BUSH: RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OF HARRIET MIERS ARE PART OF THE REASON HE PICKED

[sabra]

http://abcnews.go.com/



BUSH: RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OF HARRIET MIERS ARE PART OF THE REASON HE PICKED HER FOR SUPREME COURT

[brentspeak]

1. Yeah, she worships Bush

[grytpype]

2. That is so true! You are the best ever!!!!

xoxoxoxo

- Harriet

ps xOXOXOXOXoxoxoxOXOXXO

[Cha]

8. The one true god.

miers will bow down before no other.

[MADem]

42. Because he is SO COOL!! She (hearts) Bush 4EVER!! nt

[back2basics909]

3. How many more ways can he say...

.."she will overturn Roe vs Wade!".

Sad fact is half of the conservative backlash know she will, but don't want her anyway. Culter was saying she knows she would overturn R vs W but does not want her because she has no experiance.

It's wonderfull.

[soleft]

11. Republicans don't want to win, they want to hurt

They wanted a paleoconservative fire breathing gay hating abortion foe and it pisses them off they can't ram one down our throats.

They've been deprived of their sack dance.

[xxqqqzme]

4. that's one of those

Well duh! headlines. ABC just catching on?

[AllegroRondo]

5. What about the Constitution?

There shall be no religious test for any Government office.

[fooj]

9. Nothing to see here...move along!

:banghead:

[Beausoir]

6. Throwing a belated bone to the fundie whackjobs. n/t

[ET Awful]

7. Really? Isn't that a direct violation of Constitutional law?

"no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Hmmmmm . . . .

[enough]

16. Yep.

This is another outragous Bush moment that will be treated as Business-as-Usual.

[tridim]

17. I'm sure Miers will investigate that after she's confirmed

It's pathetic that we even have to discuss this. She's an unqualified religious nutball that should probably teach Sunday school to fundie kids, not become a SC judge.

[Occulus]

18. Article VI, Clause III

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

[progressivebydesign]

22. I think that Clause may become my signature here at DU. thanks n/t

[maxrandb]

36. Alberto Gonzalez

will just say the little old clause in the Constitution is "just quaint"...like the Geneva Conventions.

Get onboard everyone! It's the "New 'Murika". The old one is D.E.A Dead!

[northzax]

24. no, it may be a violation of the spirit, but not the letter

this clause specifically means that there cannot be a regulation or a requirement someone must pass a religious test, but it doesn't mean that a President can't consider someone's religion in appointments. Think about it, we send Catholics to be the ambassador to the Vatican, Jews to Israel, Muslims to Saudi Arabia. It's not a written rule, but to say that someone's religion isn't a consideration there would be fallacious. When's the last time we sent a Protestant to be the ambassador to Ireland?

on edit:: BUT, this puts religion and values on the table for the senate. If this is, in fact, a reason she was picked (and if the President says so, you can sell it) then it is now fair game to ask her how her religious beliefs affect her interpretation of the Constitution and established case law.

[AllegroRondo]

43. First question at her confirmation should be

"When a case comes before the court that forces you to decide between your religious beliefs and the Law of the United States, which one will take precedence?"

[northzax]

46. since religion is on the table now, questions two and three:

2: do you believe that the authority of the goverment comes from the people or from God?

3: you have stated that you will interpret the Constitution in light of the orginal intent of the founders. Given that neither the words stare decisis nor the concept appears in the Constitution, will you recognize the concept of stare decisis in any cases, as an Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court? How do you reconcile your statement of using the original intent of the Constitution with this more modern concept?

by the way, the latter can be interpreted as a comment on Roe, but it could easily be a comment on Brown v. Board of Education, or any other 'settled case law' Without stare decisis everything is up for review. The entire current power of the Supreme Court was established in Marbury v. Madison, a case of legislating from the Bench if I've ever seen one.

[onenote]

54. I like question 3

But if she answers question 2 "from the people" then what have we gained?

But question 3 -- that's a good one.

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[northzax]

55. nothing much, except a slap at James Dobson

and that's always fun.

[AllegroRondo]

60. "Which has more influence on how you will decide a case

the Bible, or the Constitution?"

[onenote]

64. again, why throw her softballs

She's not an idiot. She answer " the constitution". So the question is whether asking her will weaken her nomination. On the one hand, it keeps the fundie nutjobs outraged, but on the other hand it gives other folks cover to say that she won't let her religious beliefs dictate her decisions.

