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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:52 PM
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WSJ: Michael Brown is resigning as head of FEMA,
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 02:18 PM by Purveyor
Michael Brown is resigning as head of FEMA, according to people familiar with the matter.

Full story to follow shortly.

http://online.wsj.com/public/us

From the AP:

Embattled FEMA Director Mike Brown Resigns

(09-12) 12:05 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --


Federal Emergency Management Agency director Mike Brown said Monday he has resigned "in the best interest of the agency and best interest of the president," three days after losing his onsite command of the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.


"The focus has got to be on FEMA, what the people are trying to do down there," Brown told The Associated Press.

-snip-

"I'm turning in my resignation today," Brown said. "I think it's in the best interest of the agency and the best interest of the president to do that and get the media focused on the good things that are going on, instead of me."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/12/national/w120059D53.DTL
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:53 PM
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1. Let's find out what his retirement package is like. I bet it will
be shocking.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:37 PM
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87. Maybe 31million??
Isn't that what he handed out to win Flin 04?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:39 PM
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91. More likely just a 'finder's fee" of like $3.1 million, and that is
probably offshore in numbered accounts.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:32 PM
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115. In Grand Cayman w/ the rest of the GOP/corporate accounts
nt
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:43 PM
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96. His new job will be in private sector
making millions from government!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:25 PM
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114. The Arabian Horse Lobby...........
just gained a valuable ally. My guess would be that "Brownie" will be snapped up by one of the private security companies, the mercenaries, and be given a nice, fat job sucking in government contracts. With his extensive knowledge of security issues, he's a shoe in. :eyes:
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:43 PM
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155. Speaking of Mercenaries, This is Scary - Write Congress.org, media!!!
Overkill in New Orleans
By Jeremy Scahill and Daniela Crespo, AlterNet
Posted on September 12, 2005

http://www.alternet.org/story/25320/

Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans. Some of the mercenaries say they have been "deputized" by the Louisiana governor; indeed some are wearing gold Louisiana state law enforcement badges on their chests and Blackwater photo identification cards on their arms. They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and have been given the authority to use lethal force. Several mercenaries we spoke with said they had served in Iraq on the personal security details of the former head of the U.S. occupation, L. Paul Bremer and the former U.S. ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte.

"This is a totally new thing to have guys like us working CONUS (Continental United States)," a heavily armed Blackwater mercenary told us as we stood on Bourbon Street in the French Quarter. "We're much better equipped to deal with the situation in Iraq."
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:45 AM
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161. or maybe, he will go back to being a PROFESSOR oh wait....
that was one of his "make believe" jobs hahahahahaha:rofl: :rofl:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:10 PM
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107. Super lobby man
for everything disaster related. Sit on a few boards and advisory boards.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:53 PM
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2. Hmmm...
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:54 PM
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3. The House Of Cards Just Started Falling Apart
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 01:54 PM by berni_mccoy
:popcorn: :woohoo:
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:54 PM
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4. That must have been one STIFF margarita
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Lubernaut Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:11 PM
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134. Ha!
Good one.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:54 PM
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5. Only if we see the headline..
Bush resigns! Orders his entire administration and fellow Congressional Republicans to resign IMMEDIATELY before his resignation!
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:04 PM
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36. Seriously, I'll have an orgasm!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #36
54. Hey! No sex threads allowed!
:silly:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #36
140. I'll have TWO -- orgasms or margaritas (you can help me choose)!
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:24 PM
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70. Begala nailed him
Argued that if he were truly a strong, decisive leader, he would have fired Brownie. He's still a weakling and this can't make his numbers any better. Brownie leaving to spare the misAdministration is too little, too late.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:08 PM
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120. That's The Way It's ALWAYS Been... "Too Little, Too Late".
Bush didn't have the guts to admit making an error and just FIRE the incompetent son of a bitch... and 'Brownie' had to make the decision FOR him. Demonstrating once again that our glorious leader is completely OUT OF TOUCH and incapable of making smart and informed decisions.

His aids even had to make a DVD of news-clips for Bush to come up to speed with with the AVERAGE AMERICAN already knew. (Apparently doing it himself... or even READING is just too difficult for the chimp.)
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:50 AM
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162. Oh wait a lovely day that would be but.....
unfortunately, evil is prevailing.We have three more years of oppression I'm afraid.:-(
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:54 PM
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6. May this be the first of many, many rolling heads
:puke: on you, Mr. Brown.
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GaDemo Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:57 PM
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14. He knew he was
toast.More rolling heads anyone.:bounce:
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
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7. Confirmed on Fox
Yeah, I know. But as a Briton I can only watch C-span on crappy webstream, and no British news channel is covering the Supreme Court hearing
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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22. 'Ya can stream c-span3? Tis the only way we watch it over here.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
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8. Well the respectable thing would have been for him to be
relieved of his duty, or better yet, not to be hired in the first place. Still, given the situation, it's the right thing to do.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
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This is the only way out
The BFEE couldn't leave him around. It would be way too much of a distraction.

Get rid of him, place all the blame on him, and move on. Brilliant political stratgy.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:48 PM
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156. They need distractions with the information coming out on the fate FEMA
has planned for the survivors of Katrina, Bushco and Brown.

