Idaho senator (Larry Craig - R) says fraud part of La. culture

[stevedeshazer]

WASHINGTON -- A U.S. senator from Idaho is the latest to slam Louisiana's reputation for political corruption as Congress considers whether to spend billions of dollars on hurricane recovery.

Sen. Larry Craig, a Republican, told his home state constituents that fraud is as much a part of the fabric of Louisiana as it is in Iraq and that flooded sections of New Orleans should be abandoned.

"Fraud is in the culture of Iraqis. I believe that is true in the state of Louisiana as well," Craig was quoted as saying Thursday in the Lewiston (Idaho) Morning Tribune.

The McCall (Idaho) Star News, quoted him saying "Louisiana and New Orleans are the most corrupt governments in our country and they always have been. . . . A rookie cop in New Orleans, they pay him or her $17,000 starting pay and then wink and say you better make the rest of it on the street."

more at link:

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/washington/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1129358563274730.xml
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[musette_sf]

1. Yeah well,

"Racism is in the culture of Nazi Germans. I believe that is true in the state of Idaho as well," I am quoted as saying right frickin' now.

No offense to blue Ida-Hos, but geez, it sure does attract the RAHOWA types.

[Joy Anne]

6. vocabulary

Thanks! I learned a new word today.

[musette_sf]

7. was it

Ida-Ho

or RAHOWA?

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[Joy Anne]

21. Rahowa

had to look it up

[pitohui]

25. you go, musette!

best. post. ever.

[ecoflame]

30. Speaking of racism...

some of the most racist statements I've heard lately are from people moving here from California....talking about they don't want to be around "those gawddamned Mexicans anymore." And they move here!? Spack dab in the midst of a considerable Hispanic population. Oh -- too late now.

[jus_the_facts]

2. FRAUD....IT'S PART OF ALL CULTURE'S....ASSCLOWN...

[blm]

37. GEE...Has he said ANYTHING about Ohio?

.

[Rose Siding]

3. Craig knows all about corruption

Larry Craig
Here's one more example of how Republican warmongers support the war, but don't support the troops. Senator Larry Craig of Idaho has blocked the promotions of 850 officers in the U.S. Air Force. According to the New York Times, the promotions were denied to officers at all levels, including young pilots who fought in Iraq and even a general. So what, exactly, did these officers do to deserve such treatment? Absolutely nothing. You see, Senator Craig is having a hissy fit because the Air Force won't station four cargo planes at an Air National Guard base in Boise. Apparently, Craig thought that "supporting the troops" included "using them as pawns in petty power trips." Blackmail: it's the Republican way.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/03/114.html

[BikeWriter]

5. GMTA

[stevedeshazer]

8. I remember that

Furthermore, I think Craig's comments are in the same league with Bill Bennett's. There won't be the same scrutiny because Larry Craig is a nobody. Hard to be that and a US Senator at the same time. It's hard work!

[BikeWriter]

4. Sounds like he knows a lot about corruption!

[wakeme2008]

9. I hate to say it but he is right on the corrupt governments in La.

For example....

Only in La would the Gov. go to Nevada to gamble and walk away from the blackjack table with something like $400,000 in "winnings" and then pick the owners of the casino to run the only NOLA casino.

and the winner of any election is based on not the number of living voters that vote for you but the number of dead ones. :evilgrin:

But Craig is still a slime ball.

[LA lady]

34. La. Politics

Heck, our politics have always been crooked. Think of all the movies made about LA politics. And our ex Gov is in prison. It seems accepted here!

[blm]

38. And did he weigh in on OHIO?

.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

40. ..........there's a STATE called WASHINGTON D.C-(District of Corruption)

I hear the corruption in D.C is very silent but runs deep

[hopein08]

10. Isn't Idaho one of the key locations for the right wing...

white supremacists, gun-hoarding groups that really should be considered TERRORISTS?

Besides, with his little rant about the rookie cops $17,000 pay and the "wink and a nod" to make the rest on the street...who here thinks that he gets his $160,000 odd Senate salary and makes oodles more on K STREET?

[MrBenchley]

17. Yup...and this racist fuckwit Craig

is on the board of the National Rifle Association...

He's mentioned prominently in this description of the lunatic fringe...

http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/issue19/worces19.htm

[hopein08]

18. Thanks for the link...

it was very interesting (read "scary").

And I love your FDR quote!

[MrBenchley]

19. Thanks...

Craig and nutso Helen Chenoweth used to be called the Black Helicopter Caucus.

[BOSSHOG]

11. As Senator Mary Landrieu so aptly put it

If conservatives want to clean up corruption (and fraud) they should disband the republican party.

[hopein08]

13. Did she really say that??!!! I missed it!

That is 100% perfectly put!

[BOSSHOG]

35. A few weeks ago

when the same subject came up. It was a remark she made after her filibuster to get funding for the region.

[BOSSHOG]

36. A few weeks ago

when the same subject came up. It was a remark she made after her filibuster to get funding for the region.

[...of J.Temperance]

15. I think Senator Landrieu's so fab

She always points out the hypocrisy of the Republican's, it's just a shame that more people don't listen to what she's saying.