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[onenote]

52. and if she answers "the Law of the United States", then what?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

87. Stand up and scream "Liar!"

Then sit down and clip your nails like her confirmation is no longer of interest. Spell "liar" with the nail clippings.

[Midlodemocrat]

38. That was my first thought as well upon reading this.

[Nothing Without Hope]

50. The unconstitutionality of this needs to be PUSHED and PUBLICIZED!!!

This is extremely important and our representatives and the media need to be reminded!!! The Bushies haven't killed quite all of the Consitution YET.

[0rganism]

63. Not really, since it's not an official qualification

There were many people who were qualified. Bush gets to pick whomever he wants to nominate. If he had his own religious criteria in making the nomination, that's a problem for the electorate to resolve.

[ET Awful]

65. If he would not nominate someone who was not a Christian, that becomes

a de facto religious test that must be passed prior to holding office.

If he would nominate no one but a Christian, he has set a religious test on that office, and thus created a violation of the Constitution.

Whether that test is set forth by statute or not is irrelevant, as by his own admission, the test was implemented before the nomination was made.

[0rganism]

70. I don't see your inverse case mentioned anywhere in the article

"If he would nominate no one but a Christian, he has set a religious test on that office"

Nope, assumes facts not in evidence. Article says he had a range of candidates up for consideration, selected Miers, and was using her religion as a means of getting support from Dobson et al. It would require some account of unconforming candidates being explicitly eliminated on this basis to make the case.

To be fair, the article I read is a Nedra Pickler, so we can be pretty sure that anything of the sort would be either omitted entirely or esconced in a mire of obfuscating detail.

[ET Awful]

72. By stating that she was the best person he could have picked

and following that up later with the fact that her religion was a factor in his decision, he is basically admitting that such a test was required.

[0rganism]

78. Given a slate of qualified candidates, he selected "the best"

Saying her religion was a factor is far different from saying a specific religious orientation was a requirement. I'm sure there was more than one fundy wackjob on his short list; it could hardly be his sole criteria.

On the other hand, if there IS a case to be made, it looks from the article as if Sen. Leahy will come prepared to make it.

[nickgutierrez]

10. Do you have a more specific link?

The one you gave just goes to the ABC News homepage, and I can't see the article you're referring to listed there.

EDIT - never mind. It's the loud "Breaking" thing at the top of the page. :crazy:

Here's the article itself, by the way: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1206462

[Rose Siding]

14. AP has text now- Here's a link

Bush: Miers' Religion Cited in Court Nod

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Wednesday that Harriet Miers' religious beliefs figured into her nomination to the Supreme Court as a top-ranking Democrat warned against any "wink and a nod" campaign for confirmation.

"People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers," Bush told reporters at the White House. "Part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion."

Bush, speaking at the conclusion of an Oval Office meeting with visiting Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski, said that his advisers were reaching out to conservatives who oppose her nomination "just to explain the facts." He spoke on a day in which conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on Family, said he had discussed the nominee's religious views with presidential aide Karl Rove.

Yahoo

[icymist]

31. Wait a minute..... something deeper here:

said that his advisers were reaching out to conservatives who oppose her nomination "just to explain the facts." He spoke on a day in which conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on Family, said he had discussed the nominee's religious views with presidential aide Karl Rove.

Is * trying to explain that what Rove told Dobson about Meirs is what everybody already knew?! This is what Dobson says is "what I probably shouldn't know" (about Meirs)? Okay. What are they (not very well) hidding?

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. No litmus test, huh?

Laughable corner they've painted themselves into. They carp about no litmus test for years, then when they pick an unqualified crony, the only way to sell her to the fundies is by insisting that the litmus test came back positive.

Jackasses.

[AllegroRondo]

45. Heres the Litmus Test

[tenshi816]

57. I continue to be astonished that religion is brought up at all,

and that it's the most important quality some people want in a Supreme Court Justice. No experience on the bench? Who cares as long as you believe in the Rapture! Whoopee!!!

Jeebus help us all. America is racing to the 1600s.

[54anickel]

13. Poor idiot - entirely lost without Rove. Seems Bush believes his

entire base is made up of Fundies. Rove would make sure he was inclusive of the old Conservative Republicans.

Shrub's altered reality universe is Fundie-based only. We have been getting more frequent glimpses of the REAL Shrub now that KKKarl is a bit pre-occupied.

[Connie_Corleone]

15. No way Rove would've let the chimp say that in public.

Just more proof that Bush is distancing himself from Rove.

