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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:46 PM
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Cowboy George hailed as the Reagan for ’08 (George Allen)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1827548,00.html


The Sunday Times October 16, 2005

Cowboy George hailed as the Reagan for ’08
Sarah Baxter, Washington


A TOBACCO chewing, horse-riding, cowboy boot wearing politician called George could be the Republican party’s choice for president in 2008.

With George W Bush in political freefall, speculation is intensifying about his successor. The rising star among conservatives is George Allen, senator for Virginia and former governor of the state.

<snip>

Sean Hannity, an influential right-wing radio and television host, has been boosting Allen’s prospects by comparing him with Ronald Reagan, a friend of Allen’s father, and declaring him capable of winning every state in the South against Hillary Clinton, the Democrat favourite.

Washington movers and shakers are also talking him up. “He knows why he wants to be president and can convey that to the voters,” said one leading analyst. The 53-year-old senator has already topped a poll of “congressional and political insiders” in the magazine National Journal as the most likely Republican candidate.

<snip>
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:47 PM
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1. I'm sick of Reagans.
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:48 PM
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4. Brace yourself for yet another idiot
Republican being president.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:48 PM
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5. Reagan was baaaaaaaaaaad
medicine for U.S. Why he is so revered is beyond me. He was a criminal too...
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:48 PM
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2. Oh just what America wants! Another
*&*(&^^&&#@#%% cowboy even if this one's for real!

yuck...on him and on Hillary. Who the f says she's the Dem favorite????????????????????
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:04 PM
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8. Allen is another FAKE cowboy.
He's from inside the beltway in Northern Virginia. His Dad was a highly paid NFL coach.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:46 PM
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12. Allen is actually from Southern California.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 07:02 PM by LibDemAlways
He was born in Whittier in 1952 and was in my high school class in Palos Verdes from 1966-1970 where he was varsity quarterback, a member of the "falconry" club (along with convicted spy Daulton Lee of "The Falcon and the Snowman"), and a complete racist asshole. His most remembered contribution to the school was spraypainting racist anti-white graffiti in an effort to stir up hatred toward black kids from a rival school. He was caught and had to publically apologize.

More recently, Allen has been known to display a noose in his law office and a Confederate flag on his living room wall. Apparently old prejudices dies hard.

I have been in touch with a Virginia-based reporter who is putting together an in-depth look at Allen's past. I've provided him with old photos and the names of classmates and school personnel who will paint a very unflattering portrait.

The reporter informs me that Allen's "people" don't think his racist past will be a problem, but he (the reporter) thinks otherwise.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:00 PM
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17. Ahhh, Whittier - isn't that where tricky dick was
born?

sorry sean - we don't need no more rayguns one was enough thank you. Nor do we need yet another lightweight puppet yanked around by the neo-kon kriminal kabal.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:22 PM
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18. Are you serious?
Small world. :wow:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:38 PM
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27. All true....completely serious.
.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:27 PM
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19. Well, Saint Dumbyass is actually from CT, but that didn't stop
the "cowboy" thing.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:37 PM
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21. Does anyone think that all Bush 2004 voters would vote for him?
Edited on Sat Oct-15-05 07:37 PM by skipos
Keep in mind that not all Bush voters are rabid republicans.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:43 PM
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28. they won't even respond. They'll just yammer on about Byrd
I can see Coulter, Malkin, and all the Fox filth squawking about it nonstop come 2007.

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 10:50 PM
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34. Is he skeered of horses or
try to milk 'em? :rofl:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:48 PM
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3. And Christopher Columbus discovered America.
Who cares!

