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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:41 AM
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COLLEGE REPUBLICANS PROTEST KANYE: About 25 University of Florida students
COLLEGE REPUBLICANS PROTEST KANYE: About 25 University of Florida students tout Bush outside concert venue.

(October 18, 2005)

*Apparently, Kanye West’s line “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” didn’t go over too well with the College Republicans at the University of Florida in Gainesville. During the rapper’s recent tour stop at the O’Connell Center on campus, the coed GOP group came out in force – well, about 25-strong – to show their support for the president, reports The Gainesville Sun.

"We just wanted to come out here and make our presence known," said Matt Dean, 19, executive director for the organization. "You hear a lot of negative things in the press, negative things from Kanye, and we thought this would be an awesome opportunity to come out here, you know, to show that there's a lot of people out there who support the president and support what's going on in the country right now."

Members of the protest group waved signs and marched past the O’Connell center, with some even shouting, "Down with Kanye." Others decided to amuse themselves by spinning a prize wheel to win seats in the first few rows of the concert. They ended up winning the tickets.

"It's like knowing what to do with garbage," said University of Florida junior James Clinch, 22, as he tried to decide what to do with his pair of the tickets in the half-hour before the concert was set to start.
(snip/...)

http://eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=22937
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:45 AM
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1. "Waaaaaaaaa!!!!We're going to protect our little Baby Bush!!"
n/t
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:45 AM
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2. Of that 25...
...how many you think were anything other than caucasian?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:29 AM
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37. Or running off to join the military in Iraq?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:41 PM
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108. or on a merit scholarship
:P
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:45 AM
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3. Soooo, how many of those College Republicans were black?
Sorry buddy, just because Bush has black people working for him doesn't men he cares about black people, it means he knows how to use them. He knows how to use people in general, and I don't mean that in a complimentary way.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:01 PM
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98. None -----they are as ------WHITE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW
RACIST CHICKEN HAWK SCUM
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:47 AM
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4. I love this quote
The protesters, who got honks of support from some passing motorists and shouted slurs from others, said they have proof that West's Bush comment during a live telethon benefit last month for the victims of Hurricane Katrina was simply not true.

"I can give you two clear examples, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, close friends of George W. Bush," Dean said.


Now, that is a special kind of stupid right there.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:51 AM
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8. Brush doesn't hate black people, some of his best friends are black....n/t
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:57 AM
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45. I commented on using that statement to prove non racial
bias before and man it just pisses me.

Yea how often have you invited your "black best friends" to your home? better yet "had the nerve" to introduce them to your parents? been cool with being seen with them at a bar?


My experience with these types they sure talk a good game of "having black friends" funny though NEVER do I ever actually see them around anybody who doesn't bear the same pasty faced look as themselves.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:13 PM
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85. I have never seen the Bush family with Black "friends" just

fellow Crime Family member lke Colin and Condi.


It's telling that I have never seen the drunk girls with Black friends either thank goodness.

And Barb and Poppy? No , can't remember them with Black friends.

But, Jeb does have some of "those little brown ones."

You know some of "those people."
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:53 AM
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11. Wow.........
their skin color may be black, they are by no means "Black". They were raised as white as can be and never had much contact with Black America, Kindasleezy especially. Saying she's a spokeswoman for the Black Community is like saying Tom DeLay embodies all the good characteristics of the Caucasian race. It just ain't so!
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Centered Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:30 AM
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38. does that mean some white people are really black then??
I always thought they were posers.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:22 AM
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17. "Some of my 'best' friends are Black." - Republican Troglodytes
Where have we heard that before?
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:52 AM
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Jesus Christ
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 06:53 AM by BronxBoy
Does Bush know any other Blacks besides these 2? Maybe his popularity among Blacks is at 2% because he only knows 2 Black people.

I don't even think they realize how stupid they are.

edited for missing words
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:14 PM
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111. Don't forget the 3% margin of error, could be -1%
means his 'friends' don't like him either!
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:00 AM
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32. "Gee, I'm not a racist! Why, some of my