This site is getting 1.4 hits per minute and according to thread seems to be linked everywhere, even the MSM and NPR has contacted the writer about the FEMA Concentration Camps and though this particular one cost an enormous amount to set up, after the incredible number of people visiting the site, FEMA decided NOT to send 1,000 NOLA Detainees to this particular FEMA camp:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp

I'm extremely depressed to report that things seem to only be getting sadder concerning the people so devastatingly affected by Katrina last week.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
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9. CNN Breaking: Confirmed That Brown Resigned
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 01:57 PM by TahitiNut
Wolf looks sad. Jeff Greenfield: "least surprising news" "stuff flows downhill"
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202 456 Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
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10. Just heard this on KABC7-TV
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
Original message
Well the respectable thing would have been for him to be
relieved of his duty, or better yet, not to be hired in the first place. Still, given the situation, it's the right thing to do.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:55 PM
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11. Does that mean Brownie will get his bennies?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:56 PM
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12. First one down, many more to go, imo
Chertoff should be next in coordination with the #2 and #2 people of FEMA.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:56 PM
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13. Does that mean Brownie will get his bennies?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:57 PM
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15. The respectable thing would have been for * to
relieve Brown of his duty, or better yet, not to hire him in the first place. Still, given the situation, it's the right thing to do.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:35 PM
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85. are you kidding?
*ush would NEVER have fired brownie. that would look too much like he was.....WRONG, and you know he never admits that he was wrong.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:43 PM
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94. Well, it's not like I expect it from this bunch of crooks and liars. n/t
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:57 PM
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16. Too little, too late
And too much suffering because of him.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #16
31. That was my initial response
The (horrific) damage has been done!
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:56 AM
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163. I agree. It's not like his resignation will bring all those people ...
back who lost their lives. I will not forget about them.EVER.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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17. Mike Brown has resigned from FEMA
breaking news on CNN... no link yet
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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18. I would say it is at least a month too late
He should not have been the head of FEMA in the first place.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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19. Did he say: "You won't have Brownie to kick around anymore"? n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:01 PM
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27. Yer doin' a great job, Brownie!
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #27
81. The "smoking gun" statement of far the idiot is disconnected from reality.
This clip should be played over as often as the MSM played the Swiftboat lies except this half-witted utterance is unbelievably true.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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20. I am guessing his family is suddenly demanding his full attention!
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM by yellowcanine
:sarcasm:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #20
55. actually,I'm thinking some part of the fund raising
arm of the party. :grr:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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21. Mike Brown just resigned!
On CNN right now!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 PM
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23. The whole Bush loyalty thing is overrated
The loyalty is TO Bush, with not as much loyalty coming FROM Bush.

Operation "Protect the Baby Bush" continues, and Mike Brown had to go to fulfill the mission.

Protect the little baby! Protect the little child! I'm sure he's eating a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich somewhere right now.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:59 PM
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24. What about the idiot that hired this imbecile? When is he resigning? n/t
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. Where is the outrage?
Don, the entire nation should be asking that.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #29
157. The Outrage is continuing keep your eye on this ball:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

Do you think I'm over-reacting to the idea of being bussed hundreds of miles from what I am familiar with to a place miles from civilization and from which I cannot leave?

or

do you think I'm over-reacting to the fact that federal agencies are treating people who have done nothing but lose all they ever owned to a natural disaster as if they are criminals waiting to make their next nefarious move

your story reads like a 'red dawn' type fiction novel. surreal, indeed. i've been expecting this type of dress rehearsal for a long time, as many of us tin-foil hatters have. i feel it's only going to get worse, sadly.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:41 PM
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116. That idiot was Joe Allbaugh, who KNEW the resume was a lie
He was a friend of Brown's since college room mate days, and knew damn well the resume was mostly lies and padding. I mean Brown didn't even account for the last TEN YEARS before Allbaugh hired him - which was the Arabian Horse Association gig. And what about those IDIOTS in the Senate. Not a one of them evidently looked at the resume and wondered WTF this clown had been doing for the past ten years! ! !

SAME FOR THE MEDIA! ! ! All this information was out there when he was first brought to FEMA as Deputy Director! ! ! I mean doesn't one wonder if someone claims a law degree but no employment. as a lawyer! ! ! I wonder if he ever even passed a bar exam. He was hired right after law school by one firm, which let him go after a year. That is exactly the pattern for a law graduate who fails the bar the first time, and the firm keeps him or her on long enough to try it a second time - then they are OUT.

The FBI did do a background check on him and knew he'd gotten the boot from the law firm - saw it elsewhere on DU earlier this week - so did Ashcroft deepsix the report, or edit it or what?!?!
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:59 PM
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25. Gee
why would they fire him? He was doing a "heckuva" job.
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:59 PM
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26. Hopefully his be just as much of a failure as a lobbyist
which I assume is where he's heading. Just like his mentor and former FEMA director, Joe Allsbaugh. Off to funnel disaster recovery money to all the vultures, aka campaign contributers.


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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:01 PM
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28. Bush sees his ratings in the 30's and shows Brownie "heck of a job" out
the door.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:02 PM
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Graf Orlok Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:02 PM
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32. About time.
He should've been fired instead, however.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:03 PM
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33. Just heard on AAR 2 minutes ago. n/t
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:03 PM
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34. Why? Why?? I thought *bush said "he was doing a heck of a job"
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :rofl: :rofl:
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:04 PM
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35. Halliburton-KBR is next for him. I'd bet $ on it.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:09 PM
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45. You can bet your next paycheck Joe Albaugh's got a job
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 02:15 PM by Penndems
all lined up for Brown - probably the reconstruction of New Orleans, with a nice, fat paycheck to boot. :mad:















(on edit: typo)
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:04 PM
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37. SCAPEGOAT
how far down the ladder @ FEMA will heads roll? how far up the ladder in Homeland Security? Chertoff?

