Scott McClellan Says Helen Thomas Opposes 'War on Terrorism'

[TomClash]

Scott McClellan Says Helen Thomas Opposes 'War on Terrorism'

By E&P Staff

Published: October 13, 2005 3:50 PM ET

NEW YORK Questions today from longtime White House reporter Helen Thomas caused White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan to declare that she opposes the war on terrorism. His response caused one of Thomas's colleagues, Terry Moran, to leap to her defense.

Here is the exchange from the official transcript:

THOMAS What does the President mean by "total victory" -- that we will never leave Iraq until we have "total victory"? What does that mean?

McCLELLAN: Free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East, because a free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions --

<snip>

THOMAS They also know we invaded Iraq.

McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, the President recognizes that we are engaged in a global war on terrorism. And when you're engaged in a war, it's not always pleasant, and it's certainly a last resort. But when you engage in a war, you take the fight to the enemy, you go on the offense. And that's exactly what we are doing. We are fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here. September 11th taught us --

THOMAS It has nothing to do with -- Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

McCLELLAN: Well, you have a very different view of the war on terrorism, and I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism. The President recognizes this requires a comprehensive strategy, and that this is a broad war, that it is not a law enforcement matter.

Terry.

TERRY MORAN On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?

McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.

MORAN And speak for her, which is odd.

McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --

THOMAS I'm opposed to preemptive war, unprovoked preemptive war.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- she's expressed her concerns.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001305789

[sarcasmo]

1. Little scotty doesn't like it when your not on his team.

[liveoaktx]

42. VIDEO-heavily edited WH Press Conf

More Questions than Hot Air

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

50. liveoaktx, that is a brilliantly edited piece...

thanks for putting it together. MKJ

[nodehopper]

144. question--what's the deal with that guy

who asked about oprah and child molestors and homosexual groups...what is his deal? was that a dig against queer groups or was that a dig against the administration's homophobia?

[Broken_Hero]

131. yeah, no doubt...

If you aren't on his team, than i bet he cries to his stuffed bear at night, wishing hateful thoughts...what a moron, but again...

[Hobarticus]

2. How this man sleeps at night is a mystery to me...

One has to wonder if he even knows the truth anymore, himself.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

20. How he sleeps?

In the loving arms of JimmyJeff GannyGuck, that's how!

:evilgrin:

[PurpleChez]

118. Yeah...right..."arms."

Actually, Lil Scotty is so far up *'s ass that he's absolutely blinded by the imbecile's scat.

[politick]

119. Dictators need shills like him n/t

[Cha]

30. And I hear his mother

is running for Gov of Texas..lucky them.

[ticapnews]

34. He sleeps easily...

Chugging a bottle of Nyquil before bed will do that for you...

[Ilsa]

73. It's easy for these thugs because they have no consciences.

They are evil and rotten to the bone. If they do lack sleep, it is probably part of a ritual to make their appearances uglier and more evil.

[Ilsa]

74. Hey Helen, We've got your back here on DU! eom

[INdemo]

86. No..he sleeps with these thugs...

[howmad1]

142. Well, when you got Jeff Guckert/Gannon to tuck you in........

.....sleep comes pretty easy.:evilgrin:

[madrchsod]

3. ya really have to be in disarray to accuse

the dean of the press core of supporting terrorists....

[peacefreak]

4. That*Woman*Rocks.

She may be in her 80's, but she says what she means & means what she says. Scotty, you shouldn't mess with some one so far out of your league.

[Lena inRI]

79. Helen Thomas=Truthseekersentinel

:yourock:

[cornermouse]

5. I'm with Helen.

If we're going to choose sides, I'll take Helen's side.

[MelissaB]

6. Count me in, too.

[The Doctor.]

129. You mean like...

TRUTHFULNESS???

That's something of a liability what with the energy market how it is and all...

