US bombs Iraq city amid fighting, 25 dead: doctor

[ECH1969]

Oct 16, 2005 — RAMADI, Iraq (Reuters) - Heavy fighting broke out in Ramadi, a rebellious city west of Baghdad, on Sunday and U.S. planes bombed areas in the east of the city, killing 25 people, residents and a local doctor said.

The U.S. military said it had no immediate information on any operations or clashes in the area.

Doctor Bassem al-Dulaimi at Ramadi hospital said he had received 25 dead and eight wounded and said relatives had told him the victims had been hit in aerial bombardments.

Residents reported heavy gunfire and clashes in central and eastern parts of the city.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1220816

[IndianaGreen]

1. Reuters: "a rebellious city west of Baghdad"

The US are the evil foreign occupier that is still bombing and shelling cities and villages, and all that Reuters has to say is to refer to Ramadi as a "rebellious city" and give credibility to a military PR non-denial denial over that of a doctor that witnessed the wounded brought to the hospital.

Why ask the liars in the US military when they don't bother to keep count of civilian casualties?

[tatertop]

2. We kill them in cold blood and they fight back

I guess that is what makes them a rebellious city.

[IndianaGreen]

3. Pinter: We have brought torture and misery in the name of freedom

Here is a very good piece by Harold Pinter, winner of the 2005 Nobel Prize for literature, that was posted in progressive websites:

Pinter: We have brought torture and misery in the name of freedom

By Harold Pinter who yesterday won the Nobel Prize for Literature

Published: 14 October 2005

The great poet Wilfred Owen articulated the tragedy, the horror - and indeed the pity - of war in a way no other poet has. Yet we have learnt nothing. Nearly 100 years after his death the world has become more savage, more brutal, more pitiless.

But the "free world" we are told, as embodied in the United States and Great Britain, is different to the rest of the world since our actions are dictated and sanctioned by a moral authority and a moral passion condoned by someone called God. Some people may find this difficult to comprehend but Osama Bin Laden finds it easy.

What would Wilfred Owen make of the invasion of Iraq? A bandit act, an act of blatant state terrorism, demonstrating absolute contempt for the concept of International Law. An arbitrary military action inspired by a series of lies upon lies and gross manipulation of the media and therefore of the public. An act intended to consolidate American military and economic control of the Middle East masquerading - as a last resort (all other justifications having failed to justify themselves) - as liberation. A formidable assertion of military force responsible for the death and mutilation of thousands upon thousands of innocent people.

An independent and totally objective account of the Iraqi civilian dead in the medical magazine The Lancet estimates that the figure approaches 100,000. But neither the US or the UK bother to count the Iraqi dead. As General Tommy Franks of US Central Command memorably said: "We don't do body counts".

We have brought torture, cluster bombs, depleted uranium, innumerable acts of random murder, misery and degradation to the Iraqi people and call it " bringing freedom and democracy to the Middle East". But, as we all know, we have not been welcomed with the predicted flowers. What we have unleashed is a ferocious and unremitting resistance, mayhem and chaos.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article319540.ece

[tatertop]

4. powerful

[leftchick]

5. this is so perfect IG

Explains the occupation in stark and true words. Thank you.

[Voltaire99]

7. Here's Wilfred Owen

...whom Pinter so justly venerates. There are other fine poems by Owen, but none finer.


Dulce Et Decorum Est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!-An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

(1917)

[WhiteTara]

9. RIP Harold

Thank you for gracing the world with your presence.

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. "RIP"? He's not dead yet!

You've done what Sky News in Britain did - when his name and biography came up on the newswires, they immediately assumed he must have died (he's 75) rather than won the Nobel Prize. So that was what they announced (and then hastily corrected).

[WhiteTara]

13. LOL I saw it on a CNN crawl and thought

that was strange that he would die the day after he received his nobel award. Glad to hear he is still among the living! :hi:

[Voltaire99]

6. Well said, Indiana

Keep testifying, brother. :-)

[cantstandbush]

8. Please recommend the posts that inform about what is really happening

in Iraq. People need to zero in on this stuff.

[confludemocrat]

11. second that-every story w/casualties reported there should be recom'd'd

Keep that stuff front and center as a reality check to those "moderates" who want a withdrawal plan to span sometime in the next 18-100 months. They are complicit in war crimes.

[QuettaKid]

12. Pic of one of the "insurgents".....

FUCKERS!!!