The buck only stops one place, and Scotty confirmed it last week: the President. But rather than DO anything about an emergency, he went to sleep at 9.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:04 PM
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38. OK, how many of the other incompetent cronies will resign and give back
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 02:05 PM by bribri16
our government? Rank-in-file Federal employees, who for the most part, are dedicated public servants, always get the bum rap for being what holds up the bureaucracy when, in fact, it is almost always the incompetent, inexperienced political appointees who are put into the top paying management jobs who fuck up the government. They are usually put in place to do what the administration wants and when Republicans are in charge, their job is usually to find ways to dismantle the Federal departments they head by contracting out most of the services, screwing over civil service rules that protect employees, and generally using the Federal treasury to finance their own boondoggles around the world. I knew one political appointee who traveled around the world taking care of his own investments and business deals under the guise of "official government business" by attending conferences, giving speeches, and taking time off to take care of his personal business interests. God, if the people only really knew what goes on.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:05 PM
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39. OPERATION "SAVE MONKEY'S ASS" developing in full force
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 02:10 PM by Julius Civitatus
Now Bush will appoint Saint Rudy or some other right-wing icon at the head of FEMA, and Karl Rove will play the "Bush-is-the-savior-of-Murka" card.

The media will slowly start reading from Karl's script again.

Watch it unfurl.

:argh:
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:27 PM
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74. Rudy might actually be a good choice for the job.
Therefore, it won't happen. I say it will be Paul Bremer.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:16 PM
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108. Rudy is useless
.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:19 PM
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109. Rudy didn't get a lot of hurricane & flood experience while mayor.
I wouldn't wish him on the people of New Orleans.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:09 PM
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121. I'm with you--Rudy would OVERSHADOW the monkey
...and he cannot abide that, now, can he? It will be some guy who can count the beans but is lousy on TV, and if at all possible, SHORTER than the little monkey....

Besides, from Rudy's perspective, he is making a ton of dough on the speaker circuit alone, to say nothing of his little Guiliani Group he has going. And the reconstruction is fraught with peril. Far better to rest on his NY laurels after the towers, than risk getting up to his ass in alligators in NOLA. We KNOW Halliburton, Blackwater, KBR and all of the crony businesses are going to rape the treasury, and eventually, someone will be called to account.

When they say "Off with his head" Rudy does not want to be under the guillotine!
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:06 PM
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40. CNN reporting that Brown says he's resigning "in the best interests
of FEMA and the President."

Nothing about the best interests of the American people. How typical of this crowd.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:47 PM
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152. Noticed that too.
It's always about THEM, never about THE COUNTRY.
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LibinMo Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:07 PM
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41. Wolf Blitzer is reporting Brown's resignation on CNN now
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:07 PM
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42. How kind of him to spare Bush the agony of firing him
which would be tantamount to admitting he'd--gulp--made a mistake...

Cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet!

:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
rocknation
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:08 PM
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43. Good freaking riddance
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:08 PM
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44. Let me guess
He needs to spend more time with his family.

When does he get the medal of freedom?
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:09 PM
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46. Oh Happy Day
Kyra can take her one dimensional ass with him.

:bounce:
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FDR33 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:10 PM
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47. Heck of a job, Brownie!
Heck, of a job!!
Now get the F out.
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:17 PM
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63. I'll drink to that....
:toast:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:10 PM
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48. HEY! He did NOT say that he, "wanted to spend more time with his Family?
WTF? Does he hate his family? :wtf:

You know, if it's not Black, it's White with these guys!?!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:12 PM
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49. No, he said he wanted to spend more time with his
margaritas.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:12 PM
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50. He still needs to be held accountable for his inactions
and actions that made the situation in New Orleans worse.

Simply resigning isn't good enough.

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boot@9 Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:12 PM
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51. do you think...
edmond will take him back? ha ha.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:12 PM
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52. Lying on your federal government resume is a felony. He should go to jail.
His lying resulted in the deaths of thousands and billions of dollars in destruction.

He committed a felony.

Why no one is suggesting that he be charged is breathtaking.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:13 AM
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158. It's True Brown and Bushco should be charge but the fate of survivors
has to be uppermost in our thoughts and investigations.

FEMA is refusing to reveal to aid groups the locations of thousands of citizens forced out of their homes by "Hurrican Charley", citing "privacy restrictions".

original news source:
FEMA Rule Blocking Aid to Seniors - www.heraldtribune.com

Some elderly citizens forced out of their homes by Hurricane Charley are missing out

on vital help, including meals, transportation and in-home care, because federal officials won't tell government aid groups where they are.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency has temporarily relocated thousands of Charlotte County residents -- many of them senior citizens -- whose homes were destroyed or seriously damaged by the Aug. 13 storm. But, citing federal privacy protection rules, the agency has refused to say who has been relocated, or where they've been sent.

