CA Gov. Schwarzenegger will veto gay marriage legalization bill

[yankeefanatic3]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9247775/

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced Wednesday that he will veto a bill that would allow gay marriages in California.

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I'm planning to contribute as much money as I can to his opponent.

[Name removed]

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[Placebo]

2. What a bastard.

This will do wonders for his sinking approval ratings, I'm sure. :eyes:

[MisterP]

3. oh, go play with your damn nipple clamps, Governor B-Movie

[Skip Intro]

4. in other words, he gives head to the fundie fascists

[Beaver Tail]

5. I woudl LOVE to see him Veto it

and have a 2/3 majority to throw out the Veto

[EC]

12. This is what I was wondering

are their enough to overturn the veto?

[Mister Mark]

23. No

It only passed 41-35 in the Assembly.

[EC]

27. Damn.. n/t

[Beaver Tail]

35. Damn

[Endangered Specie]

49. No, not even close...

the bill didnt pass the last time it was tried.

[DanCa]

6. Anyone who took that walking steriod heap at his word for shame.

Poor Gray Davis. Arnie is typical repuke swill.

[TroubleMan]

7. He can't even fucking spell "veto."

He thought it was a foot problem.

"Mahreah....what happened to your foot? It looks like you got V-TOE!!"

[IndyJones]

9. Maybe they'll put it on the CA ballot again.

In 2000, 60% of CA voters said no to gay marriage in CA. It doesn't seem to be a partisan issue in CA. Most voters in CA are dems, so they voted against it, too.

[TroubleMan]

10. Actually I was not trying to make a valid point.

I was just making a stupid joke.

[yankeefanatic3]

11. No no no! They didn't say no to it in CA!

The media spin will make u think that..Proposition 22 only said CA would not recognize gay marriages from other states

[losdiablosgato]

36. This is a quote from Prop 22

Proposition 22, approved in a public vote in 2000, stated that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California". Sorry the the governor is following the voiced will of the people. If you and they do not like it I would suggest a new referendum.

[ronnykmarshall]

42. So let's see

if the public approved a mesure that said "only white people will be allowed to own land in the state of California" would you say the same thing?

[losdiablosgato]

38. This is the whole text of Prop 22

This initiative measure is submitted to the people in accordance with the provisions of Article II, Section 8, of the California Constitution.

This initiative measure adds a section to the Family Code; therefore, new provisions proposed to be added are printed in italic type to indicate that they are new.



PROPOSED LAW

SECTION 1. This act may be cited as the "California Defense of Marriage Act."

SECTION 2. Section 308.5 is added to the Family Code, to read:

308.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.

[AlCzervik]

8. Of course! Pandering to his base, well his fake base

his real base is anybody corporate. FU Gropenfuher!

[Tikki]

13. yeah, yeah...he travels all over the country trying to get more....

....business and industry to move to CA.....

....and here would be a chance to serve an exclusive matrimony industry that could bring millions of dollars and a lot of good will to our State.

But no..

.....he is one stupid so and so.



Tikki

[Quetzal]

14. And the Log-Cabiners

actually thought he was "pro-gay".

Mutherfucker can go to steroid hell for all I care.

[ToolTex]

18. But we all know that LogCabiners are insane.

I don't care how articulate Andrew Sullivan is. All he proves is that it is possible to be both articulate and insane. What is not possible is to be Gay, sane, and Rethuglican.

[nsd]

51. I'm not sure Andrew Sullivan is still a Republican /nt

[baby_mouse]

15. Imagine my huge surprise

A gay-positive republican, tee hee. Isn't that how he got the dems there to vote for him?

[mitchum]

16. Seems like somebody is trying to put a great deal of distance...

between his present day self and his rent boy younger days.

Oh...I almost forgot...that Teutonic lowlife can go fuck himself

[Robert Oak]

17. asshole n/t

[bertha katzenengel]

19. "Out of respect for the will of the people" -- those people elected the

assembly and senate that just passed the legislation. :eyes:

A few "man on the street" snips from the L.A. Times (registration might be required) http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-090705voices_lat,0,7720804,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[ronnykmarshall]

43. Here's a lulu

Computer consultant Pankaj Deshpande, a 30-year-old who lives and works in San Francisco, said that he was raised to believe that "marriage is between a man and a woman."

"I'm against gay marriage," he said, as he strolled the city's Financial District during Wednesday's chilly lunch hour. "It's abnormal. It's not a natural thing."

He was on his way to Folsom street to get a blow job at Folsom Gulch bookstore and video arcade.

Not that I would know about places like that you understand!

[bertha katzenengel]

56. Ha!

:hi: Ronny

[arewenotdemo]

20. Cheers to his Nazi-enabling wife!

Pariah.

[ronnykmarshall]

45. Poor Maria ...

She wanted to be First Lady of California so she could be like her Aunt Jackie.

Now she's become Barbara or Laura Bush.

How the hell can she sleep at night?

[zanne]

50. I'm sure "poor Maria" is quite happy...

She's getting plenty of attention; she's always been an attention junkie.

[leesa]

21. Shame on him!

[Baconfoot]

22. Good news! Now less people will hang up when I make calls for the CA dems

Maybe pissed off Californians will come out and vote against most of the propositions in the upcoming special election. (There are one or two which are ok.)

Whoopee!

[marshall]

24. Take it to the people!

The legislature should take it to the people and let them vote on it! And remember it the next time they vote for governor!

