dismay at your statement supporting the teaching of "intelligent design" in US schools. There is clearly no scientific basis for this belief system, as the scientific community has noted repeatedly. Thus, it makes no logical sense to teach it as scientific theory.

I am a Nurse Practitioner who works hard to ensure that the methods I use to treat patients are backed by evidence. Evidence based practice is the basis of ethical practice, and it should be the basis of ethical education.

Understanding this, the only place for the teaching of "intelligent design" in schools would be in a class titled "creation stories," which should certainly include the plethora of wonderful Native American stories about creation, beginning with the Tlingit story of the Raven.

I hope you will do the right and ethical thing and retract your statement about "intelligent design." The children of this great nation deserve it. They should not be held hostage by political maneuvering.

Sincerely,
HuckleB, PMHNP

[Zenlitened]

108. As if we needed any more proof that he's a piece of crap.

:puke:

[AzDar]

112. " All points of view"...eh, Senator? Mmmmkay, how about L.Ron Hubbard's

"point of view"?. And we mustn't forget my 9-year-old;he believes Eminem created the universe.
So many crazy "points of view", so little time.

[GoSolar]

114. Poor McCain.

He could have been great, but ended up as a Bush toady.
;(

[DrDan]

115. he made a deal with the party

he provides public support for junior in return for something in '08 - a presidential nod? with Jeb?

It was apparent during the elections last year that he sold out

[VegasWolf]

118. Isn't Sunday Bible School enought for these people? nt

[iamjoy]

120. Some Of These McCain Attacks Are Beyond The Pale

call him a flip flopper, a kiss ass and a whore.

But leave his military record out of this discussion. Don't "Swift Boat" him. I'd like to think that we're better than that.

[jokerman93]

121. Headline: Political Ambition Trumps Public Good

McCain is a whore.

n/t

[KamaAina]

123. Hey McCain! It's time for you to...

[go freedom]

124. McCain is a retard. n/t

[KamaAina]

125. He is not so stop saying that!

Seriusly, most people with mental retardation (we're trying to promote the term "cognitive disability" in its place) possess honesty and integrity, two qualities that McCain has lately shown himself to be lacking.