Travis and other officials said their complaints to FEMA officials have gone nowhere. But in response to an inquiry about the problem Tuesday, FEMA deputy federal coordinating officer Brad Gair vowed to find a way to ensure hurricane victims' privacy while getting them access to services.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Where have these people gone??


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread167902/pg9
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:13 PM
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53. Timed to coincide with the Randi Rhodes show, I'm sure
Oooo...and Mike Malloy is filling in. This ought to be good.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:13 PM
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56. Brown = Scapegoat.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 02:14 PM by Akoto
His resignation will be seen by the MSM and the right-wing talkers as an admission of guilt. They'll focus on that to take the heat off the administration.

Of course, things are a little different this time. New Orleans turns into the next Venice while the president continues to vacation and speak before his preselected audiences. People noticed this time, and they're not letting go.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:13 PM
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57. Resigning, huh? Good news, since his boss didn't have the gumption
to fire him.

/not letting the BA off the hook
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:13 PM
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58. Usually they only get kicked out for telling the truth.
This is the first (of many, I hope) resignation for incompetance.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:14 PM
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59. Aaaand heeeee's OUTTA here!
Best thing for America, really. Better to resign in disgrace than to be thrown out on your butt in disgrace.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:15 PM
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60. My pet scapegoat n/t
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:15 PM
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61. The questions to ask now are:
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 02:16 PM by Blue Belle
1) Why was he appointed in the first place?

2) Which underqualified Bush Croney is next in line to be his replacement??

3) How many more disasters do we have to endure before FEMA is purged of Bush whores?

4) When will Bush resign?
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:41 PM
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93. Answers
1. Because he's a Bush loyalist, and they reward their own. The White House (Karl "The Traitor" Rove, no doubt) put pressure on Browne to resign for purely political reasons (e.g., a drag on Bush's poll numbers). It won't help, though. The only way Chimp's poll numbers would go up would be if he RESIGNED.

2. Probably Pat Robertson. :sarcasm: :banghead:

In all seriousness, it'll be another Bush loyalist, because that's how they operate. It won't be anybody who'll actually force The Village Idiot into a position of accountability for something (or someone), or who brings Junior "bad news" that actually forces him to read newspapers or watch cable news channels.

3. Unfortunately, while this crew is in office, too many.

4. When the American people demand it, or when Congress changes hands.
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W2Hague Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:17 PM
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62. Brownie resigns
From an anonymous source-

Brownie stepped down as head of FEMA because it was discovered his daughter's Nanny, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala, was being held against her will in the unheated basement of the family's 9000 square foot home.

When questioned by Local authorities, Brownie allegedly responded to the charges with a sigh, and a shrug of his narrow shoulders.

__________On http://www.bruindesign.com today_____________

A Flash Animation Message from Governor Bush to the al the good, tax-payin' citizens of Murka. Enjoy.


Peace
D.L. Bruin
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:17 PM
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64. What a nice guy! resigned because "in the best interest of the
agengy and the president"

HERE'S THE NBC LINK
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9315184 /


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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:20 PM
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65. CNN Reports Brown resigns
www.cnn.com
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:21 PM
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68. Now if we could just see a domino effect.
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:20 PM
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66. But won't his Resignation be worse for *?
That means * didn't know he did a bad job but Brownie knew he did a bad job. Which means * doesnt know what a bad job looks like.

:wow:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:25 PM
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71. Bush:
"And Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job..."

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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:33 PM
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82. This is TOO Rich
He's gonna commit suicide for *
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:21 PM
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67. Great news!
This should keep the focus on the federal government, which is clearly most at fault.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:23 PM
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69. Probably show up ...
...in a couple years as head of "Bushstapo" charged with responsibility for rounding up domestic political dissenters. And I'd bet he won't be asleep at the switch on this job.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:26 PM
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72. Heh heh heh..."Brownie was resigning anyway"...
Shortly after Brown was recalled to Washington last week, officials close to the FEMA director said he would likely resign. They said that even before Katrina, Brown had been planning on leaving the administration late this fall to go into the private sector.


Big difference now is that the ol' Pony Club won't be the only thing he "forgets" to put on his resume now.

"Say, weren't you FEMA director at one time?"

"Me? Oh hell no! Mike Brown's a pretty common name...I get that all the time! Naw, that wasn't me! Different Mike Brown altogether!"

:rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:27 PM
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73. Well, someone has to take teh fall
And it sure as heck won't be *...
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:28 PM
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75. I thought he was returning to D.C. to prepare
for the next possible disaster, Ophelia. Just another lie.
Now that he's gone, they hope we'll just forget.
Nothing to see here, everything's OK now. Bye, bye.
May heads continue to roll.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:48 PM
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103. "Returning to D.C." , "Resigning to spend more time with
my family" and "Resigning for personal reasons" are Washington-speak for "I can't handle this job any more, I screwed up, so I'm outta here without taking a lot of heat from the press."
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:28 PM
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76. Bush cronies need to be PROSECUTED as well as fired. Evidence against them
is not hard to find, ESPECIALLY in 9/11 "disaster relief".

Why are there 900 vacancies in FEMA? IMO, one of the reasons is that the cronies were DOING the job Dubya gave them--handing out Teapot-Dome-magnitude payoffs to Dubya's business contributors under a largely privatized system. Many who thought FEMA was in a diffferent business had to quit, or were fired.

