Pentagon Denies Talk With Troops Was Staged

[sabra]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172262,00.html

Pentagon Denies Talk With Troops Was Staged

WASHINGTON — Pentagon officials are denying that a live video conference between President Bush (search) and U.S. troops in Iraq was staged.

"On behalf of these fine young men and women, we certainly regret any perception that they were told what to say. It is not the case," said Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita.

...

"The soldiers were advised as to the issues they should expect to discuss, and decided among themselves who would speak to each issue as it may arise," Di Rita maintained.

...

Some senior Pentagon officials told FOX News that they are angry that soldiers were coached at all before the video conference went live

[tk2kewl]

1. It would be funny if it weren't so sad

Who are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes.

[converted_democrat]

12. Ain't that the truth.........n/t

[LetsGoMurphys]

16. Yeah they (Bush Admin) are so pathetic that its funny at first..

then you think about it and get depressed.

[ShockediSay]

60. audio of scripting session was broadcast on NPR yesterday (link)

audio of scripting session link is obtained through npr story link:

npr story link:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4957379


"On behalf of these fine young men and women, we certainly regret any perception that they were told what to say. It is not the case," said Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita.

So, are they shameless liars or incompetents?
ANS: All of the above, just like our present government.

[liberal N proud]

2. Then what did we all see on the news last night?

Was that fabricated just to discredit bu$h? Not that he has any credibility to start with.

It blows my mind when criminals are caught red handed and they bold face lie and deny.
:wtf:

[Hepburn]

3. Oh, bullshit! n/t

[yellowcanine]

4. "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?" Sorry Larry, but that

cat is over in the next county by now. You aren't going to get it back into the bag. Let's go to the videotape!

[gratuitous]

5. Lawrence Di Rita -- wouldn't you know?

Every word of that press release is a lie, including "and" and "the."

[Left Turn]

6. So I'm sure

If one of the troops had spoken out against how badly the war was going I'm sure that would have been A-OK with Bush then huh?

[underpants]

7. Bush Thanks Soldiers in Rehearsed Talk (ABC)

Bush Talks With Soldiers in Teleconference, an Event Choreographed to Match Iraq Policy Goals

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1212494

[Pachamama]

8. Why does the ole saying "Thou protesteth too much" come to mind?

:shrug:

[MsConduct]

9. Yeah, sure, you betcha. Like we're supposed to believe that

the man(?) who forbade pictures of the coffins of our fallen heroes to be shown on the news gives a flying fandango about the wounded. Yep, I'm that stupid...give me an f-ing break!

[LatinoSocialist]

10. um...we got the audio/video evidence, morons

we caught you red-handed...why are you trying to lie to us?

[underpants]

13. Who are you going to believe them or your lying eyes?

Welcome to DU. Yes it is amazing to watch them not only try to spin this but the MSM carrying their water when ANYONE COULD SEE THAT IT WAS SET UP and fake.

[MarsThe Cat]

27. they even showed them talking about his comments to one soldier-

about seeing her in New York, like it was an impromptu thing...

whatta buncha fucks.

[crossroads]

11. Yeah... right!

BS in caps...

:+

[Rex]

14. Wow, the Pentagon is now denying what everyone saw on TV.

There wasn't any question about it being staged, everyone excepts it as common knowledge now. Hey I know, let the Pentagon start an 'investigation' into why the MSM reported it as staged.

The military is a fucking joke now (thanks Repukes), I'm so happy I ETSd before all this Boosh crap!

[goforit]

28. Yep!!!......They are showing their ineptitude!!!

[Catfight]

15. Pentagon doing more damage control, it was staged, admit it and move on.

[usafguy99]

18. It's against their religious beliefs to admit to ever having done

anything wrong. It's amazing how little they think of the average American to tell them that kind of BS and expect them to believe it.

[Yossarian72]

17. Liar of the Week or is it Weak

Molly Ivins shows the "liar of the week" aka chickenhawk bushman claims 100 hundred Iraqi battalions are ready, then a week later it was 80, then General Casey, in front of Congress committee says, well, (you can see him struggling between a rock and hard place) it is 1, (ONE) battalion, (I saw the Casey testimony). see last para below.