[progressivebydesign]

20. I have visions of Rove and Cheney sitting somewhere...

and they are laughing their asses off at Bush being himself for the world to see. Someone was promoting the idea that Rove and Cheney have sided up together, and Bush and Card on the other side. Perhaps Rove and Cheney told Bush, finally, that HE could run things on his own (just for spite), and are getting a laugh at watching Bush implode. Rove's kidney stones showed just how badly things went without him regarding the Katrina disaster.

[catmandu57]

40. Snarlin dick maybe

but I think they're all pretty much preoccupied right now trying to save their own necks or make exit plans. The chimp* is left to sink or swim on it's own right now, rover may be sympathetic, but I think he's looking at the punishment for treason, and not liking what he's reading, very soon kidney stones may be the least of his problems.

[shockingelk]

19. Sounds like a religious test to me

no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

[Wordie]

21. There's a headline at ABCnews, but no article that I can find.

And google hasn't picked it up yet either. Could you please post some more info regarding this? Thanks.

[Connie_Corleone]

23. Look at post #14 nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. ABC spinning for the White House?

Their main page says:

How Important is Miers' Religion?

President Bush says Harriet Miers' religion is part of understanding who she is, but the White House denies her faith played a role in picking her for the court.

Yet the AP story that links to (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1206493) has no mention of a denial by 'the White House'. So does the West Wing spin get straight into the introductory sentence without even giving us a chance to put it in context?

[deadparrot]

26. Bush: Miers' Religion Cited in Court Nod

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Wednesday that Harriet Miers' religious beliefs figured into her nomination to the Supreme Court as a top-ranking Democrat warned against any "wink and a nod" campaign for confirmation.

"People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers," Bush told reporters at the White House. "They want to know Harriet Miers' background. They want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinions. And part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion."

Bush, speaking at the conclusion of an Oval Office meeting with visiting Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski, said that his advisers were reaching out to conservatives who oppose her nomination "just to explain the facts." He spoke on a day in which conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on Family, said he had discussed the nominee's religious views with presidential aide Karl Rove.

Not even a congressional recess nor Bush's preoccupation with hurricane recovery and affairs of state shrouded the continuing controversy surrounding his selection of Miers to replace the retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Debate about Miers' credentials was prominent on the Sunday television talk shows and has continued to occupy considerable attention on the Internet.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/miers

[Zenlitened]

27. Disgusting.

People in the grip of a god-fetish shouldn't be running the country.

[ClintonTyree]

28. Well my god, yes........

if we can't trust the future of our country's court system for the next three decades or so to the theo-fascists, who CAN we entrust it to? :eyes: I don't like this shit, I don't like it one fucking bit! :mad: Her main qualification for the Supreme Court is her belief in ancient myths. Makes perfect sense to me. NOT!

[VegasWolf]

29. Yes, let's infect the SC with people that worry about the wrath of sky

people.

:crazy:

[Beetwasher]

30. In Direct Violation of the Constitution

Article VI, Clause III
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

[Jokerman]

32. Kicked and Recommended!

I'm not surprised by this but I am surprised he admits it publicly.

[chelsea0011]

33. A Jew, a Muslim, and a Christian applied for a job..............

and we know who will only get a job. This story is an outrage to anything legal and decent. The very idea that Christians and Christians only will get consideration on the court should send shivers down everyone's back. This administration is going down, hopefully fast.

[ikojo]

34. I didn't think he had a litmus test

Something to make you go hmmmmm....


:sarcasm:

[anotherdrew]

59. do you think he has any idea what litmus means? he is very _base_ tho

The literal meaning comes from chemistry. Litmus is a water-soluble dye extracted from certain lichens and absorbed on to filter paper. The resulting piece of paper becomes a pH indicator (one of the oldest), used to test materials for acidity. Blue litmus paper turns red under acidic conditions and red litmus paper turns blue under basic conditions, the colour change occurring over the pH range 4.5-8.3 (at 25°C). The active ingredient of Litmus is called Erythrolitmin.

[DemReadingDU]

35. Miers is a trojan horse

I think she is ultra-conservative, that's why Bush picked her

[clichemoth]

37. No, he picked her because she has evidence of Bushcrime.

...that can't be touched if she's on the Court.

Of course she's an ultra-conservative fundie nut, Bush would NEVER allow anything less on the hand-stacked Court. The other fundie nuts know she's not a stealth liberal, they just want to see one of their longtime favorites like, say, a Priscilla Owen, in that slot rather than a political crony who isn't an established name in their circles.

Miers won't get confirmed. Not a chance. But Owen or whoever else the second choice is will be confirmed once the nuclear option is in play.

