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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:56 AM
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Support for Bush reaches low among central Ohioans (down 20% - 2 years)

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050912/NEWS01/509120306/1002

Support for Bush reaches low among central Ohioans
Approval down 20 percent in past two years

COLUMBUS (AP) - Central Ohioans' support for President Bush and the war in Iraq have reached their lowest points since the onset of the war, according to a poll commissioned by The Columbus Dispatch.
Bush's approval rating in the Columbus area sank to 41 percent, down 20 points from just after the United States invaded Iraq in 2003. Support for his handling of the Iraq war dropped 30 points to 37 percent in that time.

Sandra Taylor, 58, of Hilltop, said she supported the country's initial involvement in Iraq, but now she wonders what good it's doing.

"We're spending billions of dollars on a country that doesn't want us there," she said, adding that with the removal of Saddam Hussein, the United States should be pulling out troops.

...

"To sacrifice American lives for a cause that is still undefined is disturbing," said poll respondent Jennifer McNally, 35, of Columbus.



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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:58 AM
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1. This from the one state that swung it for Bush
Spare me :nopity:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:01 AM
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2. Well some of us
think that Ohio had help swinging for Bush. :grr:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:49 AM
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11. agreed
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:56 AM
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16. As an Ohioan I have but one thing to say about Bush
Taft and Blackwell gave him a lot of help.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:26 PM
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28. Right. But they are not getting the blame.
Normal folks are. This thread is proof.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:16 AM
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6. And some percentage actually thought the "news" was reporting the truth
Silly them. There are some, who still misguidedly believe that to be the case. Of course, they mostly watch Faux, so they are doubly misinformed.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:09 AM
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18. This is the state where Dems
stood in line, in the rain, for up to ten hours, just to get shrub out of there. Only to find out later that their votes weren't even counted.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:02 AM
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3. Little symapathy for these people have I
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:36 AM
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9. Yoda? Is that you?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:04 AM
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4. With a Repuke Governor, Attorney General, controlled house & senate
Plus Federal level House control and Both Senators,

They ended up with a very slim margin of victory over Kerry. This, after making sure the "urban" areas had minimal voting machines (while "rural" areas had more than enough), plus moving the voting locations around.

The anchor which is the ineptitude of the Bush misadministration needs to be tied around the necks of state-level Repukes . . .
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:05 AM
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5. If only they had done their research about the oil and military bases.
But no, they had to put their heads in the sand and thought this would be over soon.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:16 AM
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7. Hey, you stupid nitwits!
Why didn't you do some serious, educational research before voting for this asshole? Plenty of us did and knew his motives for starting a war. No you ignorant voters have made us all suffer because of it.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:28 AM
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8. Hah? Franklin county went for Kerry, not Bush.
Why are you assuming these people voted for Bush?
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:40 AM
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10. Suburban Columbus is VERY red.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 07:43 AM by trogdor
And there's LOTS of it. I used to live there, so I know this for a fact. I remember there was much jubilation when Reagan defeated Carter in '80.

For a little background, my high school had a lousy football team, but won the state championship in golf every year. That should tell you what kind of high school exists in the shadow of Wendy's international headquarters.

Columbus is the prototype for the generic "everything looks the same" Wal*Mart/Applebee's/Pizza Hut city. It really doesn't have a soul of its own the way Cleveland or Cincinnati does. Corporate America (Proctor and Gamble is based in Cincinnati) uses Columbus as a test market for everything from laundry soap to breakfast cereal to ladies' shavers.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:22 PM
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27. I'm not castigating the entire state of Ohio......
I was referring to the woman who said she supported the war originally but now she doesn't.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:11 AM
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:13 AM
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19. I hate to keep repeating myself, but
Dems stood in line for up to ten hours trying to vote. Many had the doors slammed in their face because it became "too late" to keep the voting booths open.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:31 AM
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25. Yes, you did...
Here at DU, instead of blaming everybody in Ohio, let's admit that Blackwell delivered the state to Bush. Yes, many of you did wait for hours in long lines to vote. Even after your wait, many votes were not counted.

