(Jack) Carter admits drug use

[stevedeshazer]

Jack Carter, the former president's son who is considering a bid for the U.S. Senate in Nevada next year, was discharged from the U.S. Navy 35 years ago for smoking marijuana and dropping acid twice.

In a brief telephone interview Thursday, Carter acknowledged the drug use.

"They came around and asked people if they had ever done drugs before, and I told them I had," he said. "I didn't lie about it. I told the truth."

Carter's discharge garnered little media attention at the time. But he discussed it in a June 2003 oral history interview with the Jimmy Carter Library and Museum.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051014/NEWS10/510140411/1016/NEWS

[Captain Hilts]

1. WHAT son? nt

[CottonBear]

6. You must be very young. Jimmy Carter has three sons and a daughter.

Amy was the only one to live in the White House. She was a late-born caboose.

[pelagius]

41. Didn't Steve Ford (son of Gerald) talk about smoking dope in the WH?

Old-timers, please help me out. Thought this was in Rolling Stone years ago.

[CottonBear]

46. That I don't remember. Try googling it. n/t

[deutsey]

59. I seem to recall he also admitted to smoking pot. Far worse,

he once even starred in a soap opera.

[deutsey]

60. Here's a link with some info

Steve Ford, son of former President Gerald Ford and Betty Ford, who as First Lady publicly talked about her recovery from alcoholism, will be the keynote speaker at this year’s Recovery Walk. Ford, who is in recovery, will talk about his experience as it pertains to his recovery and growing up in an alcoholic household. He will talk about the high price that’s paid for bad choices about drugs and alcohol; he also shares tools and actionable tasks that lead to a life lived with personal integrity and boundaries.
http://www.ncaddnj.org/default.asp

[tokenlib]

2. You should have added Jack to the thread title...

Of course you got me to click real fast. I just had to see if Jimmy had a new confession. Not that I would care...Jimmy is such a class act.

[stevedeshazer]

8. Added, thanks n/t

[asthmaticeog]

9. I thought it meant Jimmy, too.

Perhaps he lusted after drugs in his heart...

[livetohike]

3. He would get my vote

:-).

[tk2kewl]

5. every pol should hafta do acid at least once

it should be a litmus test :P

[CottonBear]

14. What you said.

;)

[Tace]

49. Yup

[livetohike]

63. Good one - litmus test

:-). But I don't think acid would help Bush.

I think if more politicians were honest about their past drug use, it would be no big deal. In fact, I would be suspicious of someone my age who said he/she never used drugs. (I'm 53).

[CottonBear]

10. Me too. I'd vote for him because, like his father, he's honest. n/t

[jody]

4. Telling the truth about using drugs disqualifies him for president. n/t

[Inland]

13. That's right. nt

[SteppingRazor]

7. Sweet. We need more national leaders who have dropped acid...

Anyone who has suffered under the effects of what I like to call Terminal Weirdness comes out a better person for it. Assuming they come out at all, of course.

[tk2kewl]

11. agreed

imagine if every Rep on the House floor dropped acid before that oil bill last week... :P

[SteppingRazor]

16. Ho ho! Someone should invite all of Congress to a meeting...

and then dose the punch bowl. Do it like an acid test, 1960s style. The world would never be the same.

Then again, a lot of these people are real monsters. Downright sociopaths. It's the only way to win in politics anymore. You can't have anything resembling a conscience. And I don't like the idea of 535 gibberings, hallucinating acidheads -- any of whom may or may not by a complete psychopath -- doesn't really sit with me the right way.

So forget what I said, tk2kewl. Some things are better left unknown.

[tk2kewl]

20. maybe they'd just eat each other and we could start over?

:shrug:

[SteppingRazor]

24. Jesus. It's too horrible...

cannibalistic acidhead Congressmen. I mean, it'd be like a bad B-movie if it wasn't a REAL POSSIBLITY.
What would these guys do if you fed them anything more than half a hit?
Sweet Jesus!! We're talking Tom Delay on LSD-25! Dennis Hastert, fer chrissake.
Well, Hastert wouldn't have much time to consider the larger ramifications of the trip. They'd probably roast him first.

[IntravenousDemilo]

35. Yum yum, Dennis Hastert basting in his own rotisserie juices,

with an apple shoved in his mouth. And you could probably render enough lard to make about two dozen pies.

[SteppingRazor]

39. .

