McCain backs bill against use of torture

[davidinalameda]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/26/MNGK4EU1811.DTL

Sen. John McCain, decrying new reports of Iraqi prisoner abuse by U.S. soldiers, backed a bill Sunday to force the U.S. military to live up to its international obligations under the Geneva Convention and not torture detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Arizona Republican was responding to fresh allegations from Army Capt. Ian Fishback and two sergeants who served with the 82nd Airborne Division. Their description of routine harsh treatment of Iraqi captives parallels the abuse caught in photographs at the Abu Ghraib prison and was contained in a Human Rights Watch report issued by the advocacy group on Friday.

"We've got to have it stopped. It is hurting America's image abroad," McCain said on ABC's "This Week" program.

[Webster Green]

1. But he loves those fucking neo-con torturers...

He's very confused.

[AllyCat]

2. It's hurting our image abroad? Is that the only reason this matters?

gee, how about it's unethical, cruel, and inhuman to torture people, John? Isn't that important too?

I'm glad to hear him support this, but as always, I question his motives.

[AlCzervik]

6. no Karen Hughes said looting hurt our image abroad, she didn't mention

torture.:mad:

[bunkerbuster1]

3. But Torture Boy Alberto still gets my thumbs-up!

You had your chance to make a legitimate statement about this, John, and you blew it.

[acmavm]

As has been said many times before, F*** McCain.

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[goforit]

17. Here,here!!!.......F**K McCain!!!!

[catnhatnh]

4. Imagine....

...in the year 2005 in America we have to pass a bill outlawing torture???Welcome to the logical outcome of the "Contract On America".

[koopie57]

19. and who is sure it would even pass?

[Algorem]

5. Gee,I wonder who's running for president.

[mod mom]

7. but doesn't that go against the GOP party agenda?

[Horse with no Name]

8. Didn't he "support" torture before he was "against" torture?

:shrug:
Shut up John...you made your bed with the filthiest of all, now lie in it with them, you are NO better than they are.
YOU of all people had a chance to make a difference in your vote for Gonzo, yet you chose the path of least resistance and voted FOR TORTURE.
Nobody gives a flying fuck what you have to say anymore "flip-flop McCain".

[RethugAssKicker]

9. All I have to say is ...........F**K McCain!

[jobycom]

10. Ah, he's worried about our image. Mighty white of him, ain't it?

[hatrack]

11. Cakes to eat and Chimpanzees to hug, Johnny Boy

Best be about your self-appointed tasks.

Stop wasting our time with this carefully stage-managed image of "indignation" and "morality".

[davidinalameda]

12. I wonder why he's going against Bush now

I doubt this will play well with the Repuke faithful

[AllyCat]

21. They'll pull a Frist on him for sure.

Wonder how "blind" his trusts are.

[gratuitous]

13. I thought we already had laws against torture

Along with the constitution, our nation's treaty obligations are the supreme law of the land. Or at least they're supposed to be. If our military doesn't respect, honor or follow our obligations under the Geneva Conventions, why does McCain think they'll suddenly grow a conscience if he and his fellow political whores cluck their tongues and stroke their fingers saying "Shame, shame"?

Appalling.

[Initech]

14. I wonder what Rushy and "Club Gitmo" have to say about that?

Why dont we propose a bill that would lock them up as well?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

15. In Bushworld we need a BILL to do the right and legal thing?

And is McCain sure Karl said it would be OK to support it?

[deminks]

16. So what is the bill going to do? They'll just outsource it even more.

We'll have mysterious planes flying all over the place. Anything to keep it going - the death and pain and destruction that these lizards feed on. That's is Bushco's "rendition" of torture.

[Delphinus]

18. I thought the Geneva Convention,

which WE signed, took care of this.

I thought, being the CIVILIZED country we claim to be, we wouldn't sink so low as to torture.

[dhinojosa]

20. Even though McCain likes to take it from the GOP...

this is responsible and I hope he gets it passed. I also hope he realizes after this who his friends and real patriots are.

[54anickel]

22. Is he backing off on the idea of an amendment to the DoD budget bill?

I can't quite tell from the article, but it sure sounds that way. He needs to attach it to the DoD bill, damn it!!! Bush threatens to veto if it's amended and THAT'S what I want to see!!! I want to see Bush justifying his first ever veto because the amendment calls for the end of torture and following the Geneva Convention. I want to see the little Idiot & Thief squirm his way around that one.

[olddad56]

23. They have to introduce a bill against torture? WTF....

As if torturing other human beings was one of our inaliable rights as Amercians.

[TankLV]

24. Fuck McCaine! He's crazy. Being a POW does that to you.

And I'm being charitable here.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

25. 1000 words.

Mommy!

[leesa]

26. There is no need for this bill. This is an attempt to pretend no law

existed to make them comply with the Geneva Convention. It's another GOP "How could we have known" moment. McCain's a total whore for the GOP and the Neocons.

[Solly Mack]

27. I was just about to type that very thing

A law already exist against torture - a US federal law - in addition to the GC.

This is bullshit by McCain.