Re the staged news conference, the grunts know what is going on and this will only sow disrespect for those officers. As a Vienam vet I can tell you morale will suffer from this, when will the fraggin begin?

AUSTIN, Texas -- On one of those television gong shows that passes for journalism, the panelists used to have to pick an Outrage of the Week. Then, each performer would wax indignant about his or choice for 60 seconds or so. If someone asked me to name the Outrage of the Week about now, I'd have a coronary. How could anyone possibly choose?

I suppose the frontrunner is the anti-torture amendment. Sen. John McCain proposed an amendment to the military appropriations bill that would prohibit "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment of prisoners in the custody of the U.S. military.

This may strike you as a "goes without saying" proposition -- the amendment passed the Senate 90 to nine. The United States has been signing anti-torture treaties under Democrats and Republicans for at least 50 years. But the Bush administration actually managed to find some weasel words to create a loophole in this longstanding commitment to civilized behavior.

According to the Bushies, if the United States is holding a prisoner on foreign soil, our soldiers can still subject him or her to cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment -- the very forms of torture used by the soldiers who were later prosecuted for their conduct at Abu Ghraib. Does this make any sense, moral or common?

So deeply does President Bush feel our country, despite all its treaty commitments, has a right to torture that he has threatened to veto the bill if it passes. This would the first time in five years he has ever vetoed anything. Think about it: Five years of stupefying pork, ideological nonsense, dumb administrative ideas, fiscal idiocy, misbegotten energy programs -- and the first thing the man vetoes is a bill to pay our soldiers because it carries an amendment saying, once again, that this country does not torture prisoners.

This is the United States of America. It is our country, not George W. Bush's personal property. The United States of America still stands for the rights of man, for freedom, dignity and justice. We do not torture helpless prisoners. Our soldiers are not the SS, not the North Vietnamese who tortured McCain and others for years on end, not bestial Argentinean fascists, not the Khmer Rouge.

Remember, we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein was such a horrible brute that he tortured people. This is beyond disgusting. The House Republicans, which have no shame, will try to weaken McCain's amendment. They need to hear from decent Republicans all over this country. Don't leave this hideous stain on your party's name. This is NOT what America stands for. We've had more loathsome and more dangerous enemies than Al-Qaida and managed to defeat them without resorting to torture.

And leading the charge in the House will be Tom DeLay, that pillar of moral rectitude and Christian mercy. Wait a minute: Didn't DeLay have to step down from his leadership position after he got indicted? Well, yes, but some step-downs are more down than others. There was The Hammer in full glory last Friday, twisting arms and working the floor on behalf of a real cutie of a bill to benefit the oil companies.

Even Republicans revolted. As Rep. Sherwood Boehlert said, "We are enriching people, but we are not doing anything to give the little guy a break." This bill was so awful the leadership had to hold the vote open for 40 minutes, a clear violation of House rules -- there's a five-minute limit on votes of this kind -- while the Republican leaders roamed the floor, cajoling, bullying and threatening.

I have become inured to Bush's idea of foreign policy, which is to tell the rest of the world, "Kiss my behind." But the policy does result in some lovely ironies. On Friday, Mohamed ElBaradei, the highly respected head of the United Nation's International Atomic Energy Agency, won the Nobel Peace Prize. Quite apart from whether you support George Bush or not, ElBaradei and the IAEA deserve the honor -- they have been both diligent and effective.

ElBaradei was right when he repeatedly warned the Bush administration Iraq did not have any weapons of mass destruction and has said the day the United States invaded "was the saddest in my life."

But you know our boy George: not for him the gracious, "Gee, you were right, and we wrong after all." Nope, after ElBaradei was proved right, Bush tried to have him fired. And the man in charge of carrying out the campaign to have the guy fired for being right? John Bolton, now our ambassador to the United Nations.

Liar of the week: George W. Bush said on his Saturday radio address a week and a half ago that Iraq has 100 battalions of battle-ready soldiers. By the time he got to his television address on Thursday, it was 80 battalions. (I guess it's worse to lie if they're taking pictures of you.) Unfortunately, the next day Gen. George Casey, who oversees U.S. forces in Iraq, said of those 80, the number of Iraqi battalions fit to fight independently of U.S. support had slipped from three to one. One, three, 80, 100 -- if this is Tuesday, it must be ...