[Faygo Kid]

7. This is outrageous. And Bush wants to make the military domestic police.

No dissent allowed, thank you very much. The combination of this absolute outrage and the staged and choreographed questions from the troops, along with the call for making the American military a domestic police force under Bush's control (because of Avian flu - yeah, right) ought to give everyone pause. McLellan should be fired for this; he will probably get the Medal of Freedom. They are rattled. And that means we are in danger.

[Debau2005]

25. I agree

Cornered animals are always the most dangerous. It may get worse before it gets better!

[BeHereNow]

8. Snotty, don't even try this shit with Helen-

She'll chew you up and spit you out
before you know what hit your sorry ass.
DISGUSTING little sychophant- God he is
beyond hideous.
BHN

[rodeodance]

and two minutes Scott pulls another fast one (inserts 'may')

....TERRY MORAN On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?

McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.

MORAN And speak for her, which is odd.

McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --

[BeHereNow]

21. He is a "moran"

Plain and simple.
Slipping and sliding around on his own
snot- a lying POS.
Well she "may" my ass Snotty.
Everyone KNOW you were trying to imply
she was pro-terror in order to demonize her.
It'll never work- we know what
a true patriot looks like and
you'll never see one in your mirror, you fuck head.
Snotty, YOU are the treasonous bastard among us.
Not the journalist icon that Helen Thomas is.
How dare that little shit try to
discredit someone who has spoken truth to power
longer than he's been alive.
FUCK him.
:mad:
BHN
Edited for foaming at the mouth typos...I'm furious at that cretin.

[mod mom]

36. Note to Terry Moran: this is a DU insider joke and no disrespect to you.

[BeHereNow]

44. ROLF! never crossed my mind! n/t

bhn

[progressivebydesign]

39. I caught that too! He flat out LIED right there. What a scum. n/t

[frogmarch]

12. Bravo, Helen!

She put the little pipsqueak in his place. Hw DARE he continue to try to connect 9-11 with the invasion of Iraq! Effing liar.

[BeHereNow]

18. Welcome to DU frogmarch!

Yes no one can mow down a lying POS
like Helen.
I declare her a NATIONAL TREASURE!
The eight wonder of the world.
BHN
:hi:

[Mnemosyne]

47. I second your nomination! Helen rocks! n/t

[Mnemosyne]

48. Welcome frogmarch, your nick

has a beautiful ring to it!:hi:

[CAcyclist]

102. Welcome to DU - like your username

:hi:

[0rganism]

9. Kudos to Terry Moran for standing up to the bastard

We can count on Helen to ask the tough questions. It's really nice to know that at least one member of the press corpse can be counted on to defend her when Snotty waves his dick at her.

[Voltaire99]

115. Uncharacteristic of Terry. Helen's influence?

If a bit of her courage is rubbing off on the typically numb and obedient Terry Moran, then there is still a little hope for him.

[goforit]

10. Whoo hooo Terry!!!...Whoo Hoooo Helen!!!!

:bounce:

[AzDar]

11. Bless Helen Thomas and Terry Moran, too.......Helen has been

keeping Shrubbie's mouthpieces on their toes since Day 1 of his Pseudo-dency!!

[donheld]

13. Scott McClellan is a jackass (no offense to jackasses ment)

He's the spokesjackass.

[El Supremo]

14. I heard her in the background reply:

"I oppose the wars in Afganistan and Iraq!"

[Iris]

15. Why is it that only the women speak out?

I never hear stuff like this from any man in power - except for people like Al Franken who are paid to speak out.

[Debi]

19. David Gregory has done a pretty good job...

Every time he pisses Scotty off NBC pulls him back to do the Today show until their spiff blows over.

[Iris]

35. I'll have to start keeping an eye on him, then!

thanks for the clue!

[Debi]

103. Just keep track of when he's on NBC bright and early along side

Katie & Al.

Then you know he's touched a nerve in D.C.

[Iris]

113. If only I could stand Katie & Al!

But it might be worth the pain of watching just to monitor things over at NBC!