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[genieroze]

38. cannibalistic acidhead Congressmen?

I don't even want to think about that one. :wow:

[SteppingRazor]

40. Hey, neither do I.

But this is the grim situation we face. Ah well. If you can't beat'em. Anyone know any good recipes for Spector Surprise?
I bet I could whip up a mean Hastert Marsala.

[Book Lover]

61. "Cannibalistic Acidhead Congressmen"

should be a band name...

[iamjoy]

64. Anyone Remember This One

Little ditty in the 1970s, to the tune of "Frere Jacques"

Marijuana, Marijuana, LSD, LSD
Richard Nixon makes it, Jimmy Carter takes it
Why can't we? Why can't we?

Of course, you can insert any politicans in there.

[IntravenousDemilo]

34. No, that would be the result of PCP.

I saw that on an episode of "CSI".

[MagickMuffin]

43. Grace Slick from Jefferson Airplane

almost got to spike the punch bowl at a Nixon event back in the day. She went to school with one of Nixon's daughter, and was invited to the party.

With acid on hand they were stopped by Secret Service and not allowed in.

[SteppingRazor]

44. Good story. Grace told me that one, too.

The broad had balls, as she would probably say.

[Captain Hilts]

12. I don't remember a son in the navy [grew up in navy community]

This means he would have been drummed out in 1970.

That would have come forward in the '76 campaign. I don't remember that.

[stevedeshazer]

18. It's in the article posted in the original link n/t

[OldLeftieLawyer]

27. Back then,

a candidate's family wasn't fair game like it is today, and "journalists" like Matt Drudge - was anyone ever more aptly named? - didn't exist in such number. Reporters didn't do all they could to humiliate and embarrass candidates and their families.

But, remember when McGovern dropped Eagleton because he'd been treated with EST for depression? And Ed Muskie crying in the rain because of the allegations Loeb made about his wife, Jane?

Keep in mind that GWB refused to answer questions about his drug use, and the MSM dropped it.

Friggin' hypocrites we have today.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

22. When the going gets weird, baby,

you know ..................

[SteppingRazor]

25. Damn straight I do, bubba --

We are, after all, professionals :evilgrin:

[OldLeftieLawyer]

28. We are not amateurs

We are ......... oh, fuck it.

<wink>

PS - OldLeftie is a bubbette.

[maxsolomon]

15. coke, fine. acid? disqualified.

coke is the drug of assholes, and only assholes can be president in the new amerikkka

[meganmonkey]

17. I think soon this will all seem so normal it won't even be news

I hope so, anyway.

Becase when I run for president, there is no way I can deny the massive amounts of pot, shrooms, and acid I have ingested in my life :)

[IntravenousDemilo]

36. I'd probably vote for you, except...

I'm not American.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

19. sounds like a decent guy

good for him on being honest.

[Left Turn]

21. I think....

we have reached a point now, where if people are open and honest about their drug use most of the electorate doesn't see it as a major issue.

[Traveling_Home]

23. 35 years ago was 1970 - VietNam

>Jack Carter, the former president's son who is considering a bid >for the U.S. Senate in Nevada next year, was discharged from the >U.S. Navy 35 years ago for smoking marijuana and dropping acid >twice.

1970 - VietNam - Discharged from Navy 'cause he told the truth.

Hmmmm.......

Anything connected with the 'Nam years and getting a out makes me go hmmmmmmmmmm.......

Old Guy - Traveling_Home

[MADem]

31. Uh, the time to get out on a doper discharge would have been BEFORE

you ALREADY DID A TOUR IN NAM--not AFTER. Sheesh!!! Of course, back then, if you were just going in to be fodder, they really did not care one way or another. Drug testing was reserved for people in PRP (personnel reliability program) jobs, not rank and file folk.

The kid got busted AFTER he CAME HOME FROM NAM. He was in Nuke School. Anyone who knows anything about the Navy in those days knows that kids were smoking dope on the fantail underway--and no one really gave a shit; there was plenty of "looking the other way" during that time. They only got shirty about drug use when PRP jobs, like aviation, nuke and so forth came into play. Rickover was especially draconian, but he was an exception to the general rule. The Navy was pleased to get a higher quality of recruit than the Army or the USMC, and so long as kids did their jobs, it was not that big a deal during the war years. If you got caught, you went to mast.

