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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:43 PM
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Ex-FBI Chief Puts Clinton Critique in Print (Freeh re: Bill Clinton)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/06/AR2005100601797.html

Ex-FBI Chief Puts Clinton Critique in Print
Freeh's Book and Interview Air Harsh Statements; Some Call It Fiction

By Howard Kurtz

Former FBI director Louis J. Freeh has denounced Bill Clinton over the scandals that marred his presidency and for his record on terrorism, saying the level of distrust was so great that he stayed in his post so Clinton could not appoint his successor.

In a forthcoming book and "60 Minutes" interview, Freeh, whose strained relations with Clinton were no secret, says he was so determined to distance himself from Clinton that he sent back a White House pass so that all his visits would be deemed official. This, he said, antagonized Clinton.

In an interview with CBS's Mike Wallace to be broadcast Sunday, Freeh says: "The problem was with Bill Clinton -- the scandals and the rumored scandals, the incubating ones and the dying ones never ended. Whatever moral compass the president was consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were full of skeletons just waiting to burst out." Freeh cited investigations involving Whitewater, Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones and Gennifer Flowers.

Clinton spokesman Jay Carson said last night: "This is clearly a total work of fiction by a man who's desperate to clear his name and sell books, and it's unfortunate he'd stoop to this level in his attempt to rewrite history." He noted Freeh contributed nearly $20,000 to Republicans, including President Bush, in the last campaign.


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high_and_mighty Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:49 PM
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1. this kind of stuff makes me believe in conspiracies
look at the people surrounding president Clinton and tell me that Monica wasn't groomed and pushed in his direction by profilers who knew his weaknesses and her ambitions....
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:56 PM
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6. You know, I have always wondered the same thing. If he was set up.

I mean he made the decision to do it, but I mean that they thought they'd tempt him and see if he took it.
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eattherich Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:10 AM
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24. If Monica WAS a setup
they took an awful chance, using an ugly girl. They had to know he'd hit a fat one.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:39 AM
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28. Monica was not ugly... She was attractive,,,, Just cause she
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 04:40 AM by WCGreen
wasn;t as "GOOD" looking as Laura Bush or George Wills boyfriend doesn't mean she is an ugly woman...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:01 AM
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34. Monica Lewinsky is quite attractive
She isn't my type, but she is pretty and nicely groomed -- and I mean that in a very non-snarky way. I actually gave Clinton a little bit of kudos for that -- he at least didn't chest on Hillary with some stereotypical "blonde bimbo" physical type.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:56 AM
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42. Monica is a whole lot prettier than laura bush.
eeew Laura doesn't have any looks. eww.
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eattherich Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:27 AM
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44. Different strokes I guess.
Don't misunderstand me. I don't give a squat about the other side's women and half-women. I just think the most powerful man in the world could do better.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:37 AM
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45. Better how? By boinking a blonde, implanted "pageant queen"?
Just wondering. For all of Monica's emotional problems, she was very attractive, well-groomed, educated, and pretty close to a normal (ie REAL) size for an American woman. Now, if Big Dawg had boinked Paula Jones, I would agree, because she was (and is) NONE of those things).

Again, I will at least give him kudos for lusting after real-looking women (Hillary, Monica, etc.)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:39 AM
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46. And, she also wasn't fat
Maybe a size above healthy weight. Most healthy women aren't a size 2 or 4, but a size 10. Actually having a shape doesn't equate to being obese.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 09:45 AM
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55. Louis Freeh IGNORED 9-11 warnings.
Freeh's a BFEE turdball of the first stank.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:50 PM
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2. But in all of these scandals, and how I wish he were back, no
one died because of them. Just think about what is happening today with the brain-dead asshole we have in that office now. Wonder what Freeh thinks of Bush? Probably he can do no WRONG in his eyes.
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:54 PM
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4. The truth is there was NO scandal.
At least not where it concerned Bill and Hillary Clinton.

The REAL scandal was in the fascists' attempt to destabilize a legitimately elected government by diverting Clinton's attention to phony scandals instead of doing the nation's business.

Don't EVER forget the "scandals" weren't about Bill Clinton at all; taken together this was a power grab, and this set the stage for everything that was to follow.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:03 PM
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9. right, and this jackass doesn't know that yet? He really is a clueless one
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:51 PM
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3. Like Toesucker Dick Morris,
Louis Freeh is trying to ride his former boss's coattails by trashing him.