[Captain Hilts]

56. Less to lose. Same with McCarthyism. nt

[tavalon]

82. Kieth Olbermann

But I know what you mean.

Now, if you mean politicians, we have Conyers, we have Obama sometimes, Kennedy sometimes, Al Gore has reincarnated as a spitfire of the highest caliber.

[Ellen Forradalom]

133. that's a bit unfair to Franken

But yes, the ladies usually have the brass ones.

[EuroObserver]

134. More cojones n/t

[oregonindy]

16. I say oppose the spokesman for the culture of corruption

by urging all the press to frickin walk out on his daily lie session.

[Dover]

17. Not at all. Helen just knows who the REAL terrorists are......n/t

[BiggJawn]

22. "Sept. 11 taught us..."

Yeah, you wanna know what 9-11 taught people with brains?

It taught us that a Reichstag isn't always called a Reichstag, and an Enabling Act can be called a PATRIOT Act.

[leesa]

81. Nicely put.

[PurpleChez]

121. VERY nicely put.

I know the ribbon magnet crowd flips out when anyone tries to make the comparison but 9/11 was *'s Reichstag fire. Luckily, his goals weren't QUITE as ambitious as Hitler's.

[Canuckistanian]

23. I'd like to know what 'total victory' is, too!

Iraq is "free and democratic" now, isn't it?

[Rose Siding]

24. That is so unbelievably over. the. top.

That a WH press secretary would use an on-the-record briefing to assert the position of a REPORTER is indecent. :grr:

...I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism.

Then it takes him just 3 more answers to LIE about what he JUST said:

No, I said she may be,

He made an unqualified, declarative statement! There was no "may be" about it. :grr:

[tblue37]

111. "I am sure"

is not quite the same as "may," now, is it?

[MsUnderstood]

122. BINGO!

That is exactly what I wanted to point out.

He makes a statement in no uncertain terms that this how she is then says "I said she may be".

Will anyone call him to the carpet? I want to see Helen Thomas go after a public apology. . but then she'd be painted as the whining media if she did.

[against all enemies]

26. White House declares Helen Thomas UNAMERICAN !!!!

Can't Rove find out anything about her husband, or children.

[ClintonTyree]

117. Someone who "outs" a covert CIA operative........

is UN-AMERICAN! :evilfrown: Someone who questions an illegal and immoral regime about their propaganda is called a PATRIOT! :patriot: Try as they may, the bush White House can never get these two straight and keep mistaking one for the other.

Helen is a national treasure and the ONLY one who was asking the tough questions of these traitors from the start. Even when the rest of the White House Press Corps was falling over themselves trying to out suckass the others, Helen stood strong in her convictions. This woman should be awarded the Nobel Prize!

[Joe Chi Minh]

27. That's the trouble with their mindset.

It shouldn't be a "war on terrorists" (terrorism, itself, of course, is a concept), because, when the indigenous people are on the side of the insurgents, asymmetric warfare cannot be won by hostile regular forces, even employing irregulars.

An ongoing, preventive civil campaign must of course be waged at home by the appropriate national-security agencies, and the causes of the insurgents disaffection - so extreme as to often be suicidal, just so long as some of the enemy can be killed - identified, acknowledged and settled. People don't behave like that without a genuine and very serious grievance.

[msongs]

28. McCLellan is a PAID liar...why do you dignify him with space? nt

[tavalon]

83. Very easy target and more than deserving of our ire.

We do this so that we can continue the good work outside of here.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

29. Good Plan

You're a White House in the middle of a public relations meltdown, so the obvious strategy is to alienate the White House press corps. That's the sort of strategy they don't teach in Public Affairs School.

What a dipshit.

This is going to be fun.

[progressoid]

31. Well, it only took 5 years, but some are finding their backbones again.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

32. Somebody needs to kick Scotty's butt...repeatedly.

[progressivebydesign]

40. Rev. Falwell says the Lord is okay if you kick the ass of the unpatriotic.

So, I think you'd be forgiven if you kicked it. Cuz Scotty is just NOT patriotic.

