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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:00 PM
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Ophelia is now a hurricane.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200516_wind.html

Computer models are confused, but do not show it to be any danger. At this time it is barely a CAT 1.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:05 PM
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1. Yet another thing to be overly fearful of.
Talking to a friend, we noticed that Ophelia scares us much more than Katrina did at this point. I live north of Houston and would not have evacuated if Katrina had come our way - which would have been a mistake, since she wreaked devastation as far as 100 miles north after landfall.

Now, I'm shaking in my boots, making sure I have my cat carriers, planning on which route to take, etc. And this one isn't even trending our way.

Like 9-11 had us jumping at every loud noise, we'll be jumping at every little weather disturbance.

Only this time, it won't be to Bush's advantage, because the main reason we're so fearful is because of his ineptitude.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:10 PM
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2. I did that over hurricanes for about 25 years.
That's how long I lived in N.O., and on the MS Gulf coast. During those years I kept a close eye on the weather during hurricane season and made sure my hurricane kit was up to date (Fresh batteries, fresh matches, etc.) and stayed jumpy until winter came.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:38 PM
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4.  You're based in reality. Between the troops in Iraq and in NOLA
who is left to handle another landfall of a hurricane?
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eeper69 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:06 PM
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10. "Yet another thing to be overly fearful of."
Keep driving north of Austin then, because we're FULL with Katrina victims. No hotels/motels/apts for miles.
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ender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:12 PM
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3. its path is nowhere near landfall...
of course it could decide to obliterate NC.... but thats not for another 10 days or so...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:09 PM
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12. How about a direct hit on DC
You never know?

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:31 PM
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17. hey...there are some us good people here in DC! too!
onenote
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:35 PM
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19. Well maybe it could be
very specific has to where it hits. Like maybe just around Pennsylvania Ave?

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:55 PM
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23. my office is on Pennsylvania Avenue (a few blocks from the WH)
but that's okay, I'll telecommute!

onenote

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:45 PM
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5. you mean we're already up to "O"?
What happens if we get to Z and there are still more hurricanes coming?
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:48 PM
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6. I was wondering the same thing
What in the heck happened to L, M, and N?

If we make it up to Hurricane Raul or Stephanie, do you think that the powers that be will FINALLY admit there's a climate problem?
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:54 PM
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8. L, M and N
L was Lee, didn't last long or go anywhere.

M - Maria is drifting and dying in the North Atlantic. A pain for shipping, no threat to land

N - Nate is annoying Bermuda, but not too serious.
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420inTN Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:59 PM
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9. Lee, Maria, and Nate stayed out in the Mid-Atlantic
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 05:04 PM by 420inTN
However, according this site: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at2005.asp

Maria and Nate are still out there.

edited to fix link
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:21 PM
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13. Me, too!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:53 PM
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7. OKAY - About Hurricane Naming
They don't use letters Q, U, X, Y or Z because there are too few names beginning with those letters.

If we reach V and still have more storms, we start using the Greek alphabet - Alpha, Beta, Gamma...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:08 PM
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11. Maybe they switch from people to animals.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 05:09 PM by NCevilDUer
Hurricane Aardvark
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:23 PM
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14. Hmm... or ....vegetables!
Hurricane Tomato
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:41 AM
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36. Hurricane Asparagus spears the South Florida coast
While Hurricane Celery stalks the Bahamas...


:think:
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:04 PM
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38. LOL...... no-one would evacuate for hurricane asparagus!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:54 AM
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37. How about body parts
that could be fun AND educational....ok I think it's time for my meds.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:39 AM
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25. Thanks for that!
I really needed something like "Hurricane Aardvark" to refresh my
weary eyes after reading the rest of the morning's news ...

:thumbsup:
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:59 AM
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26. Here are the remaining names for this season
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml

Phillippe
Rita
Stan
Tammy
Vince
Wilma

After that they start with Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta....etc.

So, we have six more named storms before going Greek.

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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:36 AM
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31. What about Xerxes, Yves and Zoey?
Why no X, Y, Z?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:40 AM
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32. There are very few names that start with X, Y, and Z.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 09:41 AM by Endangered Specie
and if names for them got retired it wouldnt work out well. Besides, the average season doesnt have more than ten or so named storms.

(they also skip Q and U)
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:38 AM
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35. so Quentin and Ulrich are out of the running...
There are probably other cultures we could tap for a bounty of Q, U, X, Y, and Z names.