[onenote]

41. not sure I follow this

If she "had evidence" of criminal activity, how would putting her on the SCOTUS prevent her from being called as a witness or otherwise required to give testimony? It would create pressure for her to recuse herself from involvement in any case relating to the particular criminal activity, but I don't see how that is supposed to benefit chimpy.

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[MADem]

44. Anything shady, she played a role in, as his personal lawyer nt

[ticapnews]

58. She knows where the bodies are buried....

He puts her on the Court to guarantee that she never talks, and she can cover his a$$ if any cases involving the Bush Crime Family ever come before the SCOTUS.

If the Skull and Bones accepted women, she'd be the first one admitted...

[onenote]

62. do you really think she'd turn on chimpy if she wasn't on the court?

Doubt it. She's a true believer and will stand by him whether she's on the court or cleaning out the dog's kennel for him.

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[ticapnews]

91. Why take a chance?

Plus, she'd be in the perfect position to cover everyone down the road, if needed.

[Wordie]

39. Is this what the RW means by "strict construction"??? LOL

It's VERY amusing that Bush and the far right wing make all the noise about "strict construction" of the Constitution...

...but then he violates the Constitution in an attempt to achieve it! LOL

[Blasphemer]

47. This nomination shouldn't make it out of committee

Trojan Horse or not, it would be completely absurd to allow this woman to even get to confirmation hearings. Religious fanatics can't choose SC justices - end of story.

[Spider Jerusalem]

48. Article VI, US Constitution:

...no religious test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

If this is a reason for appoining Miers to the Supreme Court, then the nomination deserves no consideration. It deserves no consideration anyway, since she's eminently unqualified and was nominated because of sycophancy, but this bloody tears it.

[progressoid]

49. I can only think of one thing to add:

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[fshrink]

51. Waiting to see an atheist up there.

That would be a reliable proof of the separation.

[Anywho6]

53. This one is worth a filibuster if not shutting down the government

Just way out there maybe, but I have been thinking a lot about ways to bring some of this madness to a halt. Maybe shutting down Congress is an option (I know Democrats threatened to do so over the "nuclear option"). Something needs to be done and fast. I'm beginning the think that waiting until the 2006 elections with a small possibility of taking back the House is going to be too little too late as this administration systematically continues to destroy this country and the Constitution. Ever since this "moran" was elected, I've heard people saying, "Oh, it can't get any worse" and it does. I have also heard people speaking about how we, as Democrats, Libertarians, Progressives, etc need to do this in a "peaceful" manner and I'm beginning to think that's a crock of shit, too. This is an all out assault on the nation and we need to do everything we can to stop it. And I'm not ruling out "violent means" as an option. And I'll scream if I read one post saying, "Oh, we shouldn't stoop to violence or to their level." Bullshit. That's exactly what these fascists are expecting from people in opposition--very little true resistance, no leadership, hand wringing and a bunch of meaningless rhetoric.

End of Rant.

[antonialee839]

56. Which is absolutely the wrong reason Idiot Boy.

[onenote]

61. chimpy's actual statement is a bit more ambiguous than the abcnews story

suggests:

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Why do people in this White House feel it's necessary to tell your supporters that Harriet Miers attends a very conservative Christian church? Is that your strategy to repair the divide that has developed among conservatives over her nominee?

PRESIDENT BUSH: People ask me why I picked Harriet Miers. They want to know Harriet Miers' background; they want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinions. And part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion. Part of it has to do with the fact that she was a pioneer woman and a trailblazer in the law in Texas. I remind people that Harriet Miers is one of the -- has been rated consistently one of the top 50 women lawyers in the United States. She's eminently qualified for the job. And she has got a judicial philosophy that I appreciate; otherwise I wouldn't have named her to the bench, which is -- or nominated her to the bench -- which is that she will not legislate from the bench, but strictly interpret the Constitution.

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[daleo]

73. Wow, in the top 50 (supposedly) women lawyers

Shouldn't a Supreme Court judge be ranked higher than that, though? I mean, it's pretty good, but SCOTUS should be the legal all-star team.

[cassiepriam]

66. I guess it is official, we are a theocracy. nt

[ramapo]

67. This is a surprise???

The only surprise hear is that Bush Boy was stupid enough to admit it....well ok, it's not that much of a surprise.

[npincus]

68. not according to Scotty at today's WH press briefing

[CoffeeCat]

69. Get out the Miracle Grow--this story is a White House plant!

Oh geez!

