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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:14 AM
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Guardsmen Halt Evacuation at Superdome
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5252892,00.html

Guardsmen Halt Evacuation at Superdome


Saturday September 3, 2005 8:46 AM

AP Photo LADM136

By MARY FOSTER

Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - National Guard members halted the evacuation of
the Superdome early Saturday after buses transporting the refugees of
Hurricane Katrina stopped rolling. About 2,000 people remained in the
stadium and could be there until Sunday, according to the Texas Air
National Guard. They had hoped to evacuate the last of the crowd
before dawn Saturday.

Guard members said they were told only that the buses had stopped
coming and to close down the area where the buses were loaded.

"We were rolling," Capt. Jean Clark said. "If the buses had kept
coming, we would have this whole place cleaned out already or pretty
close to it."

The remaining refugees remained orderly, sitting down after hearing
the news.

more...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:17 AM
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1. This is bullshit! We've got to do something! Fast!
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:37 AM
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6. wtf? "if we help then they won't want to leave"
are these people completely out of their minds? they think people will actually say, hey, thanks for the water and food, I've really grown fond of this freeway overpass, so I'll pass on actual shelter, a shower, and safety.

This has to be a bad bad dream.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:15 AM
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21. Yes, that's what FEMA told the Red Cross as a reason for
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:21 AM
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2. NG scanners talking of upcoming offensive
Who's got the NG scanner links???
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:46 AM
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3. 250 armed soldiers requested for airport at 0800
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:06 AM
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11. here
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:10 AM by notadmblnd
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Cinletharwi Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:20 AM
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4. Richland Parish School Buses
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 04:22 AM by Cinletharwi
A convoy of about 10 (large, empty) Richland Parish School buses passed through Natchez, MS early Friday afternoon heading down HWY 61 towards Baton Rouge. Around 4-5PM they passed back through Natchez heading back across the river the way they orginally came - still empty.

My friends and I were wondering why they were turned around while we all knew they were desperately needed in N.O.
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oscarmitre Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:33 AM
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5. Being reported in Australia
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 04:33 AM by oscarmitre
that foreign consular officials and the like are being refused entry to NO to check on their citizens welfare.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:44 AM
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16. Oh, please, please...........
let the foreign press make such a stink about this that our press can't ignore.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:29 AM
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25. They "lost" a Spanish Diplomat last night...
Some officer on the radio was sounding pretty panicky about not being able to find her/him--around midnight.

This is just what we need..losing and mistreating OTHER countries officials.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:46 AM
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7. The Superdome is no longer a shelter
It is a prison and the conditions make Abu Ghraib look like Club Med.

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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:57 AM
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8. "The remaining refugees remained orderly"
How good to hear that the "refugees" remained "orderly". :puke:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:41 AM
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26. They are "orderly" because they are oxygen-deprived in that
stinking, shit-filled hellhole. If I were one of them I would gather up the others, walk out through that 3 feet of water to safety, and tell the soldiers to go right ahead and shoot me in the back if they felt they had to.

Time to RISE UP, people.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:16 AM
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9. why is Blanco doing this? n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:29 AM
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13. It is FEMA and Homeland Security in charge, not the Governor
Why would you think otherwise?
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:30 AM
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18. The Nationa Guard and the State Police take orders from Blanco...
of course, Fema could be giving advice to Blanco
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:47 AM
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17. Blanco ISN'T doing this, the MSM just wants people to think that
This has been taken away from her. She -- and those poor people -- are f*cked...
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:34 AM
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19. has Blanco given her authority away, or has the NG mutinied ? nt
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:03 AM
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10. As Rep. Tubbs Jones had asked,
"Why can't we get some cruise ships? Water, cruise ships, rooms, bathrooms, restaurants, places to swim, places to play..."

Why are Americans being treated so poorly?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:35 AM
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14. Silly rabbit, these folks don't vote Republican !!
... that's why they're being treated as less-than-human !

When's the last time any of them was at a $10,000-a-plate Bush fundraiser ? They would have been evac'd on SUNDAY if they had their autopgraphed George W. luncheon ticket stub ...

:mad:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:10 AM
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12. The plan wasn't to help them. The plan was to keep them from the media n/t
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:38 AM
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15. The plan is genocide.
After seeing the actions of the government this week, I've no doubt it's genocide.

But, there will never be enough dead to satisfy their craven needs.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:11 AM
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20. That's the only plausible explanation left. n/t
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:16 AM
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22. OMG They CAN'T be serious!
msnbc article says the children all have rashes, 2 women miscarried just last night, it's 125 degrees in the center of the crowd, people are collapsing but the health workers were already taken out.

And this says NOTHING of the Convention Center!

OMG
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:22 AM
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24. Scanner last night said a woman was giving birth..
at some street intersection..they never did follow up on it. I can only imagine what happened to her and the baby.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:20 AM
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23. There was chaos on the local police scanner last night about buses
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 10:24 AM by rainbow4321
"Start the buses, stop the buses, turn them AROUND, WHERE are the buses?, the Greyhound bus has broke down".

No one seemed to know where the orders were coming from, they were just following them. This was after midnight. Which may be happening at that time cuz the media spotlight is not around as it is during the daytime.

They kept "losing" 45-55 buses at a TIME..how hard is it to keep track of this many buses when they are in a convoy.

They were putting a Nat'l Guard soldier on every other bus.

If you go to DU's GD forum, there is a "scanner" thread with links to local police scanners as well as the FEMA frequency. Interesting to hear things as they happen, as opposed getting the filtered
version.

BTW, can they NOT find some military vehicles to move these folks instead of **Greyhound buses** that seem to be repeatedly breaking down??


There is TOTAL chaos on the ground with the cops/NG...sounded like they had no one in charge--or at least admitting they were in charge, orders were just coming out of no where, no one on the radio seemed to know who was giving them.
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