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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:36 PM
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Dean, DNC: Gulf Coast Needs Relief, Not A Right-Wing Agenda From Bush
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=53817

WASHINGTON, Sept. 21 /U.S. Newswire/ -- "As the people of the Gulf Coast begin the long road to recovery after the worst natural disaster in American history, President Bush is choosing to use this tragedy to push his conservative political agenda on the region. At this pivotal moment in American history, the residents of the Gulf Coast need a President that will stand up for them and will stand up to his cronies and the right-wing ideologues in his own party.

Instead, the Bush White House is taking this opportunity to push an ideological agenda suspending environmental and public health protections and pushing for tax breaks directed to the super-rich."

"This is a critical moment in Bush's presidency. The President must decide whether or not he will stand up to the right-wing in his party and do what's right for America and the Gulf Coast," said Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean. "America needs leadership that focuses on the needy, not the greedy. We need leadership that is willing to stand up and make tough choices based on what's right for America and the Gulf Coast, not partisan ideology or personal friendships. It is time for Republicans in Washington to join Democrats in supporting a Marshall Plan to invest in the Gulf Coast and invest in rebuilding our American community, not weakening it with a partisan agenda."




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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:39 PM
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1. America needs leadership that focuses on the needy, not the greedy
That a good way to put it...
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:20 PM
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14. Agreed.
And maybe:?

"accepts the needy, and not favor the greedy."


In any case, Dr Howard is right on in my book.


Curiously, so are the Brits as regards the freepers.
http://politicstalk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@72.H9x2gt53398.0@.77481e73/0
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:39 PM
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2. Recommended! Tell it, Dean!
This needs to be heard far and wide so No One gets Duped by the bushwa and their "mea culpa"!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:42 PM
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3. Bush using this to push school vouchers. DNC research.
From the link:

"Bush Is Pushing Vouchers on Displaced School Children. Under Bush's plan to cover most of the cost of educating students displaced by Hurricane Katrina, parents could enroll their children in a private or religious school this year at federal expense, even if they had gone to public schools back home. The Administration's proposal contained a sleight-of-hand. In proposing $1.9 billion in aid for K-12 students whose schools were ruined by the storm, Education Secretary Margaret Spellings originally said the Administration was setting aside $488 million for private-school tuition and other help for the large segment of children from New Orleans who had been attending Catholic schools when Katrina hit. On Sept. 19, however, as new fine print of the proposal emerged, the administration confirmed that the government payment -- as much as $7,500 per child -- would be given for a year to any displaced family for private schools. (Washington Post, 9/20/05; Wall Street Journal, 9/15/05)

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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:56 PM
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11. Absurd
If the hurricane destroyed the public schools in NO, then it destroyed the PRIVATE schools too.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:18 PM
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13. I think it means the federal govt is paying for private religious schools
wherever they might be displaced. I should say "possibly" religious. In Florida, where Jeb already does that, it has been declared unconstitional. Yet here is the federal government giving vouchers for private schools which could be religious based.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:43 PM
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4. Howard speaks the truth.
Nominated and kicked.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:45 PM
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5. Help the needy, not the greedy.
I like it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:36 PM
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18. GRAND slogan to use.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:50 PM
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6. They are actually going to get away with
suspending wage and affirmative action rules in the wake of this.

Just unbelievable.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:36 PM
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19. Yep, they are allowing themselves to get away with it.
Just like they allow themselves to get away with all the outrages.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:57 PM
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7. Why is Howard Dean the only Democrat the continously...
stays on message? Dr. Dean, you are a breath of fresh air!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:18 PM
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8. Kerry has "consistently stayed on message", too
I like Dean's speech. But let's support all out Dems who are out there fighting the Bush agenda, okay?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:48 PM
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15. Yeah: on the war message.
If New Orleans has been bereft of manpower and resources, it's partly due to the disastrous war Kerry foolishly supported.

I'm all for supporting Dems who "are out there fighting the Bush agenda." They're the exception to the rule.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:07 PM
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16. Wrong. Read anything he's ever said.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 07:09 PM by WildEyedLiberal
But thanks for helping the Republicans. Karl Rove loves you.

Besides, wasn't this speech about Katrina? Your random non-sequitor has no bearing on anything in this thread.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:06 PM
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20. Politics is a Damn poker game
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 08:08 PM by reformedluddite
and Howard Dean is one of the few Democrats willing to 'Raise' the wager in the game.

Poker party

In politics as in poker, the only way to win is to seize the initiative. The Democrats need to make bold wagers or risk being rolled over again.

By David Mamet
ONE NEEDS TO know but three words to play poker: call, raise or fold.

Fold means keep the money, I'm out of the hand; call means to match your opponents' bet. That leaves raise, which is the only way to win at poker. The raiser puts his opponent on the defensive, seizing the initiative. Initiative is only important if one wants to win.

