CNN/HLN/Reuters: Iraq's al Qaeda denounces Zawahri letter as fake-Web

[Up2Late]

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Iraq's al Qaeda denounces Zawahri letter as fake-Web

Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:29 AM ET9

DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda's wing in Iraq on Thursday rejected as a fake a letter by top group leader Ayman al-Zawahri which was issued by U.S. officials this week, according to an Internet posting.

"We in Al Qaeda Organization announce that there is no truth to these claims, which are only based on the imagination of the politicians of the Black (White) House and their slaves," the group said in a statement posted on an Islamist Web site about the letter.

According to the letter released this week by U.S. intelligence officials, al Qaeda's second in command Zawahri urged the group's leader in Iraq to prepare for an Islamic government to take over the country when U.S. forces leave. He also said brutal tactics risked alienating Muslims.


© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.



Here's the link!


<http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-13T152943Z_01_WRI354641_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-QAEDA-LETTER.xml&archived=False>


Al Zircouwi is supposedly the Al Quida in Iraq Leader.

Still looking for link. Reported to CNN by Reuters

Reuters reporting that an arab news service says that the letter is the product of the White House Imagination.

White House Spokesman denying this.

Link Help welcome!

Still looking but here are some links to start looking:

<http://today.reuters.com/news/default.aspx?refresh=true>

<http://edition.cnn.com/>

[henslee]

1. so did the letter go something like "Guy's you're doing a great job

really, now if we can just ease up on the beheadings, but come up with a few more roadside bombings and mortars into the green zone.

[bee]

7. heres the link to the original letter story on cnn

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/11/alqaeda.letter/index.html

[Singular73]

2. I need a link once you find it

I've been arguing about this with someone. I told them I thought it was fake.

[Benhurst]

6. Click on the headline of the original post.

:hi:

[Marie26]

8. Here you go

Here's the link to the letters on the DNI website. http://www.dni.gov/release_letter_101105.html

I think it's fake too - for no good reason. Just - when have we ever heard of Al-Queda letters before? Why is this one so important it's virtually the only thing posted on the DNI news page? It's interesting that this letter stating that Al-Queda will take over Iraq is released at the same time as Bush's speech linking Iraq & Al-Queda, and the subway terrorist threat. All together promote the belief that we must not withdraw troops from Iraq.

[yowzayowzayowza]

20. Methinkz...

* thought indictments were due this week and broke out the propaganda.

[Brundle_Fly]

3. Anyone who didn't know this was a fake

is living in a Faux reality.

It went something like this....

We are so troubled the pakistani army is so organized and scary, we are under such incredible pressure from them it is very scary, we can't function properly.
Hey, think you can cool it killing civilians, its really bad for our brand image, fyi we are broke, can you spot us some cash, otherwise we get caught, the impressive american intel is getting us down.

bushit.

[serryjw]

32. Our Banana Republic

Do 3rd world countries have as much propaganda as the US? B/T this and the 'staged' Iraq conversation with our troops what else are they going to do? Aren't we due for a FAKE TURKEY trip to Iraq for Thansgiving soon?

[Miss Chybil]

34. It's soooo embarrassing. nt

[bee]

4. of course. I wonder if theyre talking about the letter that said

something like..."we cant wait for the US to pull out like they did in Vietnam so we can swoop in and take over and make it an Islamic Nation. lets start planning for it now".

That letter had bullshit written all over it.

[mirandapriestly]

16. Hilarious !, how dumb do they think we are? nt

[Up2Late]

5. Links and Story now edited to include Report

:kick:

I like the Black house reference.

"..."We in Al Qaeda Organization announce that there is no truth to these claims, which are only based on the imagination of the politicians of the Black (White) House and their slaves," the group said in a statement posted on an Islamist Web site about the letter...."

[Wilms]

9. Er...Nominated! n/t

[Historic NY]

10. I seriously think the W.H. cranks these out on a regular basis..........

none of them have ever been proved to have originated from Al Qaeda. Just another part of the smoke & mirrors to deceive the public. Add these to the phoney terror alert/warnings, its all part of a concerted effort to promote * as the leader in the war on terror.

[LynnTheDem]

11. Huh...gee, that would be the SECOND fake letter touted by bush.

Shocking. Just shocking, I tell ya. Someone must be trying to make bush look stupid

[0007]

12. Next week will bring the big championship wrestling match.

Mayor Bloomberg v. Mayor Nagin


Hulk Hogan sez both men are full of shit!