[Just Me]

33. BLOATED BASTARD!!!

:grr: EW! :grr: HOW DARE HE TALK TO HELEN THAT WAY!! :grr:

[daleo]

37. This is one Moran who doesn't need to grab a brain.

That little gem of freeperism will never be quite the same to me.

[hvn_nbr_2]

38. Another sign that they're coming unglued. n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

41. OLBERMANN will be covering this press conference and the scripted photo-op

TONIGHT. Here's a thread on this, including a COMPILATION of current DU threads on the scripted photo-op and the bizarre press conference:

threads on the scripted photo-op plus McClellan's lying press conference - in which, by the way, Scotty also accused Helen Thomas of opposing the war on terrorism!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5054730
Thread title: ***Olbermann covers the scripted photo-op & lying press conf TONIGHT***

[Occulus]

58. I get the overall impression that the * administration is scared as hell.

Anyone else?

[Nothing Without Hope]

62. Yes, I think so too. Be sure to see the segment of the Olbermann show

on Oct 13 with Dana Millbank of the Wash Post. They go over that, how the wheels seem to be coming off. Millbank has the interesting suggestion that it really started when Bush refused to speak to Cindy Sheehan, and they go through other things, even the crazed body language of Bush and the 2% polls for black voters. Telling quote: "Nobody is ralling behind Bush now." (from memory; I may have it slightly off) See that clip at a link here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5054730&mesg_id=5056247

It's the third video clip of the four posted here.

[BattyDem]

43. Hey Scotty ...

Helen Thomas has more patriotism in a single blood cell than you have in your entire body! :P

[Solly Mack]

45. I oppose the war on terror

it's got jack shit to do with terror

it's about control

[noahmijo]

60. bastard ya beat me to it!

hehe my first thought when I read the headline to this thread was "fuck the war on terror I oppose it to!" for the very reasons you just stated.

Besides you can't declare war on a non-living entity.

[tulsakatz]

46. I think if Scotty does not want to talk to people who disagree with him...

.....he should move someplace where free speech is not allowed!!!

These people love to accuse liberals of communist type labels but in truth, they act much more like communists than the liberals ever could!!

I couldn't believe that he's still trying to sell the 'we fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here' BS!!! After the London attacks, we now know they can CLEARLY do both at the same time!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

49. He must be a Joe McCarthy fan.

Along with Ann "the Man" Coulter.

[VolcanoJen]

66. That's the first image that popped into my head when I read this.

Joe McCarthy.

Bad timing, Scotty... see, there's this big Hollywood movie coming out, and...

[willing dwarf]

51. "Total Victory"

That line * used about "Not stoping until we achieve total victory" in his spiele to the troops today stuck out to me too. I'm so glad Helen Thomas asks about this stuff. She is the voice of the people, and for so long was the only one doing the work of asking the hard questions.

And go ahead Terry Moran!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

53. indeed.

once you start peering too close to the core of their message they get very defensive. they have two options, fight or flight. they choose fight with Helen.

it's a similar problem the chimp faces with Sheehan. she wants to ask him a simple question that peers too close to the core. They choose flight with Cindy.

[flordehinojos]

52. scott mcclellan has fingered helen thomas as an enemy of the state.

if helen thomas happens to disappear ... we will know that bush's repressive gulag got her. and more seriously, mcclellan's fingering of helen thomas may be the starting of publicly fingering (as a way of intimidating) those reporters who dare to question the bush shit in the oval office.

[pinniped]

54. Once again, these monkeys are regurgitating the same tired lines.

We've only seen them in print about 1000 times.

Ari got tired about the constant lying, how long can poor scotty go?

[Captain Hilts]

55. I zapped a 'thank you' to Terry Moran at ABC news. nt

[HuffleClaw]

57. wow, they are coming unglued

and AGAIN it gets national coverage almost immediately. this is great stuff. finally, they expose themselves to be the incompetant boobs that they are. a paranoid person might think these little things are calculated. the zimbabwe thing comes to mind immediately, just one more attempt to distract from their domestic woes.