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[UpInArms]

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[warrens]

20. Gee, was that WH flunky just making up the "script" she was talking about?

I was born at night. Just not LAST night. Morans.

[MADem]

21. What a blatant load of HORSESHIT!!!!!

How can they possibly DENY, with a straight face, that it was staged??

Here is a non-Faux article on the very same issue: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051013/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq_8

Do note the headline!!!

Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

"This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops...."I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.

A brief rehearsal ensued.

"OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"

"Captain Smith," Kennedy said....

Ya know, the last time I checked, a DEPUTY ASD is reasonably high up in the Pentagon food chain...we aren't talking about a fucking FILE CLERK here. It is inconceivable that Douchebag DeRita DID NOT KNOW what she was doing. I am of the mind that HE PERSONALLY VETTED the Q and A before they staged this poorly-conceived propaganda piece.

Sucks getting caught, eh???

[dapper]

22. Stupid is what stupid does.

Maybe they are making themselves look stupid on purpose.... oh hell, they'd be too stupid to do that.

[progressivebydesign]

23. "SCRIPTED" The woman from the Pentagon USED THE WORD.

Those liars can't keep track of their lies. Do they honestly think that no one HEARD the woman say "WHAT WE'VE SCRIPTED"???????

[truebrit71]

30. No kidding....Hell she even told the female officer how to breathe...

...she told her to take a pause after she said she was from NY, so that it appeared like Smirk was talking directly to her...

These guys obviously didn't see the MSM coverage, especially Keith Olbermans, showing CONCLUSIVELY that the whole thing was a set-up, from phoney beginning, to phoney end...

[sofa king]

24. Starting the Spin dance a little late, aren't they?

By now, everyone here is familiar with the Bush scandal sidestep:

D-Day: Scandalous and morally vacant move by the Bush Administration
D+1: Deny it happened.
D+2: Kill the messenger and assassinate the character of others involved.
D+3: Admit it may have happened, but castigate the liberal media for questioning Adminstration action in time of war.
D+4: Terra! Terra! Terra!
D+5: New scandal, wash, rinse, repeat.

However, the Administration is late out of the box. They're only in the denial stage, which means this incident is going to bleed over into next week unless they can compress the dance into one day.

Someone in the White House has an impressive list of things to do today:

1) Question the patriotism of people watching unedited satellite feeds;
2) Place a quiet admission of guilt somewhere to keep the lawyers happy;
3) Blow something up.

[arwalden]

25. Wheeeeeeee!

[TomClash]

26. The word is "PROPAGANDA" nt

[RedEarth]

29. Revisionist

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. pent. official: If the president goes off script. . .

and they wonder why people don't believe them any more?

During viet nam, I was 8-11 yrs old. I truly did not understand the reason for being there any more than I understood the reasons for the riots in Chicago. I did know, that once I heard the few prostesters on the air, they seemed to be convinced that they were right and that bad things were happening in Nam. Of course, the original Mayor Daley's english skills left much to be - well, lampooned.

For those slightly older, was there a similar PR spin, brain dead effort to stay on message?

I know there was no internet, but there was a thriving press, with aggressive, hungry and talented reporters, who searched out stories left and right. Was there as much spin and lying going on? Less? More? More or less the same?

[Voltaire99]

32. Isn't it bad enough to die for liars...

...without being made to utter their lies, too?

[VegasWolf]

33. Why deny, except out of sheer habit, it was all caught on camera. nt

[dkofos]

34. Do we have Mr. Di rita's e-mail addy

If so maybe we can send him the video.

He probably wouldn't believe it though.

[Rainscents]

35. My head is spinning!!!

Too many lies are coming my way too fast!!! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Catchawave]

36. Fox News: Pentagon Denies Talk With Troops Was Staged

Friday, October 14, 2005


WASHINGTON — Pentagon officials are denying that a live video conference between President Bush (search) and U.S. troops in Iraq was staged.

"On behalf of these fine young men and women, we certainly regret any perception that they were told what to say. It is not the case," said Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita.

