Palestinian: Bush spoke of Iraq as divine mission (stands by recollection)

[sabra]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L07157901.htm

Palestinian: Bush spoke of Iraq as divine mission

JERUSALEM, Oct 7 (Reuters) - A Palestinian leader quoted George W. Bush as saying God told him to invade Iraq, but said he did not take the U.S. president's comment literally and saw it only as a reflection of his faith and commitment.

...

Shaath said he stood by his recollection of Bush saying he had been "driven with a mission from God" when he sent U.S. troops into Iraq and Afghanistan and also lent his support to the eventual creation of a Palestinian state.

But Shaath told Reuters on Friday: "We never thought that he literally had God speaking to him".

Underscoring the White House denial, Abbas's office said in a statement that the Palestinian president "never heard President Bush making any statement linking what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq with any religious points of view".

[tatertop]

1. Does anyone actually doubt Bush said it?

[sabra]

2. Scottie McMuffin?

[tatertop]

5. ah yes... the Muffin believes

[ninkasi]

12. Nope

I don't doubt it for a minute.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

3. See? Here's the problem...

"We never thought that he literally had God speaking to him".

no one of even average intelligence believes this guy is THAT delusional...but he is.

[soleft]

4. In Haraetz, I believe they said he said this to Abbas

Can't someone get Abbas to cooberate?

[sabra]

6. me things * called Abbas earlier this week, and called in a favor...

[daleo]

7. Shaath - "We just thought he was lying, as usual"

"I mean who would have figured him to be that crazy?"

[SpiralHawk]

8. Was Bush lying then, or is he lying now?

I believe JEHOVAH will want to look into this. And maybe the rest of the ELOHIM as well, since the Bible Infallibly tells us there are Many Many Many Gods for Believers. Check out your Genesis.

[texpatriot2004]

9. Article posted by Duer in LBN - Scotsman says he did

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1834887&mesg_id=1835280

[lumpy]

10. To paraphrase 'God works through me"

As told by Bush to the Amish. They are not accustomed to lying. Bush's references to God/faith is not news. No matter how Bush phrased the statements to the Palestinians, I'm comvonce he is 'tipped over' enough to really believe he is doing God's work.

[rodeodance]

11. Shaath got paid off- simple as that!

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Bush God comments 'not literal'

7 October 2005

A Palestinian official who said the US president had claimed God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan says he did not take George Bush's words literally.

Nabil Shaath said he and other world leaders at a Jordan summit two years ago did not believe Mr Bush thought God had given him a personal message.

Mr Bush's spokesman said the original allegation, which will appear in a BBC documentary next week, was absurd.

Scott McClellan said the comments had never been made.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4320586.stm


So first he said it, then they denied he said it, then he said it but it wasn't meant to be taken literally? I'm so confused.

[xray s]

14. It's all about The Base

This whole story is food for Bush's base. Just propping up Bush's collapsing mineshaft.

(interesting that The Base is the English translation of Al Qaeda)

[JohnnyCougar]

15. Sigh...

:banghead:

[politicaholic]

17. Excuse me, move over, I need to share some of that wall...

:banghead:
:banghead:

[UpInArms]

33. is there room on that wall for me, too?

:banghead:
:banghead:
:banghead:

[Burried News]

16. By their ability to create confusion you will know them.

Just ask Mayor Bloomberg of NYC or Nagin of New Orleans.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. You mean Bloomberg?

n/t

[Burried News]

23. Thanks - that's embarassing - lived first half of my life in NYC.

Bush pulled the rug out from under him pretty bad. Bet alot of New Yorkers had horrible commutes today.

[DoYouEverWonder]

27. I did too

I grew up in Astoria.

:hi:

[Democrats_win]

25. That's a good one!

[Bigmack]

18. I take it literally....

... just like the fundies take the Bible.

A little modification of that fundie bumpersticker you might have seen:
"If Bush said it... I believe it... that settles it!"

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

20. I see. It was just taken out of context,

Kind of like Bill Bennet's aborting all blacks would stop crime comment.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. I guess it's only okay to take the bible out of context?

n/t

[koopie57]

21. bush said god told him to invade iraq ....

how could he mean that if not that god told him to invade iraq? was god being a little scamp that day? or was he being naughty? or just having a little sport with bush?