[NVMojo]

59. their PR tactics are wearing thin, this one is a replay of "unpatriotic"

bullshit that was flung at anyone who questioned invading Iraq ...

[ernstbass]

92. Yep, attacking the press isn't going to work

the public is getting wise to this lame ploy of the administration. Craig Crawford has an excellent new book on this subject.

[krkaufman]

61. Fastest flip-flop ever....?

McClellan to Helen Thomas: "I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism."

... and the very next time he opens his mouth, responding to Terry Moran's questioning the basis of McClellan's statement...

McClellan to Moran: "No, I said she may be, ..."


What a punk.

[LatinoSocialist]

76. She should have waited for him in the school playground...

the bastard...I would have enjoyed seeing that little pig get his bitch ass beat.

[donkeyotay]

106. Helen could take him

The little McCarthyite. I oppose their stupid war on terror. Define me Scotty. Tell me what that means. I didn't vote for bush? I DON'T support our troops? Go ahead Scotty, let's finally define the war on terror. And let's define all the other slogans and cliches, too. What does it mean to support our troops? Does it mean, "Do not criticize the administration?" What does "staying the course" mean? Never admit a mistake? How about, "freedom's on the march" and all the other spin-doctored drivel that you've spewed.

[krkaufman]

112. Too funny. That's just what I was thinking...

... the whole schoolyard beatdown thing. I'm finding that mental image flashing through my brain more and more often, as I stumble over video clips of Bush Admin officials... McClellan, Rove, Cheney, Bush himself. They're all due for a whole can of whoop-ass accountability.

[AntiFascist]

63. This is great!

Now more than ever the reporters need to be asking "Why are we still in Iraq?" Bush keeps calling Saddam a fascist, but last I heard he was in prison. It's really certain Saudis who control all the oil money, who are buying into our media and banking systems, and who are acting simultaneously together with the terrorists and with the administration that we need to be worried about. The insurgents may be coming from neighboring countries, but where is their funding coming from? If America stays on its current track we will decline to the point where we no longer have a say in what happens in the Middle East because Asia will be in control, and China hasn't adopted democracy yet either. Even Nixon would be better for us now than what we have!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

64. If anyone deserves a swift kick to the nuts, it's Scotty McSpokeshole.

Good for Helen Thomas and Terry Moran for having balls (so to speak).

[pinniped]

65. Poor scotty, constantly lying his sorry ass off.

Ari had enough of these scum, how long can poor scotty hold out?

[kick_them_hard]

67. Sticking fingers in ears....

SCOTTY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!!!!! LALALALLALLALLLALLALALALLAAAAA!~~~

[Hekate]

68. Will wonders never cease. Thank You Terry Moran. At long last...

...another reporter finally standing with the gutsy Helen Thomas.

Hekate
:wow:

[demobrit]

69. McClellan just lost

When a person attacks another person like this they lose

[Caretha]

70. I agree

It also shows how scared they are of Helen. Bet she opens a big can of whoopass on this miserable excuse for a human in her next column. Makes me smile to think an 80 yr old woman makes them stutter. It also shows how weak their "game" really is.

[Bassic]

71. This guy is so condescending,

If I ever met him, I'd probably throw up in his face.

Ugly, evil man, that he is.

[Lena inRI]

78. Scott McClellan=Bushitspreader

:puke:

[Puglover]

72. I like Terry Moran alot...

he has been walking a tightrope throughout this whole embroglio and yet (to me at least) manages to let you know this administration is insane.

[OKthatsIT]

75. God Bless Helen Thomas

And all the other women who have stood up and been counted!

[Evergreen Emerald]

77. "she's expressed her concerns"

And that makes her a target. I should not be surprised anymore at how far they will go to stifle dissent. She was attacked for doing her job--demanding the answers from the administration. What is Scotty there for if not to answer questions? It shows that sham of the whole press briefing process.