I guess it's probably obvious to everyone by now...

Bush is in deep shineola with his "base". They're angry about this nomination, so Junior has to let them know that Ms. Meirs is now, "Halo Harriet".

Junior said this in such a way that would spark the MSM's coverage of his remarks. He's communicating to his conservative base, which is enraged at this nomination.

What a pickle Junior is in! He can't come right out and say, "I picked her because she's a fundie wacknut just like all of you!"

He is forced to dance around the religion issue, while convincing his "base" that she's religious.

[lies and propaganda]

71. gotta make that base believe he gives a shit about them

Abortion isnt going anywhere, they never had any real plans that it would. but saying it for the first couple a years really sealed teh deal for him, too bad the base is starting to see right through him.

[Khaotic]

74. Miers (w/Bush) Honored at Liberal ADL Luncheon

It's old headlines like, "Miers (w/Bush) Honored at Liberal ADL Luncheon," that are really messing up the Conservatives.

See: http://www.libertythink.com/2005/10/harriet-miers-pic-that-speaks-thousand.html

What they DON'T understand is that Miers could have an entire life of liberal views, orgy sex, drug use, speaking in tongues, Satan worship, and on, and on, but it doesn't matter.

She is now dedicated to being a neocon puppet, taken from the same cookie cutter that made Bush.

She will not sway.

Her personal views maybe to worship Satan and spend hours and hours pleasing herself with an electronic friend each night, but it doesn't matter.

She may very well get wet every time she sees a picture of George Clooney and maybe she secretly wishes she was Monica Lewinsky, but it doesn't matter.

She is dedicated, heart and SOUL, to the neocons.

This is her religion now:


The Christian Reich

It's laughable to see the neocons and repugs double guessing Bush. To see them stumbling and fumbling.

They don't realize that for the neocon agenda Miers is the perfect candidate ... you couldn't get more perfect if you put Anne Coulter up there.

Miers isn't looking for fame, she's looking to read the neocon teleprompter 24/7, 365.

This is why Dobson and many of the sheeple in the Christian Reich will be getting in line to kiss her hand quicker than Shrub kissed the Saudis.

They'll soon be holding her hand as Shrub did Price Abu ... whatever.

This is bought and paid for; signed sealed and being delivered.

Shrub is just playing the part of the FedEx delivery boy ... Corporate America is the $$$ and muscle behind the package.

Religion my ass ... these people have NO religion. It's a tool to meet a political end for them.

Any other realization is hogwash.

[BootinUp]

75. I read this in another article. Isn't that enough to REJECT her?

I mean that is the wrong fuckin reason to nominate her. I guess the question is: Is the devil you know better than the one you don't know?

[Inland]

76. Yes. Bush made her religion an issue, and I don't like her religion.

I mean, if Bush is able to reject jews and catholics and atheists and mainline protestants to pick her, why couldn't I say that I don't care for her religion at all?

Or is Bush the only one allowed to use religious tests? Did fundamentalist evangelical protestantism win the last election?

[Daftly]

84. Perhaps he thinks she looks good in a bikini.

The reason * picked her is irrelevant. He could have chosen her simply because he thought she would look good in a bikini? (yes, that is a very disturbing mental image)

The president can choose whomever he likes with any or no logic to back him up. It falls in the lap of the senate to provide the advice and consent by either allowing her to be seated or to reject her. They are the ones required not to hold any religious standard in deciding whether she should be seated or not.

Religion is no reason to reject her. However, because of her utter lack of qualifications, the senate should never consent to her becoming a member of the SCOTUS. Unfortunately, I can just hear those buffoons doing the comic rendition of "der whatever you say George."

[Inland]

85. In the same way, if religion is the only qualification, it's no

qualification at all. Unless every churchgoer of George's type deserves a nomination.

But if George really thinks that her religion is a plus, then I'm entitled to think it a minus. B: "She believes in the Bible" I: "Yeah, that's pretty lame IMO." Fair is fair.

[Daftly]

86. Exactly, but not really

The president can nominate an individual for any/no reason, with any/no qualifications. Truly, he is limited in no way by any stipulation within the constitution.

Likewise, the public can and will support/reject the nominee for any reason. If we feel the president makes poor choices, we need to elect someone else into office. That is our only recourse.

However, the senate's roll is completely different. They need to look at a nominee based on their merits, even (especially) if the president did not do so when he chose the nominee. The decision by the senate to confirm or reject a nominee may never be based on their religious persuasion. That decision should only be based on the individual's merits and qualifications.