The military axiom is "he who imposes the terms of the battle imposes the terms of the peace." The gambling equivalent is: "Don't call unless you could raise"; that is, to merely match one's opponent's bet is effective only if it makes the opponent question the caller's motives. And that can only occur if the caller has acted aggressively enough in the past to cause his opponents to wonder if the mere call is a ruse de guerre.

If you are branded as passive, the table will roll right over you — your opponents will steal antes without fear. Why? Because the addicted caller has never exhibited what, in the wider world, is known as courage.

In poker, one must have courage: the courage to bet, to back one's convictions, one's intuitions, one's understanding. There can be no victory without courage. The successful player must be willing to wager on likelihoods. Should he wait for absolutely risk-free certainty, he will win nothing, regardless of the cards he is dealt.

For example, take a player who has never acted with initiative — he has never raised, merely called. Now, at the end of the evening, he is dealt a royal flush. The hand, per se, is unbeatable, but the passive player has never acted aggressively; his current bet (on the sure thing) will signal to the other players that his hand is unbeatable, and they will fold.

His patient, passive quest for certainty has won nothing.

The Democrats, similarly, in their quest for a strategy that would alienate no voters, have given away the store, and they have given away the country.

Committed Democrats watched while Al Gore frittered away the sure-thing election of 2000. They watched, passively, while the Bush administration concocted a phony war; they, in the main, voted for the war knowing it was purposeless, out of fear of being thought weak. They then ran a candidate who refused to stand up to accusations of lack of patriotism.

The Republicans, like the perpetual raiser at the poker table, became increasingly bold as the Democrats signaled their absolute reluctance to seize the initiative.

John Kerry lost the 2004 election combating an indictment of his Vietnam War record. A decorated war hero muddled himself in merely "calling" the attacks of a man with, curiously, a vanishing record of military attendance. Even if the Democrats and Kerry had prevailed (that is, succeeded in nullifying the Republicans arguably absurd accusations), they would have been back only where they started before the accusations began.

Control of the initiative is control of the battle. In the alley, at the poker table or in politics. One must raise. The American public chose Bush over Kerry in 2004. How, the undecided electorate rightly wondered, could one believe that Kerry would stand up for America when he could not stand up to Bush? A possible response to the Swift boat veterans would have been: "I served. He didn't. I didn't bring up the subject, but, if all George Bush has to show for his time in the Guard is a scrap of paper with some doodling on it, I say the man was a deserter."

This would have been a raise. Here the initiative has been seized, and the opponent must now fume and bluster and scream unfair. In combat, in politics, in poker, there is no certainty; there is only likelihood, and the likelihood is that aggression will prevail.

The press, quiescent during five years of aggressive behavior by the White House, has, perhaps, begun to recover its pride. In speaking of Karl Rove, Scott McClellan and the White House's Valerie Plame disgrace, they have begun to use words such as "other than true," "fabricated." The word that they circle, still, is "lie." The word the Democratic constituency, heartsick over the behavior of its party leaders, has been forced to consider applying to them is "coward."

One may sit at the poker table all night and never bet and still go home broke, having anted away one's stake.

The Democrats are anteing away their time at the table. They may be bold and risk defeat, or be passive and ensure it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-mamet16sep16,1,341798.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

In closing, I want Democrates to stop taking knives to the gun fight because the enemy is playing hardball. (Oh, one alwful mixed metaphors but that's how I feel - I want players on my team!)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:40 PM
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26. That was a good article, thanks for sharing.
:hi:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:22 PM
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9. Boy, I don't think I fully realized what an improvement Dean was
over Terry McAwful until Katrina. He's amazing.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:38 PM
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10. Thank you, Dr. Chairman!
You give me Hope.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:35 PM
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17. and now with Rita-the gulf coast is expanded. What will he do?
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:10 PM
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21. Go Dean!
Couldn't have said it better myself :toast:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:18 PM
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22. Thank you Dr. Dean n/t
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:21 PM
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23. kick 'em
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:23 PM
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24. If what I'm hearing about the wage protections is true. I'm pissed!
The lifting of the wage protections only applies to NOLA. Not Miss or Ala. Boy that will teach them to not register as Democrats. Is thsi the new Republican policy? Democrats if you can't kill them enslave them?

In light of the lifting of wage protections. Profit caps should be placed on corporations. I know the republicans will cry. No one will want to do the work if is some CEO can't get multi million follar bonuses on top of multi-million dollar salaries. Who cares what they want? Seize any refusing companies and sell them to poor residents for 1.00.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:27 PM
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25. It's true.
And very sad. Some say Bush did not really have authority to do away with it, but then who the heck who will stop him? He just barrels on ahead with his agenda, and the good guys in his party are too afraid of Karl Rove and his threats to step in.
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