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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:05 PM
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Report: Cheney's office opposed Miers nomination to court
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 01:12 PM by Pirate Smile
Veteran conservative columnist and pundit John Fund asserts in the Wall Street Journal today that the offices of Vice President Dick Cheney and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales tried to block the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, RAW STORY has learned.

"A last minute effort was made to block the choice of Ms. Miers, including the offices of Vice President Cheney and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales," Fund claims. "It fell on deaf ears."

"Indeed, even internal advice was shunned," Fund adds. White House Chief of Staff Andrew "Card is said to have shouted down objections to Ms. Miers at staff meetings. A senator attending the White House swearing-in of John Roberts four days before the Miers selection was announced was struck by how depressed White House staffers were during discussion of the next nominee. He says their reaction to him could have been characterized as, "Oh brother, you have no idea what's coming."

Though he has stumped for Bush's nominee, Cheney has taken a lower profile in recent days. Last week, he skipped out of the 50th anniversary party for the National Review, a conservative heavyweight in Washington.

http://www.rawstory.com/
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:11 PM
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1. it sounds as if the Whitehouse is not a happy place
these days
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:13 PM
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2. Cheney/Rove trying to blame everything on Card
Whatevuh. Boys, boys -- to us you're *all* disgusting!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:31 PM
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10. the rookies Card and Bartlett are trying to run the show as rove and chene
have their own problems(rovegate).
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:16 PM
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3. It is a gossipy piece but it is more Republicans eating there own so it
is quite enjoyable.

The non-leak WH (except for the leaks they want to put out) has a deluge of negative, back-biting leaks flowing steadily out now.

The "loyalty above all else" Shrub can't be happy.

:evilgrin:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:53 PM
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16. white horse? white Hoarse? oh, white HOUSE
I can't think of a better place to be unhappy.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:09 AM
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53. Fear and loathing
in the white HEARSE.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:01 PM
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19. To get the feel, watch Downfall,
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 02:03 PM by JDPriestly
which portrays Hitler's last days in the bunker. The history is very different, but the bunker mentality is similar. Loyalty was Hitler's guide in the last days. The disloyal were shot; the loyal were promoted. Sound familiar?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:18 PM
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4. Wow. That makes it sound more & more like a fuck-you move by Bush
I can just see him stomping his foot & saying "I can nominate anyone I want because I'M the PRESIDENT!"

What I want to be reading now in the MSM is honest speculation about what his real motive might be in having put her forward--was it his normal batshit craziness, or was it crazy-like-a-fox-ness, as in she's his personal insurance for future SC cases he might be personally involved in?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:32 PM
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11. This comports with my suspicion
I could be entirely wrong, but my suspicion has been that Miss Miers was nominated as a reactionary move by Little Lord Pissypants in the wake of Brownie's fall from power: "You think THAT was cronyism? I'll SHOW you cronyism! And if you're all hand-wringing over my dereliction of FEMA, hell, I'll fuck up the Supreme Court if I wanna."

It also makes the Miers nomination more and more personal: Reject Miers, and you reject the person who nominated her. Do the Republicans have the nerve to buck Bush, or is his corrupt administration still running the show and calling all the shots? Some Republicans are making dissenting noises and rearing up on their hind legs, but is it all for show?

Time, as usual, will probably tell.
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:11 AM
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49. She would have to recuse herself on any case involving shrub n/t
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:00 PM
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61. I wonder, what with Rove being busy w/Plamegate, if this is just the first
decision Bush had to make on his OWN! And that's why it's particularly messed up.
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librarycard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:19 PM
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5. Bush is trying to save his own ass w/Miers
He doesn't give a damn about Cheney since the Chimp still has something to prove to Poppy in this "every man for himself" scenario.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:39 PM
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39. And this is why the Dems have stepped aside. (smart)
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:20 PM
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6. "Are you not entertained?!?!"
I for one, sure as hell am!

:popcorn: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :popcorn: :rofl: :applause:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:40 PM
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40. There is always a shock &awe around de corner, this ones on them.
ROFLMAO!!!!
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:24 PM
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7. I just don't know about all this. Are we being punk'd?
It just seems pretty far-out that the Bushies would crash and burn so hard on something as big as a SC nomination.

:shrug:
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:37 PM
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13. I'm with you.......
"The lady doth protest too much..." We are being had!
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oioioi Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:52 PM
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44. Attempt to portray Congress' independence from Executive?
Thinking about 06 elections?

Putting distance between the Senate and Mr. thirty-nine percent?

Sumpthin's up.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:20 PM
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21. Yeah, yeah. And the Nazis were so smart and efficient
That they couldn't be defeated either.

PLEASE stop swallowing the propaganda whole.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:22 PM
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22. Alrighty then.
:crazy:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:36 PM
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27. Actually, this makes sense a bit. According to Finneman(sp?) on
the Chris Matthews Show, the WH is waged in a titanic battle between the damaging potential indictments of the Cheney/Rove camp, ant he
WH Chief of Staff Card camp in trying to keep their distance. At this point, it seems to be everyman for him/it self!!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:24 PM
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8. A house divided.......
and they all go tumbling down....



:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:12 AM
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54. But we still have three more years
of this damage, corruption and incompetence.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:26 PM
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9. Rove and Cheney both out of view?
Maybe Cheney expects bad news form the GJ too?
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:37 PM
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12. Consistent with rumors of Rove vs. Card fighting,
and with other rumors of a Bush-Cheney rift. But there is also the fact that both Cheney and Rove have been sick lately, too. But for whatever reason, Bush seems to be trying to go it alone lately. It might well be that Bush himself has instituted a "revolt," bucking against his primary handlers, Cheney and Rove, and they are retaliating by simply leaving him to his own devices, which would explain the rather obvious flailing the WH is doing these days (for example, this morning's absolutely pathetic photo op of the president talking to soldiers on a vidoeconference call; how best to emphasize the fact that they are in Iraq in harms way while he is sitting in Washington.)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:57 PM
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18. does leaving Bush to his own devices constitute cruel & unusual punishment
to the nation? Does anyone really deserve that much suffering, disaster and destruction?

Wanna see some president get tired and resign?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:49 AM
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50. Scuttlebutt (I love that word) is that Rove is preoccupied with Plamegate.
There was a piece in the WP this morning which suggested this.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:14 AM
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55. Here is the link to the WP story that suggests this.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:38 PM
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14. Wow, you would never know it from the fulsome praise
Alberto was dishing out on TV the other day!!!

But, hey, Fund must have an in--how else could Mr. 'Pro-Life, Knocked Up His Ex-Girlfriend's Teenage Daughter and Made Her Get an Abortion and Then Assaulted Her' Fund, get away with all the shit he has gotten away with, were he not blessed with friends in very high places?
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:44 PM
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15. Could * actually have been reading reviews of his
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 01:45 PM by rosesaylavee
actions this past - oh is it five years already? - and taken matters "into his own hands"? That would explain the Miers nomination. Couldn't understand why Cheney or Rove would think this was strategic given their plan. NOW it makes sense.

Poor little man - his puddin head must be hurtin' with all that heavy thinking for himself. Pathetic to know that Card is still hanging on.

Its about to fall apart folks. Get your cameras ready.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:53 PM
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17. here's my take...
Harriets nomination could be equated to *'s hiring a 'dismissal of all charges'. The funding of think-tanks and media representatives for the last several decades is all about protecting wealth. i am sure there is a long list of 'appropriate' nominees, groomed by the heavy hitters for just this day, and * disappointed all when he choked in order to cover his own ass. The 'religous' factor is alot of smoke. What these people are offended by is anybody trying to take any of their money away, and Harriet is not one of theirs.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:02 PM
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20. For those who wish to read the original Wall Street Journal
article:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110007398

How She Slipped Through
Harriet Miers's nomination resulted from a failed vetting process.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

"There's a standard vetting process that we go through with all nominees."--White House spokesman Scott McClellan

"The president is very, very confident in his judgments about people, and he likes to reward loyalty."--Brad Berenson, an associate White House counsel in the first Bush term
-------------------------------------------------

President Bush has told friends that he learned how to manage from three places: Harvard Business School, his experiences working in the Texas oilfields and with baseball teams, and from watching his father. In all three places he learned valuable skills: flexibility, the importance of team effort, discretion, how to delegate. The one thing he apparently didn't learn was that you never short-circuit the standard vetting process when filling an important job, even when doing so has worked out in the past.
The vetting of Harriet Miers leaves questions that demand answers, not more spin or allegations that critics are "sexist" or "elitist." It was so botched and riddled with conflicts of interest that it demands at a minimum an internal White House investigation to ensure it won't happen again.

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:06 PM
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31. That's a really good article. eom.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:20 PM
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35. Thank you for posting the actual link to the story
so that I don't have to run the gauntlet of RawStory's advertisers when the story was already established by an MSM source..

Doesn't this break Rule # 5 of the LBN Rules? I mean it seems like any site could repurpose a link and then run people through their site for gain..

I don't understand why this keeps going on, should we ALL do this because I could sure use the money for my site and TAKEBACKTHEMEDIA.COM EXCLUSIVE sure would look cool on LBN..

I'm not attacking anyone, just wondering why we All shouldn't be doing this if it seems to be allowed..

Aren't the rules for everyone to adhere to?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:24 PM
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23. Does anyone remember the Daily Show where...
Stewart showed a clip of a meeting where Bush made an incredibly pointed comment about the next appointee with Gonzales in the room?

Stewart chuckled and said, "Wow, Bush is either going to nominate Alberto Gonzales or he was just an absolute dick to Alberto Gonzales."

I think there is not just a split at the White House, I agree with the journalist from Vanity Fair who said everyone is out to cover his own ass now.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:27 PM
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24. was he worried about Bush'd AWOL stuff?
now perhaps Bush's AWOL stuff will come out now = Miers.
When can we have a 'squeaky clean' government please?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:30 PM
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25. john fund now leaking, that's significant
The Bush Ship is leaking all over and John Fund, Bush media apologist and stalwart repug, is poking another hole. I guess he's jumping ship next as it continues to go down...
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #25
47. Was Fund the guy that was dating his girlfriend's daughter?
Or some other trashy republican behavior?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:34 AM
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58. Yep I believe that he was. Republican moral values, dontcha know?
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:34 PM
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26. My God people - 1,194 days left in this presidency
Think about it. The man only took the oath of office last January 21. In just that short period of time all the walls have caved in and now it is clear that all his hand-holders are fleeing, leaving him to stand and fidgit, exposed naked to the world as the fool and idiot he has always been.

This may be funny and amusing to some people, even to me, but my God it causes me to be equally worried too. This country has enemies, real enemies and even more enemies since this gang of gangsters came into existence. What in the WORLD is keeping the North Koreans from boiling over the 48th paraell? What in the WORLD is keeping China away from Taiwan? This government couldn't react now to a hay silo explosion in Kansas, much less to a direct attack against our legitimate interests abroad or to our civilian population at home.

Christ almighty - this man absolutely has to go. If there really are any serious people in Washington who are sincerely interested in the preservation of this nation, much less constitutional democracy, they need to either be talking this idiot into resigning or preparing articles of impeachment.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:26 PM
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28. Couldn't agree with you more....
although it's satisfying for us to see the WH flailing like it has been of late, it also raises some serious issues...i.e. who the fuck is in charge? With Rove and Cheney running for cover the only ones left are *'s crony nitwits to try and help.

The whole damn administration is a bunch of unqualified Brownie look-alikes.
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:30 PM
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42. My feelings exactly
"If there really are any serious people in Washington who are sincerely interested in the preservation of this nation" may they help us now. If * is in meltdown mode, I don't want him taking us down with him.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:43 PM
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43. "If there really are any serious people in Washington who are sincerely
interested in the preservation of this nation, much less constitutional democracy, they need to either be talking this idiot into resigning or preparing articles of impeachment."

Just had to see that again.

Nail. Hammer.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:54 PM
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29. Seems that neocons, fiscal conservatives, GOP loudmouths, & Cheney
will all paint themselves as being for only "qualified candidates" while the Bush WH & Democrats will be the ones backing her nomination and thus - incompetence.

You gotta wonder...:shrug:
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hiabrill Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:59 PM
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30. it's getting better everyday.....
:bounce: :rofl: :popcorn: :rofl:

I want more..... alot more....
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:08 PM
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32. Who'd ever think Miers would cause such a ruckus!!!
LOL!!! Ya gotta love it!!!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:41 PM
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41. That sweet little old darling.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:53 AM
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52. And she is such a good Christian too. Tsk. Tsk. How sad.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:21 AM
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56. Even that drip David Brooks
...has exposed her total lack of qualifications for the job and the betrayal of what he calls conservative ideas and thinking. his NYTimes column quotations from her writings were alarmingly vapid.
It seems that all (even the formerly loyal and sycophantic) now want to put distance bewteen themselves and *.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:33 AM
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57. I am delighted that someone knows how to use the word "drip" this way.
What does that make us, about 50 years old?
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:52 PM
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60. My first thought was, "No. I remember using drip as an adjective in that
manner......" Oh. That's right. I am very nearly 50.....
x( Sometimes I forget.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:10 PM
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33. Trouble in Paradise. Oh dear. Sorry to hear it.
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:20 PM
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36. It gives me hope
To think that Cheney/Bush/Rove might be disagreeing on things!Indictments coming-backstabbing all the while???
Something is definitely up! However, when Ms. Meirs was nominated, I immediately thought it was only because he hopes she would save his ass,(so he must be good and scared of something,no?) so IF she goes thru he will be a bit untouchable I suspect, however, I hope like hell she doesn't. Bush will be more exposed than ever. I do believe they are all finally trying to turn on the twisted fuck!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:24 PM
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37. yes the system is cracking. Not good for shrub.
He needs a lot of propping up.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:15 PM
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34. God, how I love it so
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:37 PM
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38. I guess Laura was the heavy weight on this one.....Way to go Laura!!
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uncertainty1999 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:04 AM
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45. So, Cheney SUPPORTED Meirs after being AGAINST her...
Hmm....sounds vaguely familiar
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 12:20 AM
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46. I think the rumors are true! Bush and Cheney are feuding!!
That is why the colossal fuckups keep happening to Bush with these cheezy photo ops gone awry. Rumor is that Cheney and Rove are on one side, and Bush and Card on the other. Bush without a brain... oy.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:52 AM
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51. Coup attempt by Cheney? Bush counterattacking by tying Cheney to
Plamegate? Tune in next Friday for all of the exciting action "As the Worm Turns"!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:36 AM
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48. Whatever the reason, it sure is entertaining...
to see them eat their own.:popcorn:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:22 AM
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59. Andy Card has finally made his appearance known
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