This candidate has no merit and should be summarily rejected.

Despite the fact that * made his choice at least in part due to her religion, her religion is not something the senate can take into consideration when making their decision. *'s reason for choosing her is not even a factor that can be used to reject her.

[publius_jr]

77. Titlting & shun upon by the leftward Light of God.

--caption contest (winner to be announced @ 3 am eastern): I wore all my best metal to this conference. (Plus, I may need it for the coming Greater Depression.)

[LatinoSocialist]

79. how intelligently conceived could Miers "religious" views be?

If she publicly has called the President a brilliant man? I mean, that alone should discredit her point of view on ANYTHING.

I can say I like burning stray cats alive as part of my worship of the dark God, Cat-Sum, or something like that. you could say that is my "religious" view. Would that make my views legitimate, or would it just make me YET another loony whose views should be ignored/discredited.

Miers is a kiss-ass, and she's probably being GIVING him ass as well. Miers isn't anything special and she shouldn't be on the court.

[truthpusher]

80. Bush defends Miers nomination, noting her religion

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2005-10-12T235219Z_01_SCH258336_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-COURT-BUSH.xml

Bush defends Miers nomination, noting her religion
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:52 PM ET
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By Thomas Ferraro
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Wednesday that religion is part of Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers' life as he tried to counter complaints that she may not be conservative enough and the White House acknowledged two other potential candidates had withdrawn.

(snip)

"People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers," Bush said. "They want to know Harriet Miers' background, they want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinions. And part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion."

The White House is scrambling to bolster support for Miers amid calls from some conservatives that he withdraw her nomination. Officials have noted that Miers is a conservative Christian whose church opposes abortion to try and quiet her critics.

But Democrats have said religion should not be a factor when the Senate decides whether to confirm her and an advocacy group blasted Bush for mentioning her religion.

"We're picking a Supreme Court justice here, not a Sunday school teacher," said Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. "President Bush and his allies should be talking about Miers' knowledge of the Constitution, not the Bible."

(snip)

complete story: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2005-10-12T235219Z_01_SCH258336_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-COURT-BUSH.xml

[Bzzzz]

81. Yet when questioning...

Robert's religious beliefs they are now shall we say 'using the old double standard'???

[VegasWolf]

82. They are both Pro-Scatology, The 1st Curch of the After End. nt

[fshrink]

88. Let's clarify:

Eschatology: what you say or any elucubration about the ultimate end, whatever that is.
Scatology: preoccupation with the excrements, as in obsession or medical interest.
On second thought, I'm not sure whether it's the one or the other!

[VegasWolf]

90. Considering that this Bush, I am certain that it is the latter! nt

[Shine]

83. This is disturbing on so many levels. n/t.

[cal04]

89. "The hypocrisy is staggering." Rev. Barry Lynn

The Rev. Barry Lynn, director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, said anyone who tried to bring up the topic of religion during the Roberts confirmation was labeled a bigot. "Now Bush and Rove are touting where Miers goes to church and using that as a selling point," Lynn said. "The hypocrisy is staggering."


http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/sns-ap-miers,0,6239000.story

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92. She Has No Religion ...

... other than the 1st Church of the Neocon Christian Reich.



That's the religion that Bush wants on the high court.

You can bet that he got it in Judge Roberts.

The neocons are soooo cocky now that their putting forth Bush's person lawyer, whom they know is a church going member of the Christian Reich.

Does no one else see this?

They don't believe in God. They don't believe in Jesus Christ. They don't believe in Hindu or Jewish or Islam religion.

They have NO religion.

It's a con. They believe in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

Wake up!

Wake the hell up!

Why play into their manipulation and their news speak.

They only REAL reason the neocons want to legislate religion is because it's a TOOL of manipulation. Always has been.

Take the freakin' red pill and wake up sheeple.

I guess the only thing positive I can take from the conservatives barking about this bitch is that they must actually believe in their cause and God. If they didn't then they would be cuddling up to her like the likes of Dobson and the rest of the Christian Reich.

Unless she's nothing, but a ploy to take the heat and the fall. A patsy of sorts.

This is long ball folks. The neocons know the stakes. There's a real possibility that she nothing, but a fall guy meant to absorb all the cannon fodder from both sides. A candidate that's sooooo bad that someone the likes of Judge Janice Rogers Brown would be accepted with open arms.

We know that the neocons will NOT put anyone forward that isn't a loyal member of the Christian Reich. That's just a fact because using religion as a tool to meet a political end has been so successful for these fucking bastards.