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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:23 AM
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Second nuclear plant in the works (Central FL)
October 4, 2005

If plans fly, Progress Energy expects to select a design and site, possibly in rural Central Florida, by the end of this year. The plant could be up and running by 2015.

Spurred by customer growth, rising conventional fuel costs and a pronuclear stance by the Bush administration, Progress Energy Florida may build a second nuclear power plant in Florida, with rural counties in Central Florida providing some of the most attractive options for a site.

If the St. Petersburg utility proceeds with such plans, the new plant would become Florida's first new nuclear generation project since 1983, when Florida Power & Light opened a second reactor at its St. Lucie nuclear complex near Fort Pierce. In 1977, Progress Energy, then known as Florida Power Corp., began operating its first and only nuclear power plant at its Crystal River complex in Citrus County.

By the end of this year, Progress' corporate parent, Progress Energy Inc. of Raleigh, N.C., expects to select a potential site and design for a nuclear plant to meet the growing electricity demands of its expanding customer base. Altogether, Progress operates four nuclear facilities in the Carolinas and Florida.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/04/State/Second_nuclear_plant_.shtml

I wonder if this was part of Cheney's energy plan? Of course, FL gets to be the guinea pig to see how the country will swallow new nuke plants. I suppose they had to wait until Jeb couldn't run for governor again to try to see if their devious plans will fly?

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:34 AM
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1. Shit, and we're hearing this from the St. Pete Times?
Quick, someone wake up the Orlando Sleepinal.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:34 AM
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2. Also, Florida seems like a suspect area at best to
build a nuclear plant. Can you spell 'hurricane'?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:44 AM
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3. If they do it, I hope they tie Jeb Bush to the plant each time a big
one blows in.
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stevekatz Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:47 AM
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8. As long as
As long as they don't build the plant in a flood area it won't be an issue. A hurricane wouldn't even dent the actual tower, its encased in concrete.

They'd shut the actual reactors down in advance of any storm.

We need nuclear power, I'd like to see us embrace it in the same way France has.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:57 AM
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9. Not with BushCo building these things
I don't trust them for a minute to be even interested in doing it right.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:36 AM
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11. Are you willing to store the waste in your backyard?????
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stevekatz Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:45 AM
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17. .
I think the better question is, are you willing to breath the waste into thier lungs. Do you want your kids to breath in the waste from Coal/Oil power plants?

I'd way rather have barrels of physcial waste to deal with then thousands of tons of carbon and other pollutants pumped into the atmosphere.

Nuclear technoligy isn't a great thing, but I see it as the best of what is available right now.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:37 AM
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12. I was thinking about it too
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:27 AM
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4. This is great news.
We need more nuclear power plants if we want to decrease green house gas output. We should be replacing every coal and oil fired power plant with nuclear because it is better for the enviroment and it decreases out reliance on foreign energy.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:33 AM
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5. it is NOT "better for the environment"
ever hear of nuclear waste?

peace
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:48 AM
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6. The problem is we store the waste instead of processing it into new fuel.
Do hear of this problem in other countries that use nuclear energy for power?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:27 AM
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7. Just because countries like France
have figured out how to make safer nuke plants, what would ever lead you to believe the Bush and their cronies give two shits about safety?

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 02:52 PM
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23. i hear they ship their waste abroad
still not safe.

peace
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:05 AM
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10. I guess you didn't learn anything from Kenny Boy
"Operation Death Star" was aimed at Americans.
I'm surprised that people on DU are falling for this bs.
WC Fields was right - there's a sucker born every minute.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:22 AM
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13. Welp, where else is Florida going to get energy?
It's not exactly a fun place to be without air conditioning.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:25 AM
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14. There are tons of ways to reduce and conserve
that people don't even think about down here before we have to go nuclear. Beside we already have 3 nuke plants and my electric bill is still sky high.

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:40 AM
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16. try the sun.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:58 AM
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19. On the scale that Florida "needs" energy
Solar power ain't gonna do it.

There's a reason why the state was sparsely populated up and until about 60-70 years ago.

http://www.sun-herald.com/2000/fron17.htm

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:37 AM
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20. not entirely of course, but it could be put to some use as a .
good supplementary source of energy. Seems like a state with that much sunshine is a good place to establish a solar energy model program.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:57 PM
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22. Very good point n/t
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:39 AM
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15. Just great, I live in St. Petersburg. Now I not only have to worry about
being in hurricane alley, and * now allowing oil drilling 5 miles off the beautiful coastline in the Gulf of Mexico, now I've got to worry about said hurricanes (or terrorism) striking a nuclear plant. Hey Progress Energy, I've got a clue, it's the SUNSHINE state, why not start a solar energy program there that will harness some of that free stuff we've got an abundance of. Geesh.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:57 AM
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18. Yes, it's the result of Cheney's Nuclear 2010 initiiative
and ChimpCo's so-called "Energy Bill"

http://www.ne.doe.gov/NucPwr2010/NucPwr2010.html

It's Corporate Welfare on a breathtaking scale...

www.citizen.org/documents/nuke2010analysis.pdf

http://www.cleveland.com/energy/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/isene/1124019036219000.xml&coll=2

<snip>

Uncle Sam is on board - with a 10-year, $550 million grant program called Nuclear Power 2010 that began four years ago to help with the costs of new designs and licensing.

And last week the government stepped up with a new multibillion-dollar portfolio of financial guarantees and incentives.

Major provisions of the landmark energy bill that President Bush signed include:

Federal loan construction guarantees for up to 80 percent of costs.

Compensation for utilities building the first new reactors if completion is delayed because of litigation or foot-dragging by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

Production tax credits worth millions to a utility once its new reactor begins operating.

Renewal of the Price-Anderson Act for 20 years to limit utility liability and help insure new reactors by providing a larger secondary insurance pool.

<snip>

50% of the licensing process for these reactors will be paid by US taxpayers - we're talking tens of millions of dollars.

...and when they are built - the US will have to compete for a dwindling global supply of uranium...

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9069-1735134,00.html

...and will the operators of these marvelous reactors pay their fair share of the cost of spent fuel disposal????

Nope.

When we elect a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress, this nonsense will come to a screeching halt.



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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:39 AM
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21. It's about time n/t
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