It helps to read the article before you ascribe motives to the youthful Mr. Carter, here is the money quote:
Carter joined the Navy in 1967, served one tour in Vietnam, working on a salvage ship outside of Da Nang. After returning from Vietnam, he was in a nuclear power school in Idaho Falls, Idaho, when the Navy caught him and 52 of his classmates in a marijuana raid.

Carter said he wasn't caught with drugs in his possession. But when they asked if he had smoked pot, he answered yes.

He was given a general discharge and left the Navy in December 1970.

[Traveling_Home]

54. You're right

I was running out the door when I saw the first post and should have taken more time. I do disagree about telling them before hand. I had lots of friends who were army draftees who told lots of tales before hand - they knew where they were headed. I also have friends (army, navy, air force) who waited until they got an assignment they didn't want and then looked for an out.

From your stories sounds like you might have done your time too. Appreciate your clearing that up.

[ck4829]

26. And the Republicans are going to go crazy over this

Just watch

[blm]

30. coke's addictive - acid is not. Bush did coke for years - Jack did acid 2x

So which one will get the hypocrites yakking?

[shanti]

29. an honorable man he is....it just goes to show

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[hippiechick]

32. Well let's see ... George was an alcoholic LESS than 35 years ago ...

... and wasn't his DUI (that disappeared) in the early 80's ?
So why should Mr Carter's career be torpedoed over 'youthful indiscretions' ?

Oh, wait ... I forgot - he's a Democrat. :eyes:


Fucking Republican Hypocrites. :mad:

[IntravenousDemilo]

33. The last five years have been like a really bad acid flashback...

...to the 1980s, or maybe even the 1880s.

[Toucano]

37. That's IT! It's OVER!

Let's all SHUN the man, after all this is America, right?

Scarlet letters, puritan principles and all that?

[0rganism]

42. Sad that this is even an issue

Unlike the lying, misdirecting shrub, this guy admits it, has apparently got on with his life, and done pretty well for himself.

So will the voters of Nevada give him a pass on the drug thing? They would if he were a republican. Maybe he should switch parties?

[stevedeshazer]

53. I think Nevadans on the whole are tolerant

:)

[MarsThe Cat]

45. when i hear "jack carter", i think of this guy-

and i'd figure him as more of a booze guy than a drug guy(maybe a little weed...a few bennies...)

[MADem]

48. To be honest, I do too

Showing my age, I guess!

[Dervill Crow]

50. That's who I thought of, too.

Not my idea of a heartthrob, but he looks really nice in that photo.

[MarsThe Cat]

51. and it's only one of FOUR available poses available...

autographed, no less...

http://www.autographedtoyou.com/Jack-Carter-picture.htm

[Voltaire99]

47. How to spin this one: "Under the influence of LSD, I saw Jesus Christ."

"And He told me, 'Jack, my lambsie pie, one day I want you to kick this terrible habit and run for the U.S. Senate."

[Delphinus]

52. Big whoop.

If we're going to exclude people because they do drugs, we're going to have a very narrow group to choose from.

And, frankly, I'm more inclined to vote for someone who has used drugs, than for someone who hasn't. But that's just me.

[stevedeshazer]

55. I'd rather vote for someone honest about it than

someone like you-know-who that lies about it.

[DrZeeLit]

56. I am soooo with you ... non story. n/t

[NVMojo]

57. Bush did coke, had a DUI, was AWOL, daddy bought his way out of

the Viet Nam and he's president so what's the big deal?? Faux News break!

[daleo]

58. If Bush gets a pass for everything before age 40

Then Jack Carter should get a pass for something that happened when he was 20. I mean, this is ludicrous.

[MADem]

62. Ya know, this is a BULLSHIT HEADLINE

What it really should say is SOME GOP ASSWIPE DUG THIS UP AND WANTS THIS NEWSPAPER TO SHILL THIS STORY FOR THEM.

Or, IN THE "THIS IS NOT NEWS" DEPARTMENT, CARTER ADMITTED, SOME THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO, THAT HE DID DRUGS AND WE ASKED HIM ABOUT IT JUST NOW.

The admission took place 35 years ago when he and 52 of his pals were busted by some NIS cretins (they used to love playing these games at the shore commands). He did an oral history at the JC Prez library about it, fachrissake!!!

The headline reads like some clever Jimmy Olson uncovered pictures of him in an Amsterdam coffeehouse last weekend!!!

[leesa]

65. So what? Completely harmless.