That's why it's hard for me to rejoice at the news that any state is suffering, whether the state as a whole went for Bush or not. There are other people in those states, people who DID NOT vote for Bush, and who tried desperately to get the creep out of office.

I'll celebrate the news that any state turns blue, regardless of what has gone on in the past. Even the reddest state has it's spots of blue, and it's hard enough for the liberals to have to live in those states; when they come here, let's not make them feel even worse.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:57 AM
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12. A state hit so hard economically by bush** and his crony thieves but
still voted strongly for the guy who was most likely screw them. I too think that Diebold and Wally had a lot to do with the outcome, but then again I know for a fact that there were (and probably still are) a lot of idiots in Ohio who would vote for the guy even now.

Too bad their ignorance affects so many people.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:59 AM
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13. "We're spending billions of dollars on a country...
that doesn't want us there."


>> THUD <<


And they couldn't have had this blinding flash of brilliance 10 months ago? My god, some people are almost too stupid to breathe.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:14 AM
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:01 AM
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17. Roflmao!!!.............Tom's Shell has got that right!!...Love the truth!!
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 09:01 AM by goforit
:rofl:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:16 AM
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20. Riddle me this, Ohioans,
yesterday I was at a church picnic and a transplanted Ohioan said that Ohio used to be very blue, lots of union, blue-collar workers there. Then all (or most) of the good union jobs went to so-called "right to work" states and some--who knows how many--workers went too. (yeah, who don't know that?) And now much of Ohio is red.

But looks to me like, the people who'd be left in Ohio would be a small number of well-to-do people and the rest of the people working at WalMart or some other McJobs (a microcosm of the USA). So how come Ohio's red now? Are these poorly paid workers voting for Repubs because of abortions and gay marriages (as they tend to do in some states)?
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:28 AM
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21. These are the fuckers that gave us Bush, no? n/t
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:57 AM
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22. no it's not, diebold told me so!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:53 AM
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23. Sad to say, we have one RW * supporter in my family...............
my BIL's mom has always been a churchgoing Bushbot. She lives in (drumroll) Toledo, OH. Fortunately everybody else among us is true-blue liberal.

I haven't talked to her since last Christmas. I am curious whether she might have begun to doubt her Misleader. I shall see in December.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:14 AM
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24. You know what...
Ohio is a really rural state....

has always been that way...

Although the northern area, from Youngstown to Toledo is Democrat, the rest of the state has been growing much faster as outsourcing and economic downturns occurred in the industrialized north...

Think of Ohio as a microcosm of the country....

So, because there are a bunch of "yahoos" down south who think that god created the earth 7000 years ago, feel strongly that Abortion is murder and also feel that gay folks are an abomination that the rest of us are some sort of stereotypical Red State knuckle dragging' heathens...

Well, the first rule of thumb that I learned from my experience with a lot of business and political people is that you respect you enemy's base...

Go after the enemy, but respect the his or her base...

After what I have read here about how many seem to feel about Ohioans, me being one, I am truly disappointed. If I was a person who was conflicted on some issues, such as faith based issues, and was economically well off, wouldn't it be understandable that those issues would resonate more with me?

It is just childish, immature behavior in this and other threads that makes me believe we have a long way to go before we can win back the majority in this country....

And think about this, if you care to read what I, a life long democrat who lives in Ohio has to say, why did it take a natural disaster and the bungling of the delivery of basic goods and services to devastated people to get the people to turn on Bush......

Is that indicative of a good solid message.....

I apologize for my previous comment that was deleted, I had just woke up, and I just hit the tipping point with the name calling...

Oh and one more thing, isn't damning all Ohio for the acts of and beliefs of some just like Falwell or Robertson damning New Orleans because of the supposedly un holy acts that occurred there over the years??????

Before you dismiss me, let me tell you I was the treasurer of a major County's party Dem's, I have been and still am the treasurer for several democratic candidates, I served on the Board of Elections in one country, I was a candidate myself and have been active in the democratic party since 1978.....

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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:58 AM
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26. 2006 black box voting says 100% favor Bush!
It's who gets to count the votes, that wins.
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