Time will sort out the truth, even if it takes two centuries. At least we know.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 05:56 PM
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6. Uninformed, another Bush light.
George Allen is a very, very lightweight.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:13 PM
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26. A dumbshit, also.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:02 PM
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7. This guy seems humourless and with even less personality.
If he's matched against someone eloquent, I don't see him going anywhere. And by then, I imagine our country will be bloody sick of repugs anyway. I know I am!
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:22 PM
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9. the Democrat favourite.
Why is Hillary being dubbed "the Democrat favourite." Is that just what Sean Hannity is saying?
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:50 AM
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43. The radical right keeps on calling Hillary the favorite
in order to stir up hatred early for her, just in case she does run. The biggest nightmare of the right is Hillary winning the Presidency, and they know she'd beat any candidate they put up.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:25 PM
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10. Why the fuck do they do this
I don't have anything against cowboys but I'm sure sick of seeing dipshits like this paraded to the front and portrayed as cowboys. At least Reagan knew how to ride a horse and had a ranch that was really a ranch. Jesus effing christ this guy Allen is dumber than a quarry full of rocks and they think he can convey to the voters why he wants to be pres. WTF is he gonna promise? More of what Bush is doing? A change in direction more to the right? If the repubs are dumb enough to nominate this cretin not even Diebold can save the 2008 election for them - that is unless the dems nominate someone even worse and I'm not holding my breath. Maybe I can run - I can ride a horse and I used to rope the neighbors cows when I was a kid until he threatened to kick the shit out of me.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:50 PM
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15. Reagan wasn't a rancher. He was an actor who played one
on TV and during elections. Like * is a non-actor who plays one. The biggest difference, Reagan was acting, while * is playing.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:59 PM
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16. Reagan actually had a ranch
I recall when he was governor of California he paid no state taxes, because he had "lost so much money on his cattle".
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:27 PM
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32. That would make it a tax write off, not a ranch.
It was a hobby farm, nothing more. It might have had a few more props than *s pig farm, but it was never intended to be a working ranch. He went straight from being an actor to being a politician -- when did he ever have time to become a rancher?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:37 PM
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11. So how electable do you think this guy is?
considering the millions of votes that Bush got? I don't know anything about him.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:48 PM
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13. See my post number 12 for
some background.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 06:49 PM
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14. Dumber than dumb
Seriously. *George W. Bush is way smarter than George Allen. Just listen to him sometime.

His dad was coach of the Washington <sic> Redskins. Another "Fortunate Son".

Read this article from last May and you'll see what a blockhead this guy is:

<snip>

A Tough Question for George Allen

All the attention in the Bolton hearings has focused on the "conscience caucus" of Voinovich, Chafee, Hagel and Murkowski, and on Lugar. But this is also a chance to see some other senators in action, like Norm Coleman of Minnesota and George Allen of Virginia, who has been identified by National Journal as the top pick for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination.

Neither one of these characters rises to even the middle tier of mediocrity, but there's something fascinating about Allen: He does not speak English. I mean that almost literally, in that he does not construct sentences made up of commonplace English words. Rather, he speaks entirely in a patois constructed of football metaphors. Absolutely everything is second down or third down, or five yards or ten yards or a Hail Mary. If you were unfamiliar with the basic jargon of American football (as many people are), his every word would be incomprehensible. His official photo on his web site has him holding a football. Try going through a day using a football (or baseball or basketball) metaphor for every conversation, and you get a sense of what it would be like to be George Allen.

more: http://markschmitt.typepad.com/decembrist/2005/05/a_tough_questio.html



Does anyone think this idiot can be President?

Oh wait...never mind. :nuke:
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:38 PM
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22.  I believe that's a real horse he's riding but.....
He looks more like a kid on a dime store mechanical horse ride than a real cowboy.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:57 PM
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30. Then you might recognize this guy :)


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:32 AM
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36. That is actually a GOOD picture of the dolt
In real life, he looks like a fat Howdy Doody....



With about the same amount of brain matter between the ears, as well.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:32 PM
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20. How could things get worse? Elect allen for president.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 07:53 PM
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23. I hate to say it, but
I think a lot of people would vote for Allen. The Christian Coalition would definitely back him.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:06 PM
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24. this guy is horrible and would be worse than *
he did not allow mortgages for any couples not married while he was governor

this is a right of the right wing nuts - you thought we were far right now - this would be worse
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:11 PM
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25. Allen: Dumb son of a Redskins coach ( I wish they'd change that team name)
His name got him elected. Coach George Allen. The dumbsters love that shit.

