Wiretap Mosques, (Mitt) Romney Suggests

[matcom]

:eyes:

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WASHINGTON -- Governor Mitt Romney raised the prospect of wiretapping mosques and conducting surveillance of foreign students in Massachusetts, as he issued a broad call yesterday for the federal government to devote far more money and attention to domestic intelligence gathering.

In remarks that caused alarm among civil libertarians and advocates for immigrants rights, Romney said in a speech to the Heritage Foundation that the United States needs to radically rethink how it guards itself against terrorism.

''How many individuals are coming to our state and going to those institutions who have come from terrorist-sponsored states?" he said, referring to foreign students who attend universities in Massachusetts. ''Do we know where they are? Are we tracking them?"

''How about people who are in settings -- mosques, for instance -- that may be teaching doctrines of hate and terror," Romney continued. ''Are we monitoring that? Are we wiretapping? Are we following what's going on?"

As he ponders a potential run for president in 2008, Romney has positioned himself as a homeland security expert: He sits on a federal homeland security advisory council, is active on the issue with the National Governors Association, and repeatedly speaks about the lessons the country has learned from the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and, more recently, from Hurricane Katrina.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/09/15/wiretap_mosques_romney_suggests?mode=PF

[Scurrilous]

1. Hey Mitt...

...if you want to monitor those that may be teaching doctrines of hate, you don't need any stinking wiretaps. Just watch the 700 Club and try to follow along.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

2. Yeah, this is not like Nazi Germany at all.

:eyes:

[saigon68]

31. He will soon hire these LADIES to beat up and KILL "RAG HEADS"

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. why not wiretap churches as well?

Especially those with Pat Robertson type preachers, or preachers that think it is a wonderful idea to kill abortion providers.

Romney's idea is based on a false premise, that all Muslims are terrorists, all teach hate, etc, etc, which makes about as much sense as saying all Christians want to assassinate Hugo Chavez because Idiot Robertson said so.

[matcom]

4. Wiretap LDS CHURCHES

i lived in Salt Lake. those are the REAL terrorists

[0007]

8. I went to school in Logan in the 50's and it didn't take long

before I got the hell out of there.

YOU are right those are the REAL terrorists.

[matcom]

15. ugh. Logan is the PITS

but not QUITE as bad these days as Sandy

[0007]

19. Worse place I've ever lived. I want no part of Utah any shape way

or form.

[truthisfreedom]

5. why stop there? why not governor's offices? who knows what kinds of evil

eminate from public office?

[rox63]

6. Take our governor...please?

I'm so embarrassed that my deep blue home state of MA elected Mittens the Moron. :banghead:

[acmejack]

7. Let's make a deal!

We'll take Mitt but you got to take Rick Perry! All trades final!

Still want to trade?

[Lochloosa]

9. I'll throw in a Bush.....

any takers....didn't think so

[bee]

26. isnt it bizarre...

you in MA have great dem senators... but an insane repub governor.
we in NH have vile repub senators... but a great dem governor.

But Im down with a trade. lol. Ill take crazy mitten head.. if you take bradley and ass. oops.. I mean bass.

[Tsiyu]

10. Why the hell?

To collect evidence they will never use?

They had enough warning to stop 911 ( if it wasn't MIHOP ) and did nothing with the information.

So they wiretap some Mosques? They won't allow any interpretors to figure out what was said; they won't use anything they collect to save any Americans.

The only purpose I can see to this lovely invasion of privacy would be to give the BFEE a heads up so they can exploit any tragedy to further their greedy powermongering.

[EST]

16. Nail--hammer--etc.

[Lochloosa]

11. Wiretap the Situation Room at the White House

Then you will find the real terrorist.

[salin]

12. given that some rwing groups prone to violence

meet together in some Christian churches - would he advocate wire tapping at churches as well? Would the many Americans who attend Christian churches give up that privacy in favor of security? If so- then as a democracy, sadly, that could become policy. But I rather suspect that most would not agree - and that is the crux of all of this silliness. And how does Katrina work into all of this? Is it really being implied that this wiretapping would have helped the response to Katrina - lunacy. More and more lunacy from the right.

[EST]

17. Yep-Iran did it!

[bicentennial_baby]

13. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


(i really hate my governor)

[Demeter]

14. Wiretap Romney--Fight Crime!

Honestly, where were these Republicans raised? Not in my US of A!

[Terran]

18. How come you good people in Mass.

have such an utter dumbass for a Governor? Did I miss something? Did he get elected through some quirk, like somebody died or something? Jeez. :eyes:

[Akoto]

20. Wiretap Pat Robertson's house, please.

He seems to have this fascination with hitmen and opportune deaths. :)

[jobycom]

21. We'd save more lives by wiretaping White House phones

Bush, Rove, Cheney, Hughes, Rice, Rumsfield. Why don't we start with proven terrorists?

[northzax]

22. hey Mitt-

do you know why your state is wealthy? do you know why the economy is growing faster than the national average? could it have something to do with the 'foreigners' eager to move to your state and attend those shoddy, second class institutions of higher learning you have there?

[LibDemAlways]

23. This from a man who belongs to a

church so secretive in its rituals that it will not let non-members into its temples.

I smell a strong whiff of hypocrisy here.

[chelsea0011]

24. Is our loser Governor listening to others or is he independently

insane? Who is running his campaign to also-ran in the Presidential field? But I can't stand him, so I'm enjoying his free thinking.

[Pithy Cherub]

25. Governor Republican Hairball decides to racially and religiously profile

a broad swath of the public without evidence. This is an idiot of the first rank and shows he is in favor of profiling as an intelligence strategy. Only dumb republicans would vote for something or someone so odious.

[Tempest]

27. Wiretap and conduct surveillance on white American males

White guys like Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski, Irving David Rubin and Earl Leslie Krugel.

[shavedape]

32. i believe they're all dead or in jail

do you think they are still a threat?

[Trillo]

28. Another First Amendment attack?

mosques, for instance -- that may be teaching doctrines of hate and terror," Romney continued. ''Are we monitoring that? Are we wiretapping? Are we following what's going on?"

The first thing I thought of when reading this quote was more of the republican doublespeak, or reverse psychology where we're being told of Romney's 'hate.' But then, reading it slower (a problem I have is reading too fast) I note the "for instance" portion of his quote. Clearly, he doesn't want to limit it to only mosques. But then, to attenuate that first disclaimer, there's the second conditional, "may be teaching doctrines of hate."

I do think we need to be watching those who teach hate, and also those who teach zero tolerance, for the two are intimately intertwined. But what about those who've had the tyranny (hate) of the state directed at them, their family, friends, and their neighbors, only to find out from surveillance that they weren't teaching those things? How does one undo the reputation damage done with the surveillance? (my answer is its never undone)

[matcom]

29. bump for the evening crowd

:kick:

[Zynx]

30. Yes Mein Fuehrer!

It's official: MITT IS A FASCIST!