Might have to, in fact. Is it just me, or are there a lot more storms nowadays than there used to be?
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mouyard Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:03 PM
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39. # of Hurricanes & Tropical Storms (June 1st - September 9th) (1985-2005)
Year - Hurricanes & Tropical Storms
2005 - 15
2004 - 9
2003 - 9
2002 - 7
2001 - 5
2000 - 5
1999 - 6
1998 - 6
1997 - 5
1996 - 8
1995 - 12
1994 - 4
1993 - 6
1992 - 1
1991 - 5
1990 - 9
1989 - 7
1988 - 7
1987 - 4
1986 - 4
1985 - 5
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:20 AM
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33. I think you have found out why!
Xerxes, Xerox, Xanadu....OK we are now tapped out on X names!

I think they say in that link somewhere that XYZ and some others aren't used because of the difficulty in finding names. And if Hurricane Xerox was a killer storm, then they would retire the name and we are left rotating Xerxes and Xanadu. Of course, what are the odds of getting to X in the list?




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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:25 PM
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15. Shit.
Now my favorite gaming center definitely won't be able to get insurance till it and Nate pass. The rule is that no insurance can be given while a tropical storm or hurricane is brewing. Why? Well, it's a fraud issue I'd assume.

But more importantly, we here in Central FL have gotta watch out. The county over was out of school mandatorily today, and we may be out soon. God Bless the Gulf Coast if the Hurricane makes an odd turn there.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:34 PM
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18. Ophelia rained on us
for 3 days before it moved up to where it is now. It was just a tiny bit blustery but we were gloomy and rainy for 3 days. If it decides to strengthen and head back (like the one last year - forget if Jeanne or Frances), it hope to heck it speeds up.
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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:35 PM
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21. Where in FL are you?
Over the weekend, we got terrential rains while traveling in Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:03 AM
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27. In Palm Beach County.
The weather is absolutely gorgeous here right now though. That storm is 200 miles to the north of us and it is sucking the heat and moisture right out of the atmosphere behind it. Our daytime and nighttime temperatures have dropped 10 degrees. It won't last long though. :-)
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:53 PM
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22. If it hits Florida
we'll see if Bush Co will hold local and state government (read brother Jeb) responsible.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:29 PM
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16. Oh how I hate these hurricanes that
wander around not knowing where they want to go. They keep you in suispense for many days.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 05:35 PM
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20. still pretty unpredictable
the National Hurricane Center forecasters think its likely to be stationary for awhile, but eventually they think it will strengthen and start moving. Where? That's unclear, but there are some computer models that show it moving more westerly than others (which could mean a potential threat to the Gulf). Here's what the 5 pm analysis said:

THE GFDL MODEL IS NO LONGER AN OUTLIER IN SHOWING OPHELIA TURNING
WESTWARD BY 4-5 DAYS...HOWEVER IT IS BY FAR THE MOST AGGRESSIVE ONE
DOING SO. THE DYNAMICAL CONSENSUS FORECAST SHOWS A CLOCKWISE LOOP
BUT DOES NOT TAKE OPHELIA NEARLY SO FAR WEST AS THE GFDL. SINCE
THE TRACK MODELS HAVE BEEN FLIP-FLOPPING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
RUNS...I FEEL IT IS BEST TO TAKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND ONLY
SHOW A SLIGHT WESTWARD MOVEMENT LATE IN THE PERIOD. WE NEED TO SEE
WHETHER SUBSEQUENT MODEL RUNS ARE MORE CONSISTENT IN SHOWING THE
WESTWARD TRACK AT THE LONGER RANGE.


Keep an eye on this puppy....hopefully it won't be a problem, but these things are hard to predict.

onenote
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:27 PM
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24. But then Katrina was only a 1 when it hit Florida.
There is a lot of global-warming-warmed water out there to give these storms some extra energy.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:08 AM
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28. Check this out
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:19 AM
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29. Nymph, in thy orisons ...
... be all my sins remembered.

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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:24 AM
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30. Playing "Red Spot" on us.
very, very weird.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:28 AM
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34. Saw on the afternoon news ...
I have been keeping an eye on this storm, as I've not yet moved out of Florida.

During the noon weather report today (the 9th), the weatherman said that Ophelia is going to make a small loop and then head for Georgia. Watch out up there!
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