[Up2Late]

21. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! Too funny!

:evilgrin: :rofl: :yourock:

[Career Prole]

13. Explains that clumsy Vietnam parallel, doesn't it?

We are truly being governed by madmen.

[karynnj]

17. Especially because the MSNBC " expert"

explained they were talking about that Vietnam fell after we left "abruptly". Which we didn't, unless at least 4 years of Vietnamization is abrupt.

What's scary is it does map out what they will do when people demand they leave.

[ClayZ]

14. Their Propaganda Generator is running out of gas! n/t

:freak:

[Megahurtz]

15. ANY Terra Scare will do

to protect those precious $$$$$OIL$$$$$ fields!:evilgrin:

[K-W]

18. Being a progressive is alot like being a psychic.

Because you see the bullshit before everyone else.

As likely as it was that an Al-Queda leader would release a letter echoing major talking points from the Presidents latest propaganda... I kinda saw this coming.

[krepitch]

19. Numbers?

I am curious why the numbers in the Arabic letter are 1, 2, 3, etc. and not the Arabic versions.

[Up2Late]

31. Auh.......Those are Arabic Numbers

Look at the bottom of the linked page
<http://www.arabic2000.com/arabic/alphabet.html>

[darkism]

22. U.S. Accused of Making Up al-Qaida Letter (AP)

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- A posting on an Islamic Web site Thursday accused the United States of fabricating a letter in which al-Qaida's No. 2 leader asked for money and laid out the terrorist group's plans for expanding the insurgency in the Middle East.

"We in al-Qaida declare that there is no truth to these claims, and they are baseless, except in the imagination of the politicians of the Black (White) House," according to the statement on a Web site known as a clearing house for al-Qaida material.

--cut-->

U.S. officials said the letter dated July 9 to al-Qaida-linked Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, first disclosed by the Pentagon on Friday and released in full on Tuesday, was acquired during American operations in Iraq.

--cut-->

The letter, translated by the U.S. government, also asked al-Zarqawi to provide financial support and urged him to avoid bombings mosques, slaughtering hostages to avoid alienating the masses.

more... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AL_QAIDA?SITE=SCFLO&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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Interesting stuff from AP today. This makes a nice companion to the story detailing how the videoconference was staged.

Oh, this is my first LBN post too. I'm pretty sure I followed proper protocol; lemme know if anything needs fixing. :p

EDIT to change cuts and add emphasis.

[MsConduct]

23. Yeah, like that would be a stretch. We should never

'misunderestimate' how low this administration would go to promote their agenda.

[Pirate Smile]

24. Here was an earlier thread on this issue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5050453

[Just Me]

25. What sucks is,...this administration has engaged in so much deception,...

,...that "forgery" of documents by the likes of the BushCO neoconsters seems easily possible. I mean, hell, they've lied about EVERYTHING, both domestic and foreign, they intend to do,...EVERYTHING!!!

[VegasWolf]

26. Exactly, who would believe ANYTHING the US claims anymore. nt

[Enraged_Ape]

27. The stupid thing was obviously a fake

It had every single Bush administration talking point in it, and like ALL al-Qaeda communiques it happened to come out at the most politically expedient time for the Monkey King.

The real question is, why isn't the "mainstream media" asking the obvious probing questions about it? (And that's a rhetorical question, by the way.)

[savemefromdumbya]

28. like the fake Osama videos nt

nt

[sniffa]

29. TREASON! TREASON!

[AintIgreat]

30. Bush is doing everything possible to save his ass

That reptilians days are numbered

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. The BBC is on it: "Al-Qaeda disowns 'fake letter'"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4339912.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 13 October 2005, 17:31 GMT 18:31 UK

Al-Qaeda disowns 'fake letter'

A statement claiming to be by al-Qaeda in Iraq has rejected as a fake a letter allegedly written by Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command.

(snip)

After leaking a short extract, the new director of US intelligence has now published it in full on his website in English and Arabic.

The Americans will not say exactly when or how they intercepted it, except that it was during operations in Iraq.

The letter is not directly addressed to Zarqawi - although there is a cryptic reference to him.

But US officials say it is clear he is the intended recipient. It certainly heaps praise on whoever it was meant for.

(snip)

[HuffleClaw]

35. hahahahaha

these stunts are being exposed pretty fast. whats next? spongebob seen with bin laden at burger king ? hey, a bin laden VIDEO would be a good one.