From http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_bi_ge/sept_11_lax_loans;_ylt=AjDbv7chaVB6LKeFzlF6tkes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY- :

"AP: 9/11 Recovery Loans Loosely Managed (9/9/2005)

By DIRK LAMMERS and FRANK BASS, Associated Press Writers

The government's $5 billion effort to help small businesses recover from the Sept. 11 attacks was so loosely managed that it gave low-interest loans to companies that didn't need terrorism relief „ or even know they were getting it, The Associated Press has found.... "I had nothing here," said Shirla Yam, who runs a clothing store in the former shadows of the twin towers that got a $20,000 grant from a local advocacy group but no federal aid after Sept. 11. "I don't know if I'll be here next month."... And while some at New York's Ground Zero couldn't get assistance they desperately sought, companies far removed from the devastation „ a South Dakota country radio station, a Virgin Islands perfume shop, a Utah dog boutique and more than 100 Dunkin' Donuts and Subway sandwich shops „ had no problem winning the government-guaranteed loans. Dentists and chiropractors in numerous cities, as well as an Oregon winery that sold trendy pinot noir to New York City restaurants also got assistance....

In all, the government provided, approved or guaranteed nearly $4.9 billion in loans, and took credit for saving 20,000 jobs. That would put the average cost of saving a job at about a quarter million dollars each. Of the 19,000 loans approved by the two programs, fewer than 11 percent went to companies in New York City and Washington, according to an AP computer analysis of loan records obtained under the Freedom of Information Act....

SBA officials acknowledged ... the Supplementary Terrorism Activity Relief (STAR), LEFT BANKS ON AN HONOR SYSTEM TO DETERMINE WORTHY LOAN RECIPIENTS. "One lender could have been really strict and specific about the borrower providing the documentation to prove that they were affected by the Sept. 11 attacks, and another banker may not have, or may have had ulterior motives for approving loans," said SBA spokeswoman Carol Chastang. SBA documents obtained by AP show banks had a strong incentive to approve as many loans as possible from the terror program. The banks profited from the interest while incurring little risk because the government guaranteed 75 percent to 85 percent of each loan....

"They had personnel at our conference stand up and say if you cannot find a reason to move the loan over to the STAR program, contact us and we'll help you find a reason to move it over," recalled Tony Wilkinson, president of the National Association of Government Guaranteed Lenders." Thousands of businesses far from the devastation had no trouble getting SBA loans, simply submitting short applications that linked their slow business to the widespread economic fallout caused by Sept. 11. For instance:
--Karl Grimmelmann, general manager of KBFS-AM "Hit Kickin' Country" in Belle Fourche, S.D., borrowed $135,000 from SBA's disaster program after learning about it from a news release. He said his station was forced to pay more money to cover national news and also lost advertisers. "Everybody started holding onto their money, plain and simple," he said.
--Margie Olson, co-owner of the Torii Mor Winery in McMinnville, Ore., said her business needed a $125,000 loan because it couldn't sell high-end pinot noir to Manhattan restaurants that had closed. "Everyone started hitting the heavy stuff," Olson said, laughing.
--Melva Kravitz, co-owner of the Little Dogs Resort & Salon in Salt Lake City that offers boarding and grooming services for small dogs, said people stopped taking vacations and boarding their pets after Sept. 11, requiring her $50,000 loan. "It was awful," she said. "You just couldn't go on."
_Christine Hilty, co-owner of Violettes Boutique on St. Croix in the U.S. Virgin Islands, said the perfume shop lost 60 percent of its business overnight as tourism stopped. She got a $169,500 loan from SBA. "Would we have closed our doors? It was close," she said. "Everyone was afraid to get on a plane. Tourism was totally halted.""
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:30 PM
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77. Brown is a peripheral problem, George's choice of appointees is primary.
George and his bunch need to resign. His vision of government is a failure, his government is a failure. His moral and political values undermine both the security and purpose of our government. He needs to go.

And it doesn't sound as if Brown is admitting his performance was poor, it is just all this negative media attention. :shrug:

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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:31 PM
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78. As Much as I Despised Brown...


As much as I despised Brown, I still respect him more than Bush.

At least Brown had the honor to resign when he realized that he was harming the country more than helping it.

Bush will NEVER be that honorable!
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:21 PM
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112. I have to say, I feel genuine pity for the guy.
He was in way over his head, if only he had had the sense the understand that and realize the consequences. He was scheduled to be the first to be tossed under the bus.
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:31 PM
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79. Today is Monday, September 12
He resigned 2 weeks too late.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:32 PM
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80. Breaking: Brown takes post a Halliburton
That's tomorrow's headline. ;)
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:34 PM
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83. oh no we're not going to have Brownie's leadership for Ophelia!!!
why have you forsaken us Oh Lord?

:spank:
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:34 PM
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84. Now if only W would turn in his resignation...
and Cheney, and Rove, and.... well... all the corrupt assholes in this administration, then we'd be in business!
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:36 PM
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86. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Brown!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:38 PM
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90. On the other hand....
please do!

