CIA Manager to Head Clandestine Service

[Rose Siding]

WASHINGTON -- A top CIA manager who remains undercover will soon oversee the traditional human spying activities for the entire intelligence community, a new position created in the post-Sept. 11 intelligence reforms.

Publicly, he is referred to simply as "Jose," said U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan's full details had yet to be released.

Jose's posting as head of the new National Clandestine Service ends weeks of debate over whether the CIA would retain its role as the primary agency responsible for traditional human spywork, as an increasing number of U.S. national security agencies take on this type of work.

He'll now broadly coordinate operations for the FBI, Defense Department and other agencies involved in human intelligence, or the information gathered by people, rather than by technical means.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101300919.html

[bemildred]

1. They sure love all that pseudo-military jargon, don't they?

"Clandestine Service"

[UpInArms]

2. related: CIA gets big Big Brother

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1816680,00.html

Washington - President George W Bush has approved the creation of a national clandestine service within the Central Intelligence Agency to oversee all US espionage operations, the government said on Thursday.

The action was the latest in efforts to overhaul US intelligence following its failures on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and the 9/11 attacks on the United States.

The creation of the national clandestine service was announced jointly by the CIA and the director of national intelligence, John Negroponte, the new overseer of the US intelligence community under the reforms.

CIA director Porter Goss, who lost the intelligence oversight role in the shuffle, was designated the manager of national human intelligence.

Human intelligence is bureaucratic jargon for espionage and covert operations.

...more...



Goss appears second on the left. He is seated between notorious CIA pilot and drug smuggler Barry Seal (third left) and the equally-notorious CIA assassin Felix Rodriguez (front left), a Cuban vice cop under the corrupt Mob-run Batista regime who later became an Iran Contra operative and a confidant of the first George Bush.

The only one of the spook celebrants displaying any hint of tradecraft (seated on the other side of the table covering his face with his sport coat) is Frank Sturgis, most famous as one of the Watergate burglars.

Beside him sits (front right) William Seymour, New Orleans representative of the Double-Chek Corporation, a CIA front used to recruit pilots (like Seal), and a man who many Kennedy assassination researchers believe impersonated Lee Harvey Oswald on several occasions when the lone nut gunman was out of the country and so unable to impersonate himself.

...more at http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6512004.html ...

[sofa king]

3. Jose Padilla?

[katty]

4. Jose? how 'bout Juan Valdez...Nat'l "Clandestine" Service-pleeeezzzz

[Roland99]

5. US setting up new spying agency

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4340318.stm

The US has announced the creation of a new intelligence agency led by the CIA to co-ordinate all American overseas spying activities.

The National Clandestine Service (NCS) will oversee all human espionage operations - meaning spying by people rather than by technical means.

<...>

The chief of the new service will supervise the CIA's espionage operations and co-ordinate all overseas spying, including those of the FBI and the Pentagon.

The director of the new agency, whose identity will remain secret and is simply known as "Jose", will report directly to the head of the CIA, Porter Goss.

[Jara sang]

6. Great that's all we need is one more of those.

What does that make 15 now?

[atommom]

7. Yes, that should certainly help with oversight, and with the bureaucracy.

:sarcasm:

[shance]

8. Wow. More corruption and crime in the name of "Intelligence"

The Neo-cons sure do like military and intelligence welfare programs.

[longship]

9. Bigger Government!! Bigger Government!!

nt

[MichiganVote]

10. Why not just call it the KGB and be done with it

[Silverhair]

11. Sorry, don't believe it. NT

[Silverhair]

13. I withdraw that. Sorry is now in WP. NT

[peacetalksforall]

12. So the CIA is out? We now have a NCS doing the work of the CIA?

Jose Clandestine?

JC?

So, are they shutting the CIA down?

It sounds like JC reports to Negroponte, but I bet he really reports to Rumsfeld.

We're headed for a military takeover of the U.S. with guns - guns in the hands of our young boys and girls who are going to point it at us. Or are they going to hire Africans as Bush mentioned in a 'talk'.
Or are the soldiers going to be the Blackwater boys.

Their regime is in trouble, but they plow ahead with their original plans.

[bbgrunt]

14. all we need now is to repeal posse comitatas--and the

secret police will have the military do their bidding

[bbgrunt]

15. kick and nominated. this is too important to sink

[Say_What]

24. Nominated and kick

:kick:

[Judi Lynn]

16. CIA director to manage all human spying

CIA director to manage all human spying

Thursday, October 13, 2005; Posted: 2:41 p.m. EDT (18:41 GMT)


CIA Director Porter Goss will coordinate spying efforts across 15 agencies.WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has approved a plan to name CIA Director Porter Goss as the manager of all U.S. human intelligence-gathering, John D. Negroponte, director of national intelligence, announced Thursday.

Negroponte also announced the formation of a new National Clandestine Services group within the CIA to coordinate and evaluate intelligence. The move came in response to recommendations made in March by President Bush's Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction.

"I am confident that with the creation of the NCS, the U.S. government will have a more cohesive and truly national human intelligence capability," Negroponte said.
(snip)

Under the plan, sources told CNN, Goss will set the common standards for spying operations, whether they are conducted by the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency or one of the 13 additional intelligence agencies in the federal government.
(snip/...)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/13/goss.spies/

[VegasWolf]

17. Yes, but who is in charge of the dolphin and chimpanzee spying?

:sarcasm:

[politicaholic]

18. He was promoted from the DIA (Doggie Intelligence Agency).

13 Intelligence agencies huh? Which one is designated to monitor DU I wonder?

[longship]

19. And Bush put in charge of all gerbil spying.

nt

[ToolTex]

20. CIA has been eviscerated. I should say FEMAed.

George Tenant was bought off with the Freedom Medal and replaced. CIA was moved under Negraponti's umbrella; Porter Goss and his incompetent congressional staff were put in to reorganize, and similar to FEMA, most of the experienced people were ridden out the door. All of our human assets, expert and well placed in midEast intel channels, had already been eliminated by the Plame affair.

So we now have a wrecked CIA, like so many other solutions by the necrocons. Functional foreign intel now comes in through DI or Cheney's Shadow National Security Agency. And now, of course, since we have this new concept of Arrest Before The Crime Thought Police brought to us through the Patriot Act, for functional domestic intel we have the New FBI and Total Info Awareness.

Now they want us to pre-register for background checks to be preferred fliers. How convenient, "Line up Sheepies." Maybe I'll drive, thinks anyway. Oh isn't that a cute little RFID on the new automobile inspection stickers. Maybe I'll borrow my neighbors car. Gov Thompson is suggesting we get an RFID chip implanted like he did. So convenient, but I think I prefer to make a fashion statement with the big black and yellow cattle ear tag, 'specially since Carlysle owns all the RFID patents and income.

I just can't help but wonder why one third of the Energy Dept's long term budget allocation is earmarked for development funding of MASSIVE new computers and data storage systems. Just think what Hitler's black shirts could have done with real computers, not just the card sorters IBM supplied to them.

[powwowdancer]

21. WHO HAS THE INHUMAN SPYING?!

Argh.

:dem:
powwowdancer out

[leveymg]

22. Inside the US or just everywhere else? Or is there no distinction anymore?

[happydreams]

23. Looks like DEA's discoveries of CIA drug dealing will now

be filtered. But I thought the CIA always had the last say on these things anyway.