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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:59 PM
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McCain chides Schwarzenegger over staged rallies
What did McCain expect from Ah-nold!! She-it!

October 10, 2005

OAKLAND, California (Reuters) - Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) joined
Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday to promote the California governor's November ballot initiatives, but afterward chided his carefully staged campaign events.

The Arizona Republican senator appeared with the governor before a crowd of about 150 invited women, who cheered wildly when Schwarzenegger arrived and frequently applauded as he touted the benefits of California initiatives on budget reform, teachers, and redistricting.

As at many of Schwarzenegger's campaign events, outsiders were not allowed to attend what the governor's office called a "town hall meeting" at a hotel near Oakland's airport. Union protesters gathered outside the venue carrying signs.

more...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051011/pl_nm/schwarzenegger_mccain_dc
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:00 PM
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1. So why didn't McCain ever complain about the staged * events?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:02 PM
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2. Because he was at them.
;)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:26 PM
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37. Sen. McCain campaigns for Schwarzenegger initiatives
BURBANK, California (AP) -- With his popularity at an all-time low, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger turned Monday to Republican Sen. John McCain to help sell his November ballot proposals to a skeptical public.

In appearances with the governor in Burbank and Oakland, the Arizona senator urged California voters to support the four initiatives backed by Schwarzenegger on the special election ballot. <snip>

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/11/schwarzenegger.mccain.ap/

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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:04 PM
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6. Exactly. McCain, you continue to disappoint.
:yoiks:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:30 PM
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11. Yep, forgiveness comes only when ya tell the complete truth!
Needless to say that he was threatenned to never say a word.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:09 AM
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23. Did he love him up with a big hug, like he did Porgie? nt
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:14 PM
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38. Yeah, this one, where he's getting to 3rd base. Gross.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 06:53 AM
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31. Exactly!
It's all hypocrisy.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:35 AM
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36. so his children would live?
I saw the clip of McCain tearing Bush a new asshole in the 2000 primaries over the smear campaigns, and I can't believe that his later embrace was uncoerced.

Arnold is as much a Karl Rove creation as Bush, and serves exactly the same interests (minus the religious right window dressing which doesn't play as well here).

Kicking at Arnold is an obvious passive agressive swipe at the Tard at the Top.

I hope he keeps it up.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:02 PM
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3. i get it
this is Like the guy, who's angry about work... but rather than say or do something about it, hoLds it in tiLL he gets home and beat's his famiLy.

john knows fuLL weLL where ahnoLd Learned the stage gimmick from, but john has too whipped to say anything to dubya about it.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:03 PM
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4. great analysis, Sniffa! I agree!
What did he think the RNC convention was about last year??
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:03 PM
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5. Kinda Like that Staged Hug He Gave Bush
Good luck GOP....
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:08 PM
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7. McCain, trying to shore up his "maverick" image
Just don't remind McCain of his own appearances at Bush's scripted rallies.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 06:48 AM
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29. He Was For The Scripted Rallied
before he was against them. Yeah, that's it
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:21 PM
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8. Sounds like he is following Bush's plan to the letter - and right into the
isolation bubble.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:22 PM
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9. Niether of those repuke asswipes has any credibility in CA
Protesters dog the gropinator wherever he goes. His poll numbers are in the shitter. I don't see any of his idiotic ballot initiatives passing.

McCain should go back to licking the chimp's butthole and stay the hell out of the Golden State. He's not welcome here!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:24 PM
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10. Fuck Prop 75 == "Paycheck Protection," ie,
de-funding the Unions so Ahnold's corporate puppet strings have no counter at all. Hey to all my fellow CA DUers -- talk it up, a lot of people don't want to vote in this thing at all THIS IS IMPORTANT! Let them know that we are only a UNION STATE if we fight for Union wages, benefits, and influence, DON'T LET THEM TAKE IT AWAY!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 12:03 AM
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21. tru dat, and i'll add
NO on ALL of the initiatives! ahnold can go cheney himself! :mad:
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:54 PM
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40. No ! Not No on All the initiatives. Vote yes on 79 and 80!
Both 79 and 80 are consumer-group sponsored initiatives

79 will give a prescription benefit (this is the good one of the two competing prescription initiatives - the other one, 78, is sponsored by the drug companies.

80 will reregulate the energy companies. This is sponsored by TURN, the consumer group that tried to save us this first time.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:35 PM
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12. Notice it was AFTER he attended them that he chided them.
Right, mccain, that gives you all kinds of credibility...and we won't talk about *'s staged events.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:37 PM
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13. Standard Repug tactic.
Stage fake rallies with fake audiences of cheering admirers, and that is what will be on TV. Duhbya did it to perfection in 04, as we all know.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:18 PM
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15. and the sheepies will say--look at all those people who are cheering.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:51 PM
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14. Fuckin' assholes.
"Town Hall Meetings" - just like Fuhrer Bush and his canned rallies.

Last time I checked, a town hall in America was open to the public. These asswipes just like to stage propaganda rallies because they lack the courage to face the REAL public.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 06:50 AM
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30. Democratic Town Hall Meetings Usually Are
more democratic, and open to every one.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:45 PM
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16. McCain is nothing but a hypocrite
:spank:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:49 PM
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17. Damn the staging of it all!
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 10:52 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:51 PM
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18. Sounds like McCain is staging indignation at Ah-nuhls staged rallies.
Getting a head start on that 2008 image.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:25 PM
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19. Yep, shinin' up that independent maverick cred...
what a tool--of course, it will probably work.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:57 PM
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20. Isn't a crowd of 150 awfully small?
I rarely have a chance to go to any rallies, but I went to the Dean rally here in Atlanta. There were a whole lot more than 150 people!!!