:evilgrin:
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:37 PM
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88. Brown is the bone thrown to the Wolf
Blitzers, that is. Can we all say scapegoat? See how in charge, responsible, and compassionate our fearless dicator is? :puke: And of course the so-called MSM will praise his "leadership" and let him off the hook. :sarcasm:


:nuke:

What do we do with toxic mold?
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:37 PM
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89. How about "in the best interest of the COUNTRY"!!!??
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:40 PM
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92. Next stop for Brownie: Chairman of the FCC! n/t :)
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:43 PM
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95. And, Bush is heaving a sigh of relief...
Hey Bushboy, if he's doing such a "heck of a job," why don't you do the "refuse to accept your resignation" bit?

Bush hasn't got the "nerve" to fire anyone, because everyone does a better job than he does at anything.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:44 PM
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97. Louisiana negligent homicide or reckless murder charges
Louisiana should charge him with something like negligent homicide, depraved-heart murder, Reckless Murder, or manslaughter.

Nobody is above the law.

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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:45 PM
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98. What, no medal...?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:45 PM
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99. Bring them all down . . . . all of them . . .
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:48 PM
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100. "Come down Bush, come on down."
"George Bush don't like black people."

Howdy, Stranger! It's time our dreams turn to reality.

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:32 PM
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148. Nice graphic!
Is that Karltrina?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:48 PM
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101. Is This The First Bush "Resignation" For Incompetence?
It seems to me that all previous "resignations" were for disloyalty, rather than incompetence.

If this is the first, it's a huge, huge milestone - the Bushies are evil but not stupid, his presidency must be in really deep Voo-Doo.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:48 PM
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102. Don't laugh yet. Bush might nominate him for the Supreme Court. nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:50 PM
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104. Hey Georgie, the buck don't stop there. nt
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:57 PM
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105. note that his only mistake was bringing bad press to bush
as far as bush is concerned, he was loyal and therefore WAS doing a good job, at least until he caused bush to get some bad p.r.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:07 PM
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106. Brownie, We Hardly Knew Ye.
:toast:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:21 PM
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110. One down, a few hundred more to go...........
if everyone that's unqualified within the bush administration resigns, it would STILL only be a good start. There's so many of these idiots waiting in the wings for a chance to "prove" themselves to their peers it really wouldn't matter if the entire administration resigned. There's 100 more in line for each and every government job they're not remotely qualified to fill.
But it's a start. ;) Until now no one has been held accountable at all. "Brownie" fell on his sword rather than heap any more embarrassment on Der Failure. He knew bush would never fire him, that would be admitting a mistake.
Maybe he just got sick of waiting for his Medal of Freedom? :shrug:
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strizi64 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:21 PM
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111. Next to go: Chertoff
7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water." – Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered" Sept. 1, 2005

A "Homeland Security Secretary" not in touch with reality? Isn't that a risk to security :wtf: ?

(using rw talking points & :sarcasm: )
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ClickClack Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:24 PM
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113. "Brownie, you're making a heck of an exit!"
Actually, more like a getaway, leaving the scene of a crime.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:43 PM
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117. back to shoveling Arabian horse shit, instead of spewing bush's bullshit!
good riddance you worthless asshole!

I hope you're prosecuted for negligent homicide!
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:42 PM
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126. You muck horse shit not shovel it. That's where muck rakers comes from.
You get yourself a muck rake and go to it. I have 3 Arabians and it is actually kind of relaxing to forget the cares of the world and go to the arena or stalls and muck them out.
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Nightwing Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:50 PM
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118. Good riddance to bad rubbish
It's about damn time an idiot *bot fell on his sword to protect his emperor's ass. I'm still holding out hope that * is held accountable but that may be a cold day in hell.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:01 PM
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119. His New Job Should Be in Some Prison Laundry...
or library or medical ward. He stood stand trial for criminally negligent homocide for all those people - young and old - who died of thirst waiting while he dawdled or held press conferences. It was four days and they couldn't hold on...
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:14 PM
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122. He's turning in his resignation, but...
...maybe Bush won't accept it.

:rofl:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:16 PM
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123. ON PACIFICA: Brown says, "I don't know how I got the job instead of...
someone qualified! I'm just a horse guy from Kentucky."

Then he cried.


I think that puts the onus back where it belongs--on Bush for giving away an appointment like this to a crony.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:11 PM
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133. yep, that puts the blame exactly where it belongs, around bush's neck
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:38 PM
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124. Awwww....Shucks....Who would have thunk it...
Good bye motherfucker...
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:37 PM
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149. You mean, Good bye, mothermucker (according to post 126)
:D
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:40 PM
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125. This is an admission of guilt.
Perfect.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:19 PM
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137. Exactly.
Bush-bots won't admit that of course. But there it is: The federal response was a disaster in and of itself.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:49 PM
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127. Ha, I should have actually bet some money
I had this one pegged about the time he was "reassigned". I said to a friend that Brownie will now be dutifully falling on the sword to save the Bush administration from ever fucking having to say they did one fucking thing wrong. Heaven forbid!

And so it comes to pass.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:55 PM
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128. Excellent! I look forward to the day when Rove regrets not taking the
same step and ends up taking them ALL down. How are those indictments coming?
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:08 PM
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129. That's one useless bastard off of our taxpayers payroll. Many more
to go.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:09 PM
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130. Ding Dong the witch ain't quite dead...
But one of the flying monkeys was shot down.
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:38 PM
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131. DO YOU LIBERALS FINALLY SEE HOW BAD OF A JOB THE MAYOR AND GOVERNOR DID?!?
They screwed up so bad that it cost the FEMA director his job, this just goes to show the incompetence of Democrats, when they screw up they blow it so bad that even Republicans get fired!