His statement was ugly and points to the dangerousness of this administration. They wanted to minimize her as a wacko who likes terrorists because she is not a lemming.

They sicken me...the whole damn bunch of em.

We love you Helen. You are asking the questions that I want them to answers. Thanks for your patriotism.

[Blue_Roses]

80. WOW--

JUST WOW! I like Terry Moran! He always calls it as he sees it!

[Lasher]

84. My most memorable Helen Thomas quote

"I have never covered a president who actually wanted to go to war. Bush's policy of pre-emptive war is immoral - such a policy would legitimize Pearl Harbor. It's as if they learned none of the lessons from Vietnam," she said to enthusiastic applause.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/thomas-1106.html

I remember when Helen used to sit on the front row at press conferences. I don't know if that was decided by seniority, or something like that. When Bush took office she promptly lost her front row seat. How typical of this fascist regime, punishing all those who refuse to be part of their propaganda machine!

[Blue_Roses]

88. mine is

"worst President ever..."

[Lasher]

89. Oh, I didn't know that was a Thomas quote (EOM)

She's right, he is.

[PurpleChez]

141. Does anyone have the full quote?

I'd love to read it in context. God bless ya, Helen!

[Catchawave]

Isn't Terrorism a criminal act ?

Like Tim McVeigh and the Unabomber, et al ? I never thought the 9-11 attacks were an Act of War, just some loonies that slipped by our intelligence (including our crack administration team!)

Now Pearl Harbor was an act of war, because we were attacked by a military under orders from their government leaders.

We still haven't found OBL ? And threat of terrorism is worse now than sporadic cases pre-9-11. And we have killed more innocent civilians than have killed us. What a way to sell Democracy :crazy:

So yes, I agree with and support Helen Thomas and Scotty is full of sh*t.

[emald]

85. this slimey little liar

snotty mcfellate is a liar. Paid to lie. His excoriation of HT is disgusting; as disgusting as his boss. They should all fall on their swords (die) for the benefit of all human beings. Should they end their own lifes then my respect for them would climb a bit from the bottom end of the scale but not much more. Lying fucks. Godamn it can you imagine growing up and becoming the paid liar for a lying SOB? Lying your ass off on tv in front of the whole country. Jeeeeezzzzz. I am pissed off. Die you little toadie shit. I pray to my god that you die a horrible septic twisted long and slow death with much time for consideration of your lies right along side that monster you worship with dick sucking pleasure. Ahhhhh shit now my day is ruined with hate. shit.

[imouttahere]

93. I understand, emald....

we all need to rant like that now and then...it's just that nowadays the "now and then" is everyday.

[DFWJock]

87. This just in...

Helen hates American, loves Saddam.
BushCo said so, must be true.

[Terran]

90. Well, Scotty's probably right, technically.

Helen Thomas probably does oppose the "broader war on terrorism," as should we all. Why? because it's a myth and a big sloppy bucket of propaganda. It's a tool to promote fascism. It's perpetual war and perpetual fear. It's complete and utter bullshit and it has to STOP under the next Democratic administration. Dealing with terrorism IS a law enforcement matter, and a diplomatic matter, and a matter of, for ONCE, treating other countries with respect instead of exploiting them. I really wish someone in the press would step up and say what needs to be said. The war on terror is the last tattered shred of an idea that's keeping Bush afloat as President. If we could somehow expose it for what it is, Bush would melt away like the Wicked Witch.

[DirtyDawg]

91. You're damn right...

...Wouldn't it be lovely if somebody in that bunch - the WH press corps - would stand up and ask, 'Hey Scottie, just what do YOU think the 'broader war on terrorism', is?...because if it's the disaster that's become known as the biggest strategic blunder in our nation's history, then you're damn right we're opposed to it. And even more, we're opposed to nit-wits like you that stand before us muttering that same old, tragically tired, 'here instead of there', bullshit.