I'm fine with the corruption in Louisiana politics, because at least the Louisiana politicians are helping out the poor and vulnerable and doing right by them...unlike the GOP who if they could get away with it would just have them all gassed and burnt.

As long as the people get a chicken in every pot each week, they'll overlook that their politicians are taking money under the table.

At least over 100,000 people haven't died because of Louisiana's corruption...unlike the over 100,000 people who HAVE died because of the GOP's corruption AND lies - September 11, Afghanistan and Iraq death tolls.

[struggle4progress]

46. Louisiana's Sen. Landrieu responds to Craig

<snip> Sen. Mary Landrieu, a Democrat, says Louisiana deserves better than "old stereotypes and ignorant remarks." <snip>

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/101505ccjrktvblandrieu.fa16985e.html

[stray cat]

12. Its also a huge part of the culture of this administration

[Name removed]

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[stevedeshazer]

20. Not everyone there is a nut

Writing off Western and Southern states over the last 30 years is how the Dems got into this pickle in the first place.

I'm in liberal Portland, by the way, home of Volksfront.

I like Idaho, they deserve better than this. My future son-in-law is from Boise, he and his friends and family are liberal.

You're right about the Aryan Nations, they're up in the Panhandle.

[astroBspacedog]

26. No, -The Aryan Nations Are Not Here

They were sued and forced to sell their compound in Hayden Lake and disband about five years ago.
I live in Blaine County, we're blue here. But Idaho still continues to elect Larry Craig, ---- and Larry Craig is still a prodigious asshole.

[stevedeshazer]

33. You're right, sorry I forgot about that

They did get run out. :)

Blaine County is a beautiful place, too.

ON EDIT

Link to the Southern Poverty Law Center about white supremacists in Idaho, and how they were run out:

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=88

Aryans, Interrupted
The Aryan Nations, long a top neo-Nazi group, is homeless, split, accused of blackmail, and in jeopardy of irrelevance.

Last October, leaders of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations, the famous Idaho hate group whose founder was forced to sell its headquarters compound after being ordered to pay millions of dollars in damages, announced that they were about to release a brand new videotape.

The title of their new film? "Out of the Ashes."

It was an upbeat name, to be sure. But six months after the announcement by Harold Ray Redfeairn and August Kreis, there is no videotape. The audiotape that was supposed to accompany it hasn't been produced, either.

In fact, the hoped-for renaissance of the group whose members rained death and destruction on northern Idaho for more than a quarter of a century seems more dubious than ever.

The compound that long served as the group's home is gone, sold off to satisfy creditors in a lawsuit.

[bluestateguy]

31. You're right, just a majority

The surveyusa poll shows Idaho has the state where Baby Bush has some of his highest ratings (57%).

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=ad81c019-5ada-4ca3-b466-43b007c7e867

So indeed, they're not all nutty people, just a majority of them.

[ecoflame]

29. I always find it interesting how little others

know about states from which they're not from nor have visited and yet gulp the bullshit crap spewed from the MSM regarding anything and anyone.

Like someone above said, The Aryan Nations hasn't been since losing a court battle along with their property. Goggle it; I'm tired of pointing it out.

Idaho is just flyover territory to me. The Democratic Party should be very honest and admit that it has nothing to say and nothing to offer to the state of Idaho.

This is no different from statements I've read at the freeper's site.

As far as racism....racism is part of this COUNTRY's culture.

When the democrats can show how they will benefit those who work their asses off for a living, then we'll win them over. The likes of Craig & Butch Otter win here because of other issues: right to privacy - invasion from 'big gov't', financial conservatism (which most people attempt to practice as it's called living within your means). People move here thinking they'll be safe from whatever they left not realizing they're part of the problem to begin with.

[stevedeshazer]

45. I agree completely

And I remember a time not so long ago when Idaho offered up some great progressive politicians such as Frank Church and Cecil Andrus.

[IDemo]

32. Human Rights organizations are more active here than the racists:

http://www.humanrightsidaho.org/

http://www.idahohumanrights.org/

"The Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations was founded in 1981 as a response group against the harassment and criminal activities of the Aryan white supremacy movement located north of Hayden Lake, a community in Kootenai County, Idaho. The Task Force has been instrumental in directing the passage of major Idaho legislation giving the state strong laws against harassment."

http://www.idptv.state.id.us/outreach/diversity/idhrfacts.html

"Idaho's anti-malicious harassment laws are recognized as some of the toughest in the nation. Various officials have been invited by communities throughout the U.S. to help train others about Idaho's "zero tolerance" methods for dealing with extremist behavior.
The Idaho Human Rights Commission was created in 1969. Today, Idaho has 114 human rights groups located in 25 cities throughout the state. These groups far outnumber extremist groups and provide local communities with information about discrimination and the law as well as technical assistance to help parties resolve disputes peacefully."

http://www.cityofboise.org/parks/parks_facilities/parks/index.aspx?id=afhrm_park_facts

http://www.keokee.com/bchrtforg/

Based in Sandpoint, Idaho

- Human Rights Task Force Creed -

"We believe in the inviolable dignity of each human being.
We oppose discrimination, segregation, intimidation, harassment, physical harm, or the denial of equal protection in any form based upon race, color, gender, sexual orientation, or religion.
We promote interracial and intercultural understanding; we promote racial and ethnic harmony.
We encourage parents and educators to teach fairness, justice, and equality; we encourage everyone to live these ideals."

