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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:15 PM
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Slow response bewilders former FEMA officials (simulated hurricane drill)
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 11:24 PM by sabra

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/politics/12549282.htm

Slow response bewilders former FEMA officials

WASHINGTON - (KRT) - Government disaster officials had an action plan if a major hurricane hit New Orleans. They simply didn't execute it when Hurricane Katrina struck.

Thirteen months before Katrina hit New Orleans, local, state and federal officials held a simulated hurricane drill that Ronald Castleman, then the regional director for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, called "a very good exercise."

More than a million residents were "evacuated" in the tabletop scenario as 120-mile-an-hour winds and 20 inches of rain caused widespread flooding that supposedly trapped 300,000 people in the city.

"It was very much an eye-opener," said Castleman, a Republican appointee of President Bush who left FEMA in December for the private sector. "A number of things were identified that we had to deal with, not all of them were solved."
"It's hard for everyone to understand why buttons weren't pushed earlier on," Castleman said of the federal response.





Bush: "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees" surrounding New Orleans as a result of Hurricane Katrina.

George Bush, ABC's Good Morning America, September 1, 2005



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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:20 PM
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1. fuk me
isn't there any way a federal judge can indict these criminals? this is beyond the pale.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:27 PM
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2. mihop
I am 99% sure...
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:29 PM
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3. Amazing...
So, Dubya replaced experienced people with political appointees. I'm not ready to blame it all on that, however, we had great response in Florida last year during Charley, Frances, Ivan & Jeanne. If these people were really incompetent, it wouldn't have mattered that it was an election year, would it?

Of course, in Florida, their incompetence showed through in other ways - millions of disaster relief dollars went to Miami/Dade, which wasn't even affected by any of the hurricanes.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 02:37 AM
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6. Another former FEMA Chief of Staff said the current...
...Deputy director's only experience is as a one time T.V. News Reporter. SHe said this on PRI's show "Marketplace" Here's some links if you want to hear it:

<http://www.publicradio.org/tools/media/player/marketplace/2005/09/02_mpp?start=00:00:19:14.0&end=00:00:21:57.0>

If the top link doesn't work for you try this one, than fast forward to 19 minutes.
<http://www.publicradio.org/tools/media/player/marketplace/2005/09/02_mpp>

<http://marketplace.publicradio.org/>

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:50 AM
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7. We had hurricanes in FL last year
but we didn't have the flooding that you see in NO, where the water doesn't go away in a relatively short time.

FL didn't do that good a job either and we were left to our own devices for the most part. But we have a population that is for the most part better off and even the poor down here have cars because you can't live without one. In NO, over 100,000 households did not have cars.

They were still incompetent, it just wasn't as apparent. Plus it was an election year, so we did get more help.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:27 PM
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10. Because Jeb used FEMA money to buy votes for Satan!
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:25 AM
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21. Yeah, it was an election year, and the governor is the President's
brother. He can literally pick up the phone any time he wants and talk to the President. That's not something that the Dem governor of LA can do. Jeb could get his bro totally focused on the problem. This time, there was a distinct lack of focus on Georgie's part.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:27 AM
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22. Maybe the money went to Miami/Dade for other reasons.
It was an election year.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:37 PM
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4. argh argh argh argh argh argh argh argh argh argh argh argh argh
I am about ready to take a DU/news sabatical for a little bit. Every fricking time I think I have heard the worst, something else comes up.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:35 AM
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8. I want to quit reading too, but I can't....
It's like a scab... It hurts and it's ugly and I know that I should leave it alone, but I keep coming back here.

I'd feel so much better if I stopped reading the news, or the forums here, of ir I just didn't give a damn... I almost envy the Freepers for that trait.
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:47 PM
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13. that's what they called strike breakers
when inidividuals crossed picket lines they were called SCABS..

an apropriate metaphore for *.

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:54 PM
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15. I am glued also. I think that it is a coping mechanism...trying to
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:55 PM by mom cat
channel the rage and serve a purpose, esp for those of us who cannot go down there and help in person. :hug:

Editted for spelling
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:59 AM
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9. I am to. I don't know how much more I can take
and on TV CNN just did a segment showing how race has played a factor in this. I am so fucking ashamed of this country. If I could leave I would.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:46 PM
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5. and if he didn't feel like reading the reports, there was always TV
(originally broadcast January 2005)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/

Oh, wait -- that was on that evil leftist PBS, which they're trying to get rid of. No wonder he wasn't watching.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:34 PM
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11. FEMA head Brown says Katrina unfolded exactly like earlier exercise
FEMA Director Michael Brown told CNN's Larry King on Wednesday, "When I became the director of FEMA a couple of years ago, I decided it was time we did some really serious catastrophic disaster planning. So the president gave me money through our budget to do that. And we went around the country to figure out what's the best model we can do for a catastrophic disaster in this country? And we picked New Orleans, Louisiana."

Organizers said "Hurricane Pam" was based on weather and damage information developed by the National Weather Service and other agencies.

"Hurricane Katrina caused the same kind of damage that we anticipated," Brown said Wednesday. "So we planned for it two years ago. Last year, we exercised it. And unfortunately, this year, we're implementing it."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/02/hurricane.drill/...
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:43 AM
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19. I think that Brown quote deserves its own thread.
It's important.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:29 AM
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24. So much for Chertoff's bullshit.
These guys really need to get on the same page.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:40 PM
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12. Someone needs to find out exactly WHEN the buses were contracted for
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 09:43 PM by EVDebs
by FEMA in order to bus out the Superdome/ConventionCenter sites.

Privatization plays a major role in explaining the 'hot potato' rescue and food/water delays.

Who at DU dares to delve into this ?

""Convoys of food, water and ice which are arriving hourly in impacted areas.

The evacuation of thousands from New Orleans to Texas. FEMA has contracted for more than 650 buses to expedite the state-ordered evacuation."" from FEMA's website

FEMA Urges Patience While Search Continues for Stranded Victims and Supplies Stream In

Release Date: September 2, 2005
Release Number: HQ-05-190

www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18540
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:51 PM
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14. they let it fester
1-a frustrating blue enclave in an otherwise red south
2-filled with homosexuals, latins and blacks who will never support them
3- make it such a horrible experience that they wont want to return
4-rebuild for the "right" kind of people and let the rest be absorbed by other urban areas
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:59 PM
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16. I don't think I can take one more official trying to make up a point
that the levee is a seperate disaster from the hurricane. Chertoff was tryin (and getting away) with that again this afternoon. This was exactly the scenario predicted for YEARS.
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:17 AM
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17. kick, because this is the "smoking gun". nt
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:34 AM
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18. "Chertoff:Katrina Scenario Didn't Exist" (CNN)
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.chertoff/index.html

so I suppose they will get away with this too.
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POLEIS Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 08:39 AM
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20. They WILL NOT get away with it
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:04 AM
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25. Thanks--that's good to hear from a newbie!
Welcome to DU, POLEIS!

:loveya:

kinda down today!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:28 AM
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23. kick
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