[losdiablosgato]

37. They did vote on it, the anti gay force won

Proposition 22, approved in a public vote in 2000, stated that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognised in California".

[Baconfoot]

53. They passed it in MARCH of 2000.

That just shows that if you want to get your crazy right-wing agenda through in California, do it when people aren't voting.

[losdiablosgato]

54. So. The majority of the people who cared voted against gay marriage

[IndyJones]

59. Why are people making this a dem vs rep thing? CA is mainly dem and

they voted against it. If they think the vote will change five years later, why not put it on the ballot again?

[uncertainty1999]

25. "Moderate Republican" -- MY ASS! n/t

[Laelth]

26. It's only a matter of time ...

Arnie and the rest of the thugs can act like Neanderthals all they want, but our society is becoming more and more accepting of gays (thank goodness) and less willing to discriminate against them. That this bill passed in the Cali. legislature is just a foreshadowing of progress to come.

In a world where everything seems to be getting worse, at least on this front, I'm happy to report that things are getting better (regardless of what Arnie does, really).

:dem:

-Laelth

[Neshanic]

28. So Arnies "special friends" that he had in the 70's may be mad.

It's strange how some people forget the little "favors" that were bestowed upon him, and he gave, when he was a nobody but a big musclehead that broke spoken english.

[cyr330]

29. Fuck Him

That Nazi groper has a lot of nerve telling anybody what to do.

[regnaD kciN]

30. What else would you expect...

...from someone who once stated that "gay marriage should be between a man and a woman"...? :crazy:

Sometimes I think that the simple act of appending an (R) to one's name is enough to drop one's IQ about fifty points.

[IntravenousDemilo]

31. Well, THIS is interesting...

"The Republican governor had indicated previously that he would veto the bill, saying the debate over same-sex marriage should be decided by voters or the courts."

Or the courts? Or...the...courts...? As in, those "activist judges" so despised by strict constructionist right-wingers? Aren't these the same nincompoops who keep saying issues like equal marriage should be decided by the legislative branch of government, that these "moral" issues are too important to be left to the courts and belong to the elected representatives of the people?

Oh, the not-entirely-unexpected hypocrisy of it all!

[JerseygirlCT]

32. Don't know if this is true, but I heard this morning that one of

his reasons was because -- wait for it -- he wants the courts to decide.

[Ravenseye]

33. Damn Activist Governors

If activist judges can't interpret the law, which is their job, then activist governors should'nt be able to veto laws either.

[lumberingbear]

34. Hypocrite!!!

[HockeyMom]

39. So Called Christian Organizations,

i.e., Concerned Women for America, Family Research Council, etc., are posting on their websites their usual rants about zygotes and gays. Where is the "concern" for the victims of Katrina? Buried down at the bottom of their websites.

Didn't Jesus call for caring for the poor, the sick, the hungry, the disadvantaged? These people have no clue, absolutely no clue.

[Initech]

40. Screw Ahnuld. I didnt vote for him!

[katty]

41. FU Arnold! Go back to Austria and flex your muscles

America, and especially LA gave this PEA BRAIN EVERYTHING -- now he pulls this crap is an uber-progressive state

[olddad56]

44. If his wife had a brain, she'd veto his marriage

[ronnykmarshall]

46. I just faxed this to the stick.

First Lady Maria Shriver
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]


Dear Ms. Shriver,

I am disgusted today. I am disgusted at what your husband has done.

Your family has stood for years as champions of civil and equal rights. Your Uncle Ted has always stood by and protected the rights of gays and lesbians not just in his state, but in the entire nation.

How can you stand by as member of the Kennedy family and watch your husband deny the rights of people to marry?

When your husband ran for governor, you tried to convince voters that he was a “different” kind of Republican. Just what is that difference Ms. Shriver? I don’t see any difference from the knife he stabbed in my back than ones from the likes of other homophobes in country.

Will you please tell your Uncle Ted to have a long talk with your husband? He could learn a LOT from a man of real compassion and not one that has to make sure the he still has the support of the bigots in this state.

Next June when gay pride month comes around, tell your husband not to bother signing a proclamation like he did this year. We’ve seen what really thinks about us.

Ronny K. Marshall

[olddad56]

47. that is very good. I hope it reaches her eyes, but I don't it will.

[Endangered Specie]

48. why the hell havent they started a RECALL yet?!

Get rid of him, pass another bill and try again.

[cyr330]

52. How ironic

I know so many gays here in San Francisco who voted for him. They are sure squealing about it now. Schwarzenegger claimed to be a moderate, and they were too happy to believe him. Never mind that he was buddy-buddy with fuck face who's squatting in the White House. They actually believed him to be a moderate! I wonder, had he claimed to be a cloven hooved sow would they have believed him? Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. . . . Too bad that we all have to suffer for their idiocy.

[Tesha]

55. *NEVER* vote for a Republican. NEVER EVER.

No matter what they say, no matter what they do.

And a few tax cuts aren't worth the shredding of the US Constitution,
the loss of your rights, or maybe even your life.

Tesha

[DuaneBidoux]

57. Explain why he can keep getting fucked by a Kennedy?

That's what I don't understand. Has Maria Shriver completely sold her soul out? How can she stomach this guy?

[gate of the sun]

58. Of course he will

even though he said he was for it....it really doesn't fit into the republican agenda .

[Barkley]

60. Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Coleman - nt