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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:33 PM
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Roberts Targeted in New Commercial
WASHINGTON Aug 26, 2005 — An abortion rights group on Friday launched a new television ad criticizing Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, two weeks after pulling a heavily criticized commercial that linked him to violent anti-abortion activists.

The new ad "paints a really clear and unambiguous picture of John Roberts' record and it keeps the public debate focused on the threats that he poses to our freedom," said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.
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The new ad, featuring smiling families and an American flag in the background, emphasizes a phrase in a 1981 Roberts memos: the "so-called right to privacy," and points out that he co-wrote a government memo saying the landmark Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion was wrongly decided.

"There's just too much at stake to let John Roberts become a decisive vote on the Supreme Court," the ad says.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1071614&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:43 PM
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1. I wish they would make a much bigger deal
out of the fact that he is just another in a string of "reward" position The Chimp has handed out. (Roberts was one of the lawyers who supposedly "argued" the 2000 election debacle before the SCOTUS.) At some point, people have got to get to the point where they enough is enough.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 08:33 AM
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2. NYT: Abortion Rights Group Revamps Anti-Roberts Ad
Abortion Rights Group Revamps Anti-Roberts Ad
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: August 27, 2005


WASHINGTON, Aug. 26 - Trying again after an initial misfire, the abortion rights group Naral Pro-Choice America began running a second television commercial on Friday with a broader, more abstract approach to opposing the confirmation of Judge John G. Roberts Jr. to the Supreme Court.

The new advertisement replaces a controversial one that tried to portray Mr. Roberts as "supporting violent fringe groups" and excusing "violence against other Americans" because he once defended the legal right of a convicted bomber to protest outside an abortion clinic. Naral quickly withdrew it last week after accusations of inaccuracy.

The replacement applies a softer focus. "Privacy, equality, the right to choose, fundamental freedoms Americans have cherished for generations," an announcer says as the screen displays images of parents with children and one of a racially diverse workplace.

"But John Roberts dismisses one of our established liberties as the 'so-called right to privacy,' and co-wrote a brief arguing that Roe v. Wade should be overruled," the announcer continues. "There is just too much at stake to let John Roberts become a decisive vote on the Supreme Court."

Like the previous advertisement, the commercial does not mention the divisive word "abortion."...


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/27/politics/politicsspecial1/27naral.html
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 08:33 AM
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3. NARAL Round 2; No Distortions Here (FactCheck.org).
I got this an email a bit ago.


------ Original Message --------
Subject:New FactCheck Article: NARAL Round 2; No Distortions Here
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:12:10 -0400, Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:12:10 +0000 (UT)
From: FactCheck.org <subscriberservices@FactCheck.org>
To: xxxx



NARAL Round 2: No Distortion Here

The abortion-rights group’s latest ad takes issue with Judge Roberts on whether the Constitution contains a right to privacy.

August 26, 2005

Modified:August 26, 2005
Summary



NARAL Pro-Choice America announced it would start running a new ad to replace one that it yanked off the air Aug. 11 after widespread criticism.

Unlike the first ad, which falsely implied that Roberts had excused bombing of abortion clinics, this one mostly gets it right.

The latest ad quotes accurately and in context from a 1981 memo in which Roberts dismisses the notion that the Constitution spells out a right to privacy, notes his 1991 legal brief saying Roe v Wade was "wrongly decided," and correctly quotes an editorial from USA Today raising questions about Roberts' legal record on privacy.

We have some small quibbles here and there - but overall judge this effort to be much closer to the facts than NARAL's short-lived first ad.


Analysis





When NARAL pulled its first ad off the air Aug. 11, its spokesman promised that a new ad would take its place the following Monday. Instead, the spokesman resigned and NARAL has been off the air for nearly two weeks.

NARAL Pro-Choice AmericaTV Ad: "Rights"

Announcer: Privacy...equality...the right to choose...

(On Screen: Images of young families, employees in the workplace)

Announcer: Fundamental freedoms Americans have cherished for generations. But John Roberts dismisses one of our established liberties as the "so-called 'right to privacy.'" And co-wrote a brief arguing that Roe vs. Wade should be overruled. Roberts' legal record raises questions on whether he accepts the right to privacy.

(On screen: USA Today, August 15, 2005)

Announcer: There's just too much at stake to let John Roberts become a decisive vote on the Supreme Court.



The latest ad takes a different tack, and was even produced by a different ad firm. Where the first ad showed images of a bombed-out abortion clinic, this ad shows images of a happy, smiling families and a tender couple. And rather than falsely implying that Roberts condones violence, this one mostly sticks to the facts.

The latest ad is running only on CNN nationally and in the Washington DC market on cable outlets, a NARAL spokesman said. The first ad also ran on Maine and Rhode Island broadcast stations, but not this one, at least for now.

"So-called" right?

The ad says Roberts "dismisses one of our established liberties as the 'so-called' right to privacy." And indeed, he did.

In a 1981 memo Roberts wrote to his boss Atty. Gen. William French Smith (see "supporting documents) to summarize a lecture given by Harvard Law School Dean Erwin Griswold:

John Roberts, 1981: He (Griswold) devotes a section to the so-called "right to privacy," arguing as we have that such an amorphous right is not to be found in the Constitution. He specifically criticizes Roe v. Wade.

The Republican National Committee instantly attacked the latest NARAL ad as "false and disingenuous," claiming that "nothing in John Roberts record suggests his personal opinion on the right to privacy." We disagree. In this 1981 memo, Roberts says Griswold "argued as we have," not as "you " have. While “we” could refer either to the Attorney General’s office generally or to the Attorney General and Roberts personally, he indicated no disagreement with the position that the Constitution does not contain a right to privacy.