[No Exit]

22. Not meant to be taken literally? Oh, like the bible isn't meant

to be taken literally, oh, okay...

[Gyre]

26. Why wouldn't chimp say something stupid to Palestinians?

He only does it to us ALL THE TIME!!! WTF does KKKarl know about Palestinians other than what he's learned in Chuck Norris movies?

Gyre

[anotherdrew]

28. so that means he Took the Lords Name in Vain then right?

call Judge Moore to punish him for breaking the commandment

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

29. See how reasonable they are? So I'm sure they

would understand and accept that many people don't take the Bible Literally either.

:sarcasm:

Can we say flip flop, flip flop, flip flop???

[spacelady]

30. A correction is in order--"Bush God comments 'not literate'".

Tongue firmly in cheek.

[Maccagirl]

31. God is going to sue Bush for libel AND slander

The Diety has finally had it and his lawyer will be in touch shortly.

[nothometoday]

32. Oh...Pleeeeze

It must be true....Bush would NOT lie.


Would love to write more.....but I am off puking.

[MiniMe]

34. Bush doesn't know anything about being subtle......

and that would include saying anything that you shouldn't "take literally".

[MADem]

35. But ain't Bushie one of those clowns who believes in the LITERAL BIBLE? nt

[texpatriot2004]

36. Article posted by Duer - Scotsman Newspaper quotes him

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1834887&mesg_id=1835280

[ninkasi]

37. Bush has been invoking God in his war for a long time...

Saddams an article from 2003, regarding his State of the Union address...

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0307/S00138.htm

From the article...

"By making statements about God Blessing America in the war on Iraq, did U.S. President George Bush inadvertently make it a Holy War?

In his State of the Union Address President Bush stated that, “With the might of God on our side we will triumph over Iraq. God will watch over our troops and grant us a victory over the threat of Saddam’s army. God will bless us and keep us safe in the coming battle.”

With those words he adopted an American National God as protector. He united a nation under the banner of a single, vengeful, protecting God. And what seemed at the time like just flag waving and glorifying the U.S. had a much darker background.

In effect Bush's words made this a holy war, whether or not it was his actual intention. By saying God was on our side and would carry us to victory in Iraq, Bush invoked religious precedent, seeking god's domination, protection, and sanction. Iraq meanwhile is predominantly of the Muslim or Islamic faith, and it's peoplehave veryy strong beliefs in Allah - God in Arabic."

There is no doubt in my mind, at least, that Bush is either conning the radical religious right, or is insane, and truly believes that God really told him to destroy, maim, and kill innocent Iraqis. He can no longer claim Saddam as the reason, because Saddam has not been a factor in this war for quite awhile. This man Chimp is not fit to serve any elective office, much less that of President.

[Occulus]

38. His comments point to something more.

I wonder if anyone took him aside at some point and convinced him. Aren't the Bushes tight with the Moons? And didn't that crazy-ass Rev. Moon crown himself as the second coming of Christ?

What a horrid thought. Moon runs a cult Bush is part of, and MOON "ordered" the "mission from God"?

I think I need to cut my consumption or something. I will stand by a previous assessment on another thread: get all these people together for ten minutes without them talking and you'd get a real life version of the end of a Scooby-Doo episode if you then talked everything through.

[Violet_Crumble]

39. Abbas denies Bush's 'mission from God' remark

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has denied an account by another Palestinian official of a meeting with US President George Bush in which Bush is cited as saying he believed that God told him to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

A statement in Abbas's name released by his office said an excerpt from an interview with Palestinian Information Minister Nabil Shaath due to be broadcast by the BBC in which Shaath described a meeting with Bush in June 2003 gave a "completely false" account.

In the interview for the series, Israel and the Arabs, Shaath described the meeting, at which he said Abbas was present.

"President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did. And then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq.' And I did,'" Shaath said.

"This report is not true," the Abbas statement said today. "I have never heard President Bush talking about religion as a reason behind the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. President Bush has never mentioned that in front of me on any occasion and specifically not during my visit in 2003."


http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/abbas-denies-bushs-mission-from-god-remark/2005/10/08/1128563027485.html