I cannot wait for the investigation into how decisions made by the New Orleans and LA government made it all the way up to FEMA which caused the poor response and ultimately the resignation of Brown.

/sarcasm
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:22 PM
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138. LOL! It's the clearest evidence we've seen to date!
:rofl:

Oh, it must be a sad, sad thing to be a Bush apologist.

Do you think, after a day of phony bluster and regurgitated talking points, they cry themselves to sleep at night?

Hope so. Might be a sign that there's something human left in them after all.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:04 PM
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132. He should be put to work on public projects in New Orleans --
let him work in the toxic sludge and sleep on the bare floor of a flood-damaged building.

Then he should be paid less-than-minumun wage.

Personally, I wouldn't hire him for dog catcher.
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MSpike Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:12 PM
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135. Brown
Seriously people. Shouldn't the governer and the mayor share SOME responsibilty in all this?
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:26 PM
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142. Forgive the cross post, but it's relevant.
the president always takes the fall for bad things that happen during his administration, whether it's his fault or not. no need to even engage the freeps in a discussion on the subject. *'s numbers are falling because the american people are finally holding him accountable, regardless of who might be "truly" at fault.

as Eugene said in another thread:

Shrub convinced 51% of voters last November that he could keep them safe. He just blew that myth to Hell.


Blame who you like. I want Bush out of office!

-Laelth
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:43 PM
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145. I'd love to see Governor Haley Barbour nailed for incompetence.
That was who you were referring to, right? <chuckle>

If not, go and read the NRP. Here are the details:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4668155
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:16 PM
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147. Why?Counting on federal assistance as soon as Bush declared an emergency?
You don't believe state and local officials should be able to take the President of the United States on his word?
Bush signed a declaration of national emergency two days before the hurricane hit. From that point on, the governor and mayor reasonably expected Bush to follow through as per the practice,pattern and federal law which you in Florida benefitted from, i.e., immediate federal action. The legal principle is called "detrimental reliance" and entitles one to sue in civil court for damages, if you reasonably relied on someone and that reliance resulted in a detriment to you. (I don't think the smaller government units or individuals can sue the federal govt. because it probably has immunity in this case.)

Every mayor and governor in the USA reasonably should be able to take the President of the US, acting in the course and scope of his office, to keep his damn word! It's also the principle taught to people taking first aid/emergency response classes. The law does not oblige a private citizen to stop and give aid to someone in trouble. But once you do stop, you are obliged to stay on the scene until the victim recovers, or higher level medical personnel take over. The reasoning is that when other passersby see you providing assistance, they do not offer assistance.

Bush has severely damaged the credibility of the office of President. It's the FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT agency. Each of those words means something. It's not the
When-the-preident-gets-back-from-his-vacation Office of Political
Hack Appointees & Presidential Flyover agency.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:14 PM
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136. Let's give giant awards to the bastards who screwed up America!
Woohoo!
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:35 PM
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139. Too little, too late...
What a shame that this buffoon didn't have the decency to resign BEFORE his incompetence cost tens of thousands of lives. And now, watch the magical mystery Bush duck this one too! Wow! How did I evar think that the prezdent could hae did soem rong thing. I were stupid fer thinkin that the preznant scrued up in New Orlans, it was that Brown guy al along. Gee, I shur feel dum riht now.

MojoXN
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:56 PM
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141. So long Professor Brown
opps .... he was just a student .... so easy to mix those two up.

Student sits, takes notes, reads assignments, and takes exams
Professor lectures, assigns reading, and gives exams
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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:29 PM
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143. He must have read this article!!!!
IN YOUR FACE, AMERICA



THE RELENTLESS BUSHCO SCAM

Life is all about timing... the unreachable becomes reachable, the unavailable become available, the unattainable... attainable. Have the patience, wait it out. It's all about timing. Anon


No question about it, it’s all about timing, and don’t they know it! It’s been going on for nearly five years now, and the Bushco folks have it down to an exact science. Just like all successful swindlers, they know exactly when the eyes and ears and minds of their marks are diverted. They time things perfectly and they know exactly when to swoop in for the kill.

And, wouldn’t you just know it…they did it again just now! They pulled a couple of fast ones, while the nation was diverted and distracted. And it worked so well that hardly anyone knows it even happened. Do you?

THIS IS NOW


Here’s how the latest scheme went down:


1. They coupled the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina with the anniversary of September 11th.

2. They knew they could count on the media for non-stop, twenty-four seven coverage of Katrina, for days on end. They also figured in a full day of 9/11 remembrance and commemoration.

3. They knew their targets well. They knew that the human tragedies of Katrina and 9/11 would touch their hearts and minds of the American people. They knew that little else would displace their concerns.

4. They conjured up their ever-reliable ‘weekend sneak: make a move between Friday night and Sunday, and few people ever get to hear about it.

5. Without a hitch, and with little fanfare or publicity, they pulled off three outrageous and gutsy scams!!!

How many people even know they’ve been had? Ask around. See if people know that the charlatans in the White House pulled once again. See if they know that, while most of us were looking the other way this past weekend, we were hoodwinked in spades.