Roe v Wade

The ad also says that Roberts "co-wrote a brief arguing that Roe vs. Wade should be overruled," which is also true. That was in 1991.

At the time Roberts was working in the Solicitor General's office and was presenting the views of the administration of George H.W. Bush. So the statement that Roe was wrongly decided and should be overturned can't necessarily be taken taken as his personal view. On a different occasion, he testified that he considered Roe to be "the settled law of the land." That was in 2003, when he was up for Senate confirmation to a seat on the US Court of Appeals.

Nevertheless, NARAL's ad accurately quotes what Roberts wrote about overturning Roe. We don't know whether Roberts would vote to overturn Roe or not, and we don't expect him to say one way or the other. But what he wrote in 1991 is as good a clue as any.

USA Today Quote

The ad quotes a USA Today editorial saying Roberts' "legal record raises questions on whether he accepts the right to privacy." The quote is accurate and in context. The editorial also said:



USA Today Editorial, Aug. 16, 2005: President Bush's nomination of John Roberts to the Supreme Court may soon call into question whether privacy rights exist. . . . Roberts' record on the issue is scanty, but legal briefs he worked on and memos he wrote raise questions as to whether he accepts current law on privacy.

We would add only that questioning a Constitutional right to privacy is nothing new. Legal thinkers have disagreed about that since at least 1890, when a famous article in the Harvard Law Review argued that many of the Constitution’s amendments have the effect of establishing “a more general right of the individual to be let alone.” Still, unlike many other rights, “the Constitution does not explicitly mention any right of privacy,” the Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade points out.

The Supreme Court, beginning in a case in 1891 and especially since the 1960s, has recognized that there may be zones of privacy in certain instances. In Griswold v. Connecticut, for example, the Court invoked a “right of privacy” in ruling that the state cannot make it illegal for married couples to use contraceptives. The court has addressed the “right to privacy” in a wide range of cases dealing with illegal searches in schools, random drug testing, and the government’s ability to access personal information.

"Decisive Vote"

NARAL's latest ad concludes by saying, "There's just too much at stake to let John Roberts become a decisive vote on the Supreme Court." That could be misleading. It is true that Roberts' vote on the court could be "decisive" on many issues, but almost certainly not on the question of legal abortions that is central to NARAL's concerns.

If confirmed, Roberts would replace Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, whose vote has been the deciding one in many close decisions. Since 1994, when Justice Stephen Breyer rounded out the Court’s current line-up, we count 149 decisions in which the court voted 5-4 with O'Connor in the majority.

Roberts could prove decisive on two questions regarding abortion, according to the National Right to Life Committee: upholding state laws that require parents be notified before a minor can obtain an abortion, and on upholding certain state laws against certain late-term abortions characterized by opponents as "partial birth" abortions. However, as we've pointed out before , only three current Justices have in the past voted to overturn Roe v Wade and send decisions about legality of abortions in general back to state legislatures. Even if Roberts sided with those three – Justices Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas – the court would still be one vote shy of the five needed to overturn Roe.

Furthermore, aside from her stand on abortion, O’Connor's record is more conservative than liberal. Statistically, since joining the court in 1981, she sided most frequently with Chief Justice William Rehnquist, doing so 82 percent of the time. She sided least often – only 57 percent of the time – with Justice John Paul Stevens.

-By Brooks Jackson, with Matthew Barge and Jennifer L. Ernst.


Sources

"NARAL Continues False and Disingenuous Attacks on Judge Roberts," Press Release, Republican National Committee, 26 August 2005

“Will Roberts leave you alone?,” Editorial , USA Today, 15 August 2005



John Roberts, Memorandum to the Attorney General re: Erin Griswold Correspondence, 11 December 1981



Rust v. Sullivan , U.S. Supreme Court, 500 U.S. 173, 1991

Samuel Warren and Louis D. Brandeis, " The Right to Privacy ," 4 Harvard Law Review 193, 1980



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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 08:33 AM
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4. the best way to lie is to say the other side's lying
the NARAL flap showcased this perfectly, like that Hutton Report--turns out Blair DID "sex up" the dossier, and more!
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:17 AM
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5. My fantasy anti-Roberts ad
Yes, I know it's too long, but I think it makes the point in a way it's seldom been done:

Picture a nationally known Progressive sitting on a stool and speaking:

In Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court did not rule abortion was moral; it held that government should not interfere in our private moral choices - should not interfere because we have a right to privacy. Many opponents of abortion, and many legal scholars like Judge John G. Roberts, Jr., feel Roe v. Wade was wrong because the Constitution does not mention a right to privacy. They say court decisions should be based only on the explicit text of the Constitution.

Well, should all the laws that protect our right to vote be abolished? The Constitution does not specifically say we have the right to vote. Should President Bush's order on stem cell research be ignored? The Constitution does not say a president may issue executive orders. The Constitution does not say we are innocent until proven guilty, may be taxed without representation - or even that there should be nine Supreme Court justices empowered to review judicial decisions. Yet these rights and privileges exist because they are embodied in the history and traditions of our legal culture.

The Constitution created a government of limited powers so that we may be free to exercise our many rights as human beings, even if that means we say or do things others find immoral or disagree with. Any candidate for the U.S. Supreme Court who does not understand that the Constitution protects individual rights - and not groups of individuals - does not deserve to be there.

Plain and simple

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