A live feed of troops from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and an Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building in Washington from Tikrit Thursday to discuss the situation in Iraq with the president.

But some critics said the video conference was staged, referring to an on-camera shot of a Pentagon official shown coaching the soldiers.

"The soldiers were advised as to the issues they should expect to discuss, and decided among themselves who would speak to each issue as it may arise," Di Rita maintained.

Cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172262,00.html

[tuvor]

37. Psst...

Don't they know it's all on tape?

[texpatriot2004]

42. Right? Hello. It's on video and the whole world knows about it.

There was some paper in Japan writing about it for pete's sake.

They really should not deny things that are on tape. Really, is that their final answer?

[aquart]

38. Nicely parsed.

[Hobarticus]

39. Why can't Barber (woman on tape) deny it?

I guess that'd be flat-out lying. But that hasn't stopped them yet, either.

[Benhurst]

40. And God don't make little green apples, and it don't rain in

Indianapolis in the summertime.

[rosesaylavee]

41. Liars. Bold-faced, shameful LIARS.

So, we aren't supposed to believe our own eyes and ears, we need the Pentagon to interpret events for us? Bullshoy.

[ewagner]

43. To everything

spin, spin, spin....

there is a season

spin, spin, spin...

DiRita is the designated liar for the Pentagon.

hey DiRita...here's for you

[djeseru]

44. Yeah, yeah...

..."pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, with the script"...

We've already seen it fellas, duh...

[0007]

45. Tis all on the square!


The Hulk sez, nothing in the world is staged...
Tis all on the square!

[Debi]

50. Don't be dissin the Hulkster now! n/t

[justabob]

46. you believe your lying eyes?

Un-fucking-believable that they can say this stuff with a straight face.

[Avalux]

47. Deny Deny Deny.

I used to get so angry at Faux News but now I just laugh at their rediculousness. Their audience won't face the truth when it's right in front of them; they still continue to believe this garbage.

[madeline_con]

48. Of course they do.

[Debi]

49. We weren't PRACTICING, we were practicing...don't you see the difference

:eyes: stupid Democrats.....

[Dr Fate]

51. Brought to you by the makers of "WMDs" "Schivo", "Nagin Bus Lines"

and "Swift Boat Vets"...

[Divernan]

52. Who you goin to believe?The Pentagon PR flack or your lyin eyes & ears?

nt

[twaddler01]

53. no surprise...

moving on :eyes:

[marmar]

54. That's like the N.O. cops saying they didn't beat that old man down...

I guess we misinterpreted the video and that psycho woman coaching them. Puh-leaze!

:argh: :argh:
:nopity: :nopity:

[Parche]

55. Right

And Valentines day is on February 30th next year 2006

[Catchawave]

56. News Hounds already has this up :)

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/10/14/antimilitary_probush_spin_on_fnl.php

October 14, 2005
Anti-Military, Pro-Bush Spin on FNL
Today (10/14) was a fortunately/unfortunately day for me monitoring FNL. Fortunately, the noon hour, anchored by Bill Hemmer, included some actual hard news (Greg Palkot in Pakistan on the aftermath of the earthquake there). Unfortunately, it also included some real fluff (an ALERT to announce that a middle school in Miami FL had been evacuated, immediately followed by another ALERT to report that the evacuatio had been "downgraded" & only 5 people were affected). Fortunately, the fluff level continues to decrease as compared to what they used to dump on Rick Folbaum when he covered Fridays for David Asman. Unfortunately, there was also the usual spin ("fallout at the Pentaagon" over Bush's teleconference with soldiers). The spin was the most interesting, because in order to make it pro-Bush, they had to bash the Pentagon &, indirectly, the US troops forced to participate in Bush's latest PR stunt.

Here's the spin:

(at link)

[against all enemies]

57. If the Titanic was a Republican ship Fox would report it didn't hit an ice

Also the Captain was doing a fine job. And the water coming through the hull was planned for the indoor pool. Fair and Balanced.

[HereSince1628]

58. I love to watch a serious spin effort. There is so much to

laugh at!