Not too many people know what went down, and what the ersatz corporate news networks didn’t bother to report: Here’s what happened:


If you don't know the latest and the past scams:


http://tvnewslies.org/html/relentless_bushco_scam.html
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:40 PM
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154. Tal Afar - This New Fallujah Massacre is what Katrina Distracted US From
Tal Afar Residents Send Out SOS

Injured civilians find no health care.

MOSUL, September 9, 2005 (IslamOnline.net) – Residents of the northern Iraqi city of Tal Afar has sent out an SOS to the international community to interfere with the US occupation authorities to stop their continuing bombing of their devastated city, revealing a terrible humanitarian situation.

"US and Iraqi forces are still besieging Tal Afar amid ongoing intensive bombing, ordering residents of Hassan Kawi and Sarray neighborhoods to evacuate immediately," a Tal Afar tribal leader told IOL over the phone Thursday, September 8.

"The Americans are seemingly bombing the city with chemical weapons," he said, adding Tal Afar residents are speaking of suffocations and other health problems upon exposure to any hit area. (more unfortunately)
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:33 PM
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144. Meanwhile, back on the ranch - when is Rove resigning?
gone quiet hasn't it?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:45 PM
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146. *crickets*
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:43 PM
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150. Say it isn't so!!! He was so valuable, he was needed back in DC
to plan and deal with, uh,.... other stuff. :sarcasm:
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:43 PM
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151. This news is not being broadcast in Freeperville
I looked and looked.

Nothing.

*crickets*
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:51 PM
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153. This just in: Michael Brown elopes with Jeff Gannon to Massachusetts
Details at 11.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:25 AM
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159. Well...
I guess this can be looked at as something he did right/good. Its about flipping time, to bad he wasn't fired, can he collect unemployement and any other benefits? I'm leaning towars, yeah he will/can/does. I'm glad the worthless man is gone.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:37 AM
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160. HALLELUJAH ....LET'S PARTY !!!!!!!
I WAS SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.I WAS EVEN MORE EXCITED THAT DEMOCRATS ARE BECOMING MUCH BOLDER AND AGGRESSIVE IN CONFRONTING THE TOTAL AND COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.I AM HAVING A BALL.:kick: BU BYE BROWN !!!!
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vando Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:07 AM
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164. Not enough. Criminal charges are needed
...if we are serious about full accountability. People died ecause this man did not do his job.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:13 AM
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165. Brown too incompetent
It's a a damn shame Bush is too incompetent himself to see this. It's no different than having terists in leadership of FEMA. Either way it goes, American lives are needlessly lost and thousands are suffering.
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plunger Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 06:54 AM
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166. Incompetence Pays
Incompetence Pays:

Tuesday, September 13, 2005
Disaster Capitalism in New Orleans

The cost of cleaning up the results of Bush's negligence in failing to deal with global warming and spending money needed for New Orleans levees on his war in Iraq may be as much as the $300 billion spent in four years to fight the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Of course, what most people would regard as a cost, the entrepreneurial politicians in the Bush White House see as yet another opportunity to transfer money from taxpayers to their personal friends. The scheme is blatantly obvious:


1. Bush has started to issue Iraq-style no-bid contracts, with cost-plus provisions that guarantee contractors a certain profit regardless of how much they spend.

2. Old buddies like Halliburton, Bechtel, and Fluor are first in line. Joe Allbaugh, the former director of FEMA, is lobbying for Halliburton, and another winner of the Katrina windfall, Shaw Group Inc.

3. In order to increase profitability at the expense of the working people most affected by the hurricane and thus most in need of money, Bush has removed (or here) federal minimum-wage provisions from the reconstruction contracts.

The concept of 'disaster capitalism', a term coined by Naomi Klein, is now being applied to the United States itself. Klein wrote:

"Last summer, in the lull of the August media doze, the Bush Administration's doctrine of preventive war took a major leap forward. On August 5, 2004, the White House created the Office of the Coordinator for Reconstruction and Stabilization, headed by former US Ambassador to Ukraine Carlos Pascual. Its mandate is to draw up elaborate 'post-conflict' plans for up to twenty-five countries that are not, as of yet, in conflict. According to Pascual, it will also be able to coordinate three full-scale reconstruction operations in different countries 'at the same time,' each lasting 'five to seven years.'

"But if the reconstruction industry is stunningly inept at rebuilding, that may be because rebuilding is not its primary purpose. According to Guttal, 'It's not reconstruction at all - it's about reshaping everything.' If anything, the stories of corruption and incompetence serve to mask this deeper scandal: the rise of a predatory form of disaster capitalism that uses the desperation and fear created by catastrophe to engage in radical social and economic engineering.

"A group calling itself Thailand Tsunami Survivors and Supporters says that for 'businessmen-politicians, the tsunami was the answer to their prayers, since it literally wiped these coastal areas clean of the communities which had previously stood in the way of their plans for resorts, hotels, casinos and shrimp farms. To them, all these coastal areas are now open land!'"

Just like New Orleans! If the Bush Administration has elaborate pre-made plans to make money off conflicts which have yet to occur in other countries, why would they not also have elaborate pre-made plans to make money off natural disasters that occur within the United States? A book of plans for New Orleans, a book of plans for Florida, a book of plans for San Francisco . . the money to be made is enormous! The implications of FEMA's 'incompetence' and Bush's inexplicable failure to do anything about the plight of New Orleans until it was too late become rather obvious. Competence just leads to fewer chances to make money.

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/
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