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 08:47 PM
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29. That seems to be the only thing this guy has going for him
George IV
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:03 PM
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31. Joke is on you, Sen Allen. The only folks looking for a New Reagan
are the most die hard republicans. The folks who elected him (swing voters) have been busy getting disgusted by your party's actions - and due to the many lies by Bushco AND the GOP congress - are now cynical of "packaging" ala Reagan. THat is so 2003-4.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 09:32 PM
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33. GOP! Can you please stop running idiots and criminals?? Reagan was brain
dead and ordered the deaths of many, thousands of people for no apparent reason. I am sure he is burning in your hell as we speak.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 11:25 PM
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35. NH Union Leader: Senator from Va. impresses NH Republicans
http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=61881


Senator from Va. impresses NH Republicans
By SON HOANG
Sunday News Correspondent

NASHUA — U.S. Sen. George Allen of Virginia wowed New Hampshire Republicans yesterday morning while discussing issues important to him at a private fundraiser breakfast at the Seedling Cafe.

<snip>

Allen, who described himself as a "common-sense Jeffersonian conservative who trusts free people and free enterprise," is a former Virginia governor who is running for reelection to the Senate next year.

The Oracle PAC invited him to speak at the breakfast. Oracle, a software supplier with its East Coast headquarters in Virginia, has a facility in Nashua that employs 500 people.

Robert Hoffman, Oracle director of legislative affairs, credited Allen with helping bring Oracle to Virginia and creating jobs. "Sen. Allen is a friend of the tech industry," Hoffman said.

<snip>
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:54 AM
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37. This shithead nearly destroyed Va
And his successor Gilmore tried to drive the final nail in the coffin.

Sure we are a red state but before Allen came along a Va Republican wasn't really that bad a thing compared to now anyway. He was the first of the Christian Coalition uber-rightwing, small government variety Republicans to hold a statewide office. He gutted VDOT and outsourced all their engineering jobs that ended up costing the state billions. He said that state jobs shouldn't be a carreer which was a slap in the face to all state employees. (My Mom was one of those). He gave the smallest if any pay raises in history to state workers since he had such a disdain for them he didn't believe they should be fairly compensated.

Worst. Governor. Ever. The thought of him as president makes my stomach turn.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 03:53 AM
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38. Where the hell are the northern candidates?
Nothing against the south (I lived there most of my life) or the midwest, but it almost seems people are afraid of Northern presidential candidates. In the last few elections, most of the candidates were from the south (Clinton, Gore, *) or the midwest (Dole) while only Kerry was from parts elsewhere.

Particularly in recent times, there seems to be an insistence on candidates from the "heartland" or Dixie. How about a candidate from New York, California, etc.? FDR was from NY, JFK was from Massachusetts... hell, even Republicans came from the coasts (Nixon, Reagan).
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:05 AM
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39. That's the strangle hold the "Religious Right" has on
the minds of people. They have successfully created an image of us Northerners as heathens. Their so called "moral values" issue. Yes, they started with this about 20 years ago but with this administration has reached new heights. Who would have thought that the overwhelming qualification of any political candidate would be how religious or WHAT (Fundie Christian, of course) religion they are?

To me it is far more important how much a person cares and helps people less fortunate than it is for them to read or quote the Bible.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:20 AM
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41. I hope Republicans nominate someone from a deep red state but
we need to nominate someone from a barely red state so we can win it. Most Presidential candidates win their homestate, wether or not they lose the election. Gore was the only exception in the last couple decades. I think the homestate rule adds to the appeal of Clark, Warner and Vilsack.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:11 AM
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40. "Hillary Clinton, the Democrat favourite"?
I think there would be a wee bit of debate about this point.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:36 AM
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42. If they want a COWBOY as President, let's give them a REAL cowboy.
Governor Brian Schweitzer, Democrat, of Montana.

As for me, if a man is going to ride a horse, I want that man to look like he knows WTF he's doing. Gov. Schweitzer is a natural. He hunts, too, for all those red-blooded gun-lovin' hunters out there.

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