[yellowcanine]

96. Yep - She gets the last word when she says she opposes "premptive

unprovoked wars." Poor little Scotty. He is just no match for Helen Thomas. We need a referee to stop the fight when Scotty gets into it with Helen.

[xchrom]

94. scotty -- you're a first class pig.

fuckin liar -- it's gonna take a far, far better man than you to take hellen thomas down.

[Supersedeas]

95. is being opposed to the broad war like being opposed to collateral damage?

[longship]

97. Helen, take little Scotty down, take him down HARD!

nt

[Orion The Hunter]

98. McClellan is an empty suit

Moran and Thomas rightfully lampoon that idiot by calling into question the stupid basis of his premise.

[Old Vet]

100. Everyday this administration stoops lower, Embarrassing!

[SillyGoose]

99. Sanctimonious smug a-hole. So what if Helen is opposed to this

so-called war on terror? She's entitled to have any damn view of this war she wants to have. What's the point of bringing that up in a damn press briefing you little sniveling shit?? Its her job as a journalist to ask questions, even the ones you don't like Mr. Smarty-pants.

:grr:

[JugDack]

101. No 'D' in 'important', Scotty!

Anybody else sick to death of hearing him pronounce 'important' as 'impordant'??

It seems like Bush picked him just because they have the same problems with speech. Kind of an odd thing for your public spokesperson to have. He sounds even LESS believable when he can't actual pronounce words well.

Dipstick...

[PurpleChez]

143. I heard a fascinating interview on NPR one afternoon

with a researcher who alleged that much of *'s linguistic retardation (and, one might extrapolate, that of his accompices) is contrived in order to appeal to the cretins and buffoons of the far right. Not sure if I believe this but it's interesting...after all, *'s dad might be a conniving ass-whore for the saudis, and his mother is a see-you-next-tuesday turd in a gas station lavatory, but he wasn't raised by wolves. By rights he should at least have as much command of english as Latka Gravis. But if it's true it's minor brilliance -- if you were to take them to task for "impordant" or "nookyoolar" or for making plurals with apostrophe-s (I bet he does that, too! ;) ) they can counter attack by accusing you of elitism, of bullying the simple folk. (Even when those simple folk are ivy league brazillianaires.) Whether or not this specific accusation is true this IS a fantastically anti-intellectual regime -- one more check box on the "are you a fascist?" list.

[Rex]

104. War as a last resort? To bad that was a lie.

Someone spank McClellan! Bad baby! Bad!

[LetsGoMurphys]

105. I don't think Scotty likes his job very much anymore n/t

[SeanQ]

107. so "expressed concerns" = "opposed to the war on terrorism" =

"you support terrorists". Well he didn't quite take that final step. Frelling despicable!

But then, as the pResident says, "you're either with us, or against us". And we know how he likes to handle those who are against him. :mad:

[Initech]

108. At this point, the WHPC has been replaced with real journalists!

[makeanoise]

110. Can't believe they still are saying this CRAP!

But wait a minute, we are talking about the BUSH Administration, so I guess i do believe it....Go Helen Go!
Screw 'em

[joshorton]

109. Who the hell do you think you are Scotty?

This is NOT the time for this douche bag to be calling people un-American while this sham of a White House runs for cover under allegations of treason. WTF, absolutely shameless. Moran did the right thing by saying something, but honestly, its something that has been too infrequent with reports. I say we urge more reports to take action and to say something and not always "go with the flow" so to speak.

[Voltaire99]

114. What "war on terrorism"?

A figment of our Patriot Act-ors and preemptive warriors, the "war on terrorism" is simply Bushism: vicious unbridled imperialism.

Rock on, courageous Helen.

[PinkyisBlue]

132. War on Terrorism

Count me as another opponent of the war on terrorism. Bushco are the true terrorists.

[Voltaire99]

116. Shades of Coulter smearing Thomas as "that old Arab"

The poison flows both ways these days--from the top to the sewer.