As republicans would say, Public opinion cannot be allow the data speak for itself

[Zynx]

59. Uhhh huhhhh....Yeah. And I'm William Henry Harrison. n/t

[Giant Robot]

61. Of course it wasn't staged!!

Are you saying that our President would not want to face our troops stationed in that festering quagmire of death and corruption known as Iraq and be held accountable for the decisions he has made that have so utterly changed their lives forever?

And why do you hate America?

[lebkuchen]

62. Stripes: Pentagon dismisses claims it coached GIs for talk with Bush

Pentagon officials on Friday dismissed accusations that soldiers were coached and coerced before a nationally televised event with the president on Thursday.

Ten soldiers from the Army National Guard’s 42nd Infantry Division and an Iraqi soldier, all stationed in Tikrit, Iraq, joined President Bush in a video teleconference for the event, billed as a conversation between the commander-in-chief and troops in the combat zone.

But about 30 minutes before the event began news outlets picked up a video feed of Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Allison Barber speaking with the group about what to expect during the event, who should speak when, and how to deal with some questions posed by the president.

At one point, she advised the soldiers on who should take the microphone, “if he (Bush) gives us a question that’s not something that he has scripted.”

During the event the soldiers offered an upbeat assessment of the conflict in Iraq and of security forces preparations for this weekend’s vote.

U.S. news outlets seized on the story Thursday night, and members of the White House press corps questioned whether the event was rehearsed.


http://stripes.com/article.asp?article=32264

[oregonindy]

64. they dont have to coach them...they're frickin ringers!

professional neo-con mouth pieces in uniform its their job.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5065908&mesg_id=5065908

[lebkuchen]

65. How 'bout that.

See my posts, of yesterday. :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5053975&mesg_id=5058263

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5053975&mesg_id=5058326

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2157132&mesg_id=2157138

[pinniped]

63. These losers can't explain the phony al-Qaeda either.

Maybe they should get their stories staright with the Pentagon.

[Vinca]

66. Not staged? Any of these "good folks" own one of them there

talking boxes called a "teevee?" THE REHEARSAL WAS BROADCAST . . . MORANS!

[ElectroPrincess]

73. You must cut the Pentagon some slack ... Not!

Please recall the fact that when "Darth" Rumsfeld and his Neo-Conservative civilian cronies took over DA PLACE (The Pentagon), the most intelligent and moral General Officers were pushed to the sidelines and *encouraged* to resign.

These EVIL Neo-Cons in our Executive Branch have only spring-butt General Officers in the Pentagon as well as that crony POS Porter Goss running every little detail within the CIA.

It should come as NO surprise that the CREDIBLE and truly talented Intelligence Officers and Agents in the Pentagon and CIA are GONE?

Negroponte and Rumsfeld, et. al. have been successful at "dumbing down" the ENTIRE USA Intelligence Community with the possible exception of those within the NSA.

Our youth in the Active Duty Military are paying a "far too high" price for the arrogance and ineptitude of Bush's cronies and other Political Monsters who have been emplaced at high places.

The responsibility should start at the TOP of the Military and Civilian Food Chain. The truly egregious War Crimes have been years in planning ... it has only been in the past few years that the fruition of PNAC's Master Plan (a la Dr. Strangelove paranoia) has been *sucked into the intake.*

Shame on the Pentagon for such blatant lies and disinformation! Is it now any wonder when all the honorable Military members have either resigned and/or retired?

[truthisfreedom]

67. i don't get it! they have every opportunity to allow this to be a natural

interaction, which would be warm and cordial and give the pres a chance to seem human, and they're so scared that they manipulate it to death and end up with this debacle instead.

what the hell are these people thinking? is rove still suffering from kidney stones and, as a result, still doped up on class c narcotics?

[lebkuchen]

68. beats me

Bush has lost a lot of military support in the last five years, but after this stunt, he'll lose everyone but the diehards.

[BronxBoy]

69. LOL

Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes
-Richard Pryor


:rofl:

[sendero]

70. "Pentagon denies"..

... has become the most common preamble to a lie in America.

[0007]

71. Where do you work? The Pentagon.....

What do you do there? Not much!

[henslee]

72. Allison Barber should resign because of STAGED-GATE.

Plain and simple.

[ElectroPrincess]

74. She will most likely score a promotion -That's how it works in BushWorld.

:puke: