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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:50 AM
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Bush, Santorum get low ratings in poll of voters
Bush, Santorum get low ratings in poll of voters
Survey also finds dramatic drop in Iraq war support
Friday, October 07, 2005

By James O'Toole, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A new poll of Pennsylvania voters found plunging approval ratings for President Bush, the war in Iraq and Sen. Rick Santorum, the Republican whose re-election bid figures to be one of the premier races in the country next year.

The survey, conducted by Quinnipiac University, depicted the president and Mr. Santorum with their lowest overall approval ratings since the school's researchers began polling in the state several years ago. The poll also showed that a strong majority felt that it had been a mistake to go to war in Iraq, a dramatic drop in support over the past year.

In a trial heat against his anticipated opponent next year, state Treasurer Bob Casey Jr., Mr. Santorum trailed by the daunting margin of 52 to 34 percent.

More than three in five of the voters surveyed, 61 percent, said they disapproved of Mr. Bush's performance in office while 37 percent approved and just 3 percent were undecided. A little more than a month before the 2004 election, when Mr. Bush narrowly lost Pennsylvania to the Democratic nominee, U.S. Sen. John Kerry, the state's voters were about evenly split on Bush's job performance.
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05280/584293.stm
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:51 AM
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1. Lowest Approval Ratings Ever
Well done, Sen. Man-on-Dog.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:53 AM
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2. Either Santorum is going to move towards the middle or...
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 11:55 AM by LynneSin
...he's going to find an excuse to bow out of the election. Tricky-Dick Jr isn't done with politics but a major upset for his re-election bids will pretty much put a nail into this coffin. Santorum would like to run for President in 2008 or possibly for Governor in 2010 (In Pennsylvania). He also has options in his home state of Virginia - he could run for a seat if one of the 2 open up (I'm sure warner is close to retirement).

The main thing is Rick can't risk being over-poweringly defeated. Bob Casey Jr. can run up a massive war chest to run his campaign and has the distinction of receiving more votes in a statewide PA race than any other candidate ever including presidential candidates (last year for his re-election bid for PA Treasurer and yes he had an opponent).

Finally, PA isn't as Black Box voter friendly. I've heard that some questionable voting machines have made it into the state, but mainly in republican strongholds. The Secretary of State is a democrat AND he has decertified a few unqualified machines. And there will be an overwhelming presense of election watchdogs in the Philly/Pittsburgh area.
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:26 PM
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12. Santorum? Move towards the MIDDLE?
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!! :rofl:

Ohhhh, Mercy, that's funny!

Ricky doesn't even know where the middle IS, much less how to find his way there without looking like a complete vote-pandering ass....which, coincidentally, he's already got covered, but it's pandering to the far-right, which comes naturally to him.

I'd pay money to see him try, though...on any issue, any issue at all...the deficit, Iraq, healthcare....social issues (snicker)...He'd make Bush's eye-blinking from the last debates look like heroin addict on the nod. Not to mention, Ricky's said SO much stupid shit over the last several years, any PA resident with access to Google would be able to find MULTIPLE contradictions from him.

No, I think like most conservatives next year, he'll find out that the "Republican Revolutiuon" they've been enjoying - started in the 90's with the "Contract with (on) America" and seemingly cemented with *'s re-election - has swung too far to the right and the public is bucking the trend back to the left/middle, leaving idealogues like Ricky S.O.L.

Which, as a former resident of Philly with plenty of friends in PA (no pun on the state motto intended), I couldn't be happier about.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:32 PM
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13. He did it 6 years ago
Like supporting the McCain Anti-torture law. Come on, if Ricky boy wasn't up for re-election he would have supported Bush all the way. But he can't have torture commericial being run against him in his re-election bid so he was stuck supporting McCain
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:31 PM
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16. He also supported Kerry's bill
to provide money/assistance for heating in the coming winter months because of rising fuel prices.

It is amusing watching the piece of shit squirm now that approval ratings are so low. That's a huge hurdle though. For an incumbent to be that far below is not a good sign...
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:33 PM
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17. Stop dragging Tricky Dick's name through the mud!
;)
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:55 AM
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3. Yes but the 04 election was their accountability moment
according to them and Diebold Election Systems.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:57 AM
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4. Excuse me a moment while I laugh my ass off.
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 12:02 PM by Deep13
*thud!*
There, all done.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:59 AM
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5. Experts and analysts agree that that is pretty much based on ...
how much both

SUCK!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:02 PM
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6. I've wondered how Santorum survives in a very purple state
when he's such a very, very red guy.

david
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:08 PM
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8. Simple answer: Weak opponents
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 12:14 PM by JPZenger
Santorum had did not have strong opponents in his two Senate elections. If he had gone up against a strong candidate, such as Bob Casey, in the past, he never would have been elected.

In 2000, Santorum defeated Ron Who? Klink. He was a former TV newsman who only won because the Democratic Party was so divided in the primary.

When Santorum was first elected in 1994, he defeated Harris Wofford. Wofford was a well-meaning intelligent person. However, it was too easy to paint Wofford as a liberal in the year of the "Contract With America." Wofford had pushed for national health insurance, which was being ridiculed in 1994.

The long tradition in PA. is to elect moderate Republicans to the Senate, such as Spector, John Heinz and Richard Schweiker. Santorum is an extreme exception. I believe most PA. voters didn't know much about Santorum until he went on his recent wacky-comment of the week campaign.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:13 PM
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9. Just like DeWine in Ohio! nt
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:19 PM
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11. The same question can be asked...
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 12:19 PM by mduffy31
...of how Mitt Romny got elected in the "Socialist State of Taxachussets." :sarcasm:
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:04 PM
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7. This is what happens when we let a woman out of the house,
The next thing you know she's talking out against good Republicans...Read Ricky's book and report in the morning!:sarcasm:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:04 PM
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22. My thoughts exactly
How much support does he think he is going to get when he says women working for wages and not staying home (making more babies and homeschooling according to "gods will") is going to win him female votes?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:13 PM
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10. Makes you wish all those Republicans would publish a book. n/t
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:03 PM
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14. I'm sure they'll dig up that Bob Casey slept with a 17 year old girl
....................................................................when he was 18:eyes:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:56 PM
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21. Better that than Rick with a 10 year old boy
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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15.  Dick Sanctorium is history
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:00 PM
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18. Is it any surprise? There's not much difference
between the two. Santorum is always right up the Monkey's ass. I think Santorum is more of a wing-nut than the Monkey.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:02 PM
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19. Maybe people are starting to awake from the stiffling effects of religion
in this country.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:05 PM
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20. Put that scumbag pombum from Tracy up and you will likely get the same...
results.

I don't think the majority of Californians want more oil rigs parked off our fine coastline.
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