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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:03 AM
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'Narrow win' for NZ ruling party (Labour)
New Zealand's ruling Labour Party appears to have won a narrow victory in elections, but will need the support of minor parties to form a government.

Election officials said Prime Minister Helen Clark had enough votes for 50 seats in parliament to the opposition National Party's 49.

Correspondents say a government could take weeks to be formed as both parties try to put together coalitions.
...
ELECTION RESULTS
Labour - 41% (50 seats)
National - 40% (49)
New Zealand First - 6% (7)
Greens - 5% (6)
United Future - 3% (3)
Maori - 2% (4*)
Act - 1.5% (2)
Progressive Party - 1% (1)
*Includes two guaranteed seats

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4254736.stm
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:11 AM
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1. Good on ya, Ms Clark!
And congratulations to the Kiwis.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:11 AM
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2. in the story, it says...
>>That year's 77% figure was considered low for the South Pacific nation, which has 2.83 million registered voters.<<

considered low? wow.

Good news on the win, but they barely got it.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:28 AM
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3. Yeah, but from what I understand...
...NZ's "conservative" party occupies a space on the political spectrum around where our Democrats are. Besides, it's a multiparty system, so parties need the aid of others to get measures passed and, in NZ's case, those parties are pretty seriously liberal ones.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 10:18 AM
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4. National is somewhat right of the Democrats.
However, the center/center left parties received 70 seats which is 59% of all the seats (120 total)
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:14 PM
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8. The BBC reported this morning that the NZ Nats planned to disenfranchise .
... some of the Maori population.

So unless the Dems have plans to disenfranchise Native Americans, I suspect that they're to their right ..

Perhaps a Kiwi poster could elucidate?

The Skin
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:26 PM
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10. they want to eliminate the seats set aside for the Maoris
oh, and stop their "welfare dependency." :eyes:
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:40 PM
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11. The same space as the Dems? Well, Zell Miller, maybe ....
The Skin
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:48 PM
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13. They are definitely right wing
They also want to end New Zealand's anti-nuclear policy. :nuke:
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 11:25 AM
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5. btw
PM Clark is atheist. I think that's interesting.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 11:36 AM
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6. She described herself as agnostic last year
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 11:36 AM by muriel_volestrangler
Helen Clark is an agnostic.

She made the declaration yesterday in response to a claim by Dr Brash that she was an atheist.

"I am not going to have Dr Brash describe my personal beliefs," she said. "I'm not aware I have ever described myself as an atheist.

"I describe myself as an agnostic."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3554978
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:03 PM
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7. ah ok, thanks
i believe the leader of the centre-right National Party is atheist or agnostic too. Can you imagine an atheist leading the Republicans (or Dems for that matter)?
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:18 PM
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9. Perhaps the US would be better off
if atheists and agnostics could be political candidates.
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:43 PM
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12. Most western countries achieved that in the 19th/ early 20th centuries...
... maybe the States will get there before Saudi, maybe not ...

The Skin
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Nostradamus Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:54 PM
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14. US right-wing pumped money into fascist National Party campaign
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 09:57 PM by Nostradamus
you will find it all here at www.scoop.co.nz

the National Party tried to win on a platform of greed and racism

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