What a slimebucket.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:54 PM
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5. Clinton's biggest mistake was not prosecuting Freeh for fraud, conspiracy,
negligent homicide, and being a one stupid mother fucker. He was Clinton's Michael Brown. I cursed Clinton every day I woke up and heard the Louis Freeh had a job.

The funny thing will be to see if Repubs buy his lies. They hated him while he was in the FBI. Let's see if they rally around him just so they can trash Clinton one last time, or if they have the last little shred of humanity left in them to spit in Freeh's face.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:05 PM
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12. the will love him, he's already been assured of that
why clinton didn't fire him I can't understand.
(well maybe I can but I don't want to go there right now)
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:01 PM
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7. If I had as much 9/11 shit on my conscience as Freeh, I'd be crazy too.

Worst FBI director ever, at a time when we needed the best.

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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:01 PM
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8. Clinton was a fool not to have demanded resignations on day 1
he should have cleaned house
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:03 PM
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10. O'Neil, "terror czar" calls Freeh a bullshitter. So does Congress.
Guess Freeh didn't bother reading the 2 911 Commission reports that praised CLINTON and slammed bush.

Oh, and on WHOSE WATCH did 911 happen???
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:04 PM
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11. I'd love to see Clinton confront this accuser!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:06 PM
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13. Clinton Should Publicly Confront this Freeh-kkk Guy
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 09:07 PM by stepnw1f
I'm sure Bill would whoop his ass in a public debate and garner public support for his wife. That's genius...
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:09 PM
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14. Freeh-per......
put it together.....
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 10:02 AM
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56. Freeh-dom's on the march.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:11 PM
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15. Somebody inform him all they got on Bill was a blow job.
asshole.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:20 PM
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17. And remind him who John O'Neill was, what he did and how he died.
And then remind Freeh what he did.

Self-centered, Luddite asshole.

:grr:


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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:56 PM
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47. John O'Neill
All I can say is... a true patriot. May he rest in peace. :patriot:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:05 PM
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50. "John started telling Louis things Louis didn't want to hear," Clarke said
Freeh was initially optimistic that the Saudis would cooperate, but O'Neill became increasingly frustrated, and eventually a rift seems to have developed between the two men. "John started telling Louis things Louis didn't want to hear," Clarke said. "John told me that, after one of the many trips he and Freeh took to the Mideast to get better cooperation from the Saudis, they boarded the Gulfstream to come home and Freeh says, 'Wasn't that a great trip? I think they're really going to help us.' And John says, 'You've got to be kidding. They didn't give us anything. They were just shining sunshine up your ass.' For the next twelve hours, Freeh didn't say another word to him."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.03A.oneill.nyer.htm


Freeh is an incompetent pissant.



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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:15 PM
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18. Louie - another Opus Dei freako a-hole. eom
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:20 PM
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19. Clinton should have fired Freeh and Tenet

On grounds of inability to perform their duty cheerfully, partisan activity incompatible with effectiveness at their jobs, or something like that. At some level "that guy is just a fucking drag to try to work with" is an adequate reason to fire people.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:37 AM
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20. Let's do the time warp again.
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 01:01 AM by countmyvote4real
After Katrina and FEMA the MSM is high on teething reports, but still doesn’t dare to address, investigate or expose the “there” that is here, now. Instead, the media will take a break from poor Natalee Holloway and the devastated Katrina pets to ponder and expose the already confirmed as “no there, there” scandals of the Clinton administration. I’m sure they will all link this book to a potential Hillary run for POTUS. (I’m actually OK with any off-putting results from that stupid leap. I no longer consider myself to be part of her base because it’s really a vice versa situation.)

Anyway, the MSM will reconstruct stories about the past and masturbate their selves on future speculation in order to avoid any serious reporting on the huge present-day elephant in the room that is the * administration’s unjustified invasion of Iraq. Oh, right. The MSM cheered them on and they won’t take it back because they think that would be weak and Merka won’t trust them anymore. Hello? As long as we’re going to do the time warp again, the MSM sold us * over Gore in 2000 and the majority of Merkans didn’t buy it then either. The SCOTUS had another point of view and it wasn’t Democracy.

While I don’t believe there should be a time limit or shelf life for investigative reporting, I do believe that it should be prioritized by a “real and present” danger status regardless of any past sucking-up “egg on your face” false reports and positions. I should just call it what it is. It’s propaganda and MSM is complicit in it, but MSM is either too embarrassed, beneficial or hugely over rated (deflated) by their perceived fourth estate status. Either way, we are going to do another time warp again.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:42 AM
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21. Clinton gave Freeh millions of dollars to spend on terror investigations
which Freeh spent on something like cybercrime completely unrelated to terror without reporting that that was what he was doing. (I remember reading this in 2003.)

This is how he's covering his ass. By saying that sexual transgressions meant he couldn't trust Clinton. That is LAME AS HELL.
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:50 AM
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22. The name of the game is -- Get the Rethugs riled up about the Clintons,
and get their minds off Shrub!

Smear the left before it can move on its own, as it begins to very very incredibly slowly move on its on behalf.

Get the far left riled up, too -- not only did Hillary vote for the war knowingly and willingly because she is in bed with the right -- but she was part of that whole Clinton thing where Bill was in bed with everyone.

Smear it thick and well. 60 Minutes, what are you up to?

(some sarcasm here)
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:04 AM
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23. Another diversion from the soon to be coming indictments....
Freeh will be laughed off the stage.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:13 AM
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25. "Freeh cited investigations involving ...Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones and
...Gennifer Flowers." Wow, why are these f*ckers so consumed/obsessed over Clinton's penis?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:41 AM
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29. it sure is distracting from TORTURE, QUAGMIRE and
this country's WORST pRESIDENT in it's HISTORY and all of his FAILINGS! Clinton's penis always wins out over those minor events.

:grr:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:08 AM
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30. Clinton envy.
:rofl:
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MaineYooper Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:57 AM
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33. The Clenis is all-consuming for these guys.
Once it has been mentioned, nothing else matters.

It is become death, the destroyer of worlds.

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:45 AM
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41. Meanwhile, the 9/11 hijackers entered the country and took some
basic flying lessons, showing interest in basic controls but not landing aircraft.

"But by God, I'm gonna stop Clinton and his ragin' penis!"

Way to go, Lou, you incompetent hack.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:56 AM
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26. Clinton just should have kept William Sessions at the FBI
Louie Freeh somehow felt it necessary to assign 78 FBI agents to Ken Starr's office. That's 78 agents who could have been doing counter-terrorism.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:35 AM
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27. Lets see, Monica Lewinsky or Abu Grahaib? Hmmm. It's a tough...
...decision. Gonna have to take Monica on this one.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:36 AM
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31. Good God, get over it Freeh, you partisan hack.
Clinton has been out of office for five years. It's done, it's over. Who cares what you think. The culture of corruption has taken over and you are one of their tools.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:36 AM
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32. Louie Freeh
was Guliani's number two in the US Atty's office, SDNY. Then he "ascended" to the bench where he was pain in the ass.

If he disliked Clinton so much he should have resigned. He forgot that the American people did not elect him - Bill Clinton appointed him - that's who he answered to - it's the chain of command.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:09 AM
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35. Boy, oh boy, did Sean Insannity have a field day
with this yesterday on the radio.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:26 AM
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37. I can imagine so
I'v estopped listening to hate radio-I don't need the strife regardless of how ridiculous it all is.

The funny part about this to me is:

Freeh seems to be consumed and distracted by scandals that were fruitless and served only to distract Clinton and for political purposes. There was nothing there and they knew nothing was there but that didn't matter-portraying themselves as virtuous (vs. the heathen liberals) was the whole point...and this didn't register with the head of the FBI????? Wow talk about naive and childlike.

Okay so it's not so funny.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:19 AM
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36. And we wonder why 9/11 happened....
It's because of pricks like Former FBI director Louis J. Freeh so busy worrying about who's sucking the presidents dick that he couldn't do and probably didn't do his job. Man people need to stop sweating the little stuff. Get a life Freeh. :spank:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:27 AM
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38. Jousting at windmill scandals
Freeh seems to be consumed and distracted by scandals that were fruitless and served only to distract Clinton and for political purposes. There was nothing there and they knew nothing was there but that didn't matter-portraying themselves as virtuous (vs. the heathen liberals) was the whole point...and this didn't register with the head of the FBI????? Wow talk about naive and childlike.

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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:37 AM
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39. Funny thing about timing....
Just as the * empire is about to implode and on the heels of Clinton tentatively becoming more vocal in his disagreements with the current regime, this "book" hits the stands.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............................

:think:
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:42 AM
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40. I See Freeh In His French Kepi Hat
I see Louis Freeh in much the same light as I see those French generals who presided over their country's defeat at the hands of the Nazis in 1940--an arrogant, unimaginative, paper-pushing, secretive empire-building bureaucrat who hated and distrusted the civilian authorities to whom he answered so much that his actions paved the way for the successful Al Qaeda attacks in December, 2000 and on September 11th, 2001. If it hadn't been for Freeh's compartmentalization, secrecy, and arrogance, the American death toll on September 11th, 2001 would have been hundreds, if not thousands, lower.

Lurking Freeperstanis can take my remarks back to their caravanserai.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:58 AM
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43. I would rather have a guy cheating on his wife, than embezzling the countr
any day.

I can't believe this guy started talking about clinton having no morals in this article. The man donated 20k to BUSH.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:15 PM
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48. Freeh works for Bush...Always has.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:31 PM
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49. Newsflash for ya, Freeh:
Clinton hasn't been President for more than five years now. Just fucking GET OVER IT, already, would you? Get over this weird, sick obsession with the man's goddamned sex life and MOVE ON! Go pay somebody to blow you, or something, just SHUT UP ALREADY.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:39 PM
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51. Good thing he appointed republicans
He should've never done that.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:50 PM
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52. Freeh spent so much time investigating Clinton, he let the terrorist
get away. His eyes was definitley not on the ball unless it was Clinton's.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:40 PM
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53. Freeh is just another Opus Dei stooge who can go fuck himself
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 09:38 AM
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54. The Times coverage:
Clinton skeletons burst out of cupboard unlocked by the FBI
From Tim Reid in Washington



IN THE summer of 1998, as the Monica Lewinsky scandal closed in around him, Bill Clinton was hosting an official White House dinner when he told his guests he needed to visit the bathroom.
Excusing himself, he left the table. But, unknown to his guests, he walked in humiliated fury not to the bathroom, but to the White House Map Room. Waiting for him were FBI doctors and a federal prosecutor, there to take his blood sample to see of it matched the DNA on Ms Lewinsky’s now infamous semen-stained dress.

This extraordinary episode, which remained secret until yesterday, is recounted in an explosive new book by Louis Freeh, the FBI Director during the 1990s.

Mr Freeh writes for the first time about his appalling relationship with the President who appointed him, and the endless stream of scandals that made Mr Clinton the constant target of FBI investigations.

“The problem was with Bill Clinton — the scandals and the rumoured scandals, the incubating ones and the dying ones never ended,” Mr Freeh writes in My FBI: Bringing Down the Mafia, Investigating Bill Clinton, and Fighting the War on Terror.

“Whatever moral compass the President was consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were full of skeletons just waiting to burst out. We were preoccupied in eight years with multiple investigations.” The scandals included the Whitewater inquiry and Mr Clinton’s affairs with Ms Lewinsky, Paula Jones and Gennifer Flowers.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1816654,00.html
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:09 AM
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57. A Bitter Bitter Man
I heard Freeh being interviewed for about 10 full minutes on NPR yesterday morning. The audio should be available at www.npr.org.

He sounded extremely bitter towards Clinton. He tried to restrain himself in not openly saying that Clinton should have resigned after BJGate, but his hostility came through clearly. He said that in all the years that Clinton and he served together, he only met with Clinton 6 times.

He had the gall to attack the Clinton administration for having followed a "law enforcement approach" to combating terrorism. The FBI reportedly had 75 agents investigating Clinton for BJGate. Their crime labs were busy with the blue dress. Exactly what was his agency doing about tracking down the terror cells inside the US? I read that there were very few FBI resources following the terrorist's financial links.

It reminded me of the times when J. Edgar Hoover was investigating everyone's sex life, instead of fighting organized crime.
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