It was jam packed and even in GA, Howard got ovations continuously throughout his speech!

I would think Arnie should have drawn a whole lot more than 150 in Ca! Unless he'slost all his supporters????
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:04 AM
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22. maybe he is paying them and this is all they could afford??!!!
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:25 AM
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24. That is exactly what I thought, NVMojo. Would not surprise me. n/t
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 05:21 AM
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27. they've turned the art of being "phony" to a masterpiece of crap!
when is this liars parade going to be over???
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:26 AM
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25. mccain, what California does is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
get the hell out of MY STATE you carpetbagging pimp




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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 05:13 AM
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26. Wonder what it costs these days
for 150 "extras" for 3 hours in California. I know there's a union rate, but I'm outta touch with the current union scale right now.
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Garrett Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 06:44 AM
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28. I'm guessing the crowd
was larger than 150 outside the building. Schwarzenegger has stopped announcing his appearances, because the protesters follow him everywhere. He only does private, secure parties for the last couple of months.

There's beginning to be some local support for a real Recall Arnold movement here. YES!~!
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:42 AM
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32. ...shades of Fascism...nothing like a well orchestrated rally to get
the "fuhrer" in the right spirits...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 09:20 AM
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33. McCain isn't going to be helping the Gropenfuher at all
i think many of my fellow Californians feel like i do no matter what their political stripe is---You don't live here, you have no say in our state---go home you Bush enabler.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 09:24 AM
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34. McCain as Nathan Thurm..."was that me, was I at that event?"
Gawd! I think he really may need professional help.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:12 AM
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35. Does this mean McCain will no longer appear with the groper? Otherwise,
just shut up John. We are not interested in your little window dressing self-serving blandishments.
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:41 PM
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39. Secret "Town Hall Meeting" TODAY in Santa Barbara
Arnold has arranged (through secret phone calls)to hold a town hall meeting today in Santa Barbara.
The location has been kept secret until he got his RSVPs from SB, Carpinteria, Goleta etc. chamber members.
Tentative location: Marborg Disposal

SB News Press (subscription required)
http://news.newspress.com/topsports/101205governor.htm?now=35864&tref=1

Local News
ELECTION 2005: Governor keeps S.B. visit quiet

10/12/05


NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITER

Invitation-only meeting part of effort to boost four ballot initiatives
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is in Santa Barbara today for a Town Hall meeting -- except very few locals were actually invited, much less informed of the event.
...
The Santa Barbara Chamber of Commerce confirmed receiving a somewhat cryptic phone call Monday afternoon, offering invitations for up to 10 members to attend the forum at an undisclosed location Wednesday morning. The Goleta and Carpinteria Valley Chambers of Commerce received similar announcements.
...
On Tuesday afternoon, none of the organizations would say specifically where or when the meeting would take place, only that they were to refer all inquiries to the governor's office.

Not until after 5 p.m. Tuesday did the governor's press office make a formal announcement of the meeting, billed as a "town hall," starting at 11:30 a.m. at MarBorg Industries headquarters on North Quarantina Street. The office did not specify if the governor would attend other events while in town.
......





So, Girly Man Schwarzenegger is afraid of the public...hence the stealth campaign to rustle up support for his initiatives.

If you can go....PLEASE do. I know it's short notice.

Union members from Santa Barbara IAFF (Fire Dept.) will be there.
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:07 PM
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41. There's no "chiding" in that article.
Their headline was totally misleading. McCain says town hall meetings are good but failed to mention that only hand picked audience members were allowed to attend and the meetings arranged in secret. These are NOT Town Hall Meetings Ahnuld is arranging...they are photo op propaganda sessions.

The fact is: McCain showed support in person for Arnold's union busting initiatives.

Apart from that, I don't believe a word out of McCain's mouth. He "pretends" to be a maverick but has a rotten agenda of his own and votes with the Ripoff Republicans not against them. He can't have it both ways. He didn't criticize Ahnuld at all. Nor did he chide him.


chide
verb
1 Call_on_the_carpet, rebuke, rag, trounce, reproof, lecture, reprimand, jaw, dress_down, call_down, scold, chide, berate, bawl_out, remonstrate, chew_out, chew_up, have_words, lambaste, lambast
...



Another fact: Today's "Town Hall Meeting" in Santa Barbara was kept a secret from us until people started calling the Santa Barbara News Press for further information...the location and time.


Yesterday:
http://news.newspress.com/topsports/101205br_arnold.htm
Governor pushing agenda in Santa Barbara

10/11/05
...
The invitation-only town hall meeting comes on the heels of two similar events Monday with the go-to guy when things get tough, Sen. John McCain. In joint appearances in Burbank and Oakland, the Arizona Republican urged voters to support four initiatives -- Propositions 74, 75, 76 and 77 -- that Mr. Schwarzenegger is pushing in the election ballot.

The location of Wednesday's event is being kept secret until participants RSVP.
...

Today:
http://news.newspress.com/topsports/101205governor.htm?now=35864&tref=1
ELECTION 2005: Governor keeps S.B. visit quiet
10/12/05
...
On Tuesday afternoon, none of the organizations would say specifically where or when the meeting would take place, only that they were to refer all inquiries to the governor's office.
...


To chide Arnold, McCain would have had to point out the facts. He didn't do that.


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