[indepat]

16. Is the fraud emanating in D.C. not large enough to dwarf all others?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Fraud is at the root of the Culture of Corruption and Cronyism in Wash. DC

[shance]

23. "White Aryan Supremecy is in my culture and my genes. I am a racist

homophobe pig, I think white wealthy males should run the plantation, and anyone who is not white and making a good living is irrelevant to me. Oh and those Iraqis, there all a bunch of savages. Ive never met one, but I know its true."

- Accurate interpretation of Larry Craig's statement

[pitohui]

24. what a horse's ass

i would like proof of larry craig's lies, i doubt he has ever spoken to or met even one officer of n.o.p.d. or has the slightest proof whatever of his allegation

he pulled it out of his ass because he's a bigot who is afraid a black child might accidentally get a dollar

my proof for my statement is better or equally as good as craig's proof of his statement

[astroBspacedog]

27. Larry Craig Was Raised On a Pig Farm!

This is true. A friend of mine attended a barbecue where Senator Craig actually won a pig calling contest.
Maybe this might explain some of his strange behavior.

[Pharlo]

44. Nah, being raised on a pig farm would have nothing to do with it....

I've encountered a lot of four legged pigs in my life, and there wasn't ONE of them insane enough to support a Republican - a rather non-political species all around. I think it's the human company he's been keeping. Spend enough time immersing oneself in a belief system, and thoses neo-con nannites invade your brain and you're a goner...........But it ain't the pigs' fault.

[oregonindy]

28. it takes fraud to know fraud. :P

[ecoflame]

39. Here's a portal of blogs,

Northwest blogs, specifically this one 43rd State Blues for those interested.

[JackDragna]

41. As a Louisianan, I cannot begin to say how angry I am.

There's corruption everywhere. Some places, it's worse, but there are people here who badly need help, who are good, decent people. The Republicans are merely using this as an excuse to screw a state that has no electoral votes and is against their conservative philosophy of how to live one's life. Other states never have to beg for money.

It's bad enough that I am seriously considering leaving the country.

[Erika]

42. Larry Craig is leading the way to Idaho becoming a third world

He's an ag/corporatist who favors open immigration for his big business donors against the will of the Idaho people.

He is likely also a closet gay. He married his wife Suzanne after a WH gay scandal. She had children. They have none together. He's one cold fish.

[Whoa_Nelly]

43. Craig is a sociopath, not unlike someone we all love to hate...read here

Craig is a power hungry arrogant asswipe sociopath:

Senator Frees Some USAF Promotions

June 12, 2003

<snip>
Craig put the holds on the Air Force promotions nearly three weeks ago and vowed to stall them until the Air Force honors a commitment to add four C-130 transport planes to complete a squadron at Gowen Air National Guard Base in Boise.

<snip>
Even officials in Idaho are puzzled by Craig's actions; the cargo planes have not been a major issue there.

"It's not something people here are tapping their fingers over, waiting for them to show up," Lt. Col. Tim Marsano, a spokesman for the Idaho National Guard, told the Times.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/09/politics/main557699.shtml

AND

How about this...like this bill is FOR American citizens...it's for the neocons...makesw me wonder what Craig is after in the long run re: politics

Helms-Craig Bill Protects US Citizens From International Court

<snip>
This bill protects all American citizens as well as all American citizens from indictment, prosecution or extradition by an international criminal court. Craig says this bill is necessary, because even if the United States does not ratify the treaty, it could fall under the jurisdiction of the ICC. Craig says the court represents the largest power grab made by the United Nations in years. ADM's generous spreading of financial manure has, in fact, proven to be the best investment in town. The government's ethanol subsidy -- of which ADM is the single largest recipient -- is estimated to have cost the taxpayer $7 billion so far. And now, three top ADM executives have been found guilty of defrauding the consumer as well.
http://www.senate.gov/~craig/releases/pr110201a.htm

AND

here take a look at his stand on previous major issues:

<snip>
Voted NO on banning chemical weapons.

Approval of the chemical weapons ban.
Status: Resolution of Ratification Agreed to Y)74; N)26
Reference: Resolution of ratification of the Chemical (Comprehensive) Weapons (Convention) Ban; Bill S. Res. 75 ; vote number 1997-51 on Apr 24, 1997

Voted YES on considering deploying NMD, and amending ABM Treaty.

Vote to consider establishing a policy requiring the deployment of a national missile defense system by the end of 2003. The bill would also urge discussions with Russia to amend the ABM Treaty to allow deployment of the system.
Bill S 1635 ; vote number 1996-157 on Jun 4, 1996
http://www.issues2000.org/International/Larry_Craig_Homeland_Security.htm