I read McClellan's baiting as a sign that desperation is gripping that rotten gang of criminals. They can't win in Iraq or at home; time to hound journalists.

[twaddler01]

120. LMAO

WATCH the video!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

On a more serious note, our nation is in trouble...

[slybacon9]

123. I'm opposed to it too.

if it looks like lying, murder, profiteering, and fear mongering... i guess i'm on that list as well Scotty... as well as the majority of americans right now.

I would so kick this guy's ass if i saw him on the street. Sorry, I'm not a buddhist.

[KamaAina]

124. You're off message again, Scotty.

It's the "war on terra", not "the war on terraism"! What's next, Scotty? The "Democratic Party" instead of "Democrat Party" like we told you? :sarcasm:

[0007]

125. Scotty won't be around much longer...I don't even know why the

press even bothers to show up for his two for a nickle one for a dime bull.

[twaddler01]

126. he seems pretty pathetic

:nuke:

[ArnoldLayne]

127. He ought to be more concerned about his boyfriend

Jeff "Bulldog" Gannon.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

128. then so do I

the only terror threatening the US or the world is right there in the White House.

[zonkra]

130. With all due respect, sir...

I yield that you're the true moran. Working for a true clan (Klan?) of morans, m'man.

[natrat]

135. this is a good read:

http://mediacitizen.blogspot.com/2005/10/media-no-longer-taking-flak.html

[EuroObserver]

136. Note: "broader Middle East"

seems to be rephrasing of "Greater Middle East," which stretches (at least) from Morocco to Pakistan but only corresponds to predominantly Moslem countries, according to NeoCon geographers...

ref. eg: http://www.brookings.edu/views/op-ed/fellows/wittes20040510.htm

in the context of which the relationship with (WMD-proliferating, non-democratic) Pakistan and the recent moves on Iran fall into place...

<snip>

McCLELLAN: Free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East, because a free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions --

THOMAS If they ask us to leave, then we'll leave?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm trying to respond. A free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the broader Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions of al Qaeda and their terrorist associates. They want to establish or impose their rule over the broader Middle East -- we saw that in the Zawahiri letter that was released earlier this week by the intelligence community.

</snip>

[AgadorSparticus]

137. wow, they must REALLY be scared and freaking out. scotty is a slimeball.

but always does a good job sliming for them. i've never seen him lose control like that. and because of it, he had to sink to repeating stupid propaganda bullshit memes that are old and tiring.

i mean, really, how many times can we hear that "we're going on the offense and taking the fight over there so we don't have to fight them over here" shit again??? he's paid to do a much better job than that. and he probably would have if he hadn't gotten so nasty to Helen.

Helen got him but GOOD!!! I thought he was more of a professional than that. he was too caught up in anger and hate and sank to unimaginative low's. what a sad, SAD pathetic bunch of evil, slimy bastards. GO HELEN!! Way to kick his sorry ass off that delusional pedestal.

[janx]

138. Did you see this happen?

I didn't, and I was appalled to see him using the tired propaganda lines too. Did he visibly lose control?

Unbelievable.

[AgadorSparticus]

140. you can tell he did. esp. when the other reporter supported helen.

he got pretty irate and there was so much emotion in his voice. he could barely contain his anger. and somewhere in the mix (i didn't watch the original press conference, just the edited clips) he sort of caught himself and tried to get out of the mess he got himself in by trying to laugh it off. it was inappropriate and needless to say, it didn't work.

[cascadiance]

139. And McClellan opposes the war on fascist corruption too!

If he's free to completely slander Helen, I feel like we can say just about anything we want about his behavior as well...

[BootinUp]

145. She's Un-American too!

heil *

[leesa]

146. I am also 100% opposed to the "war on terrorism" It's pure BS.

It's just a way to sell war toys and occupy countries. Just as meaningless as the "war against communism" and the "war on drugs". Purely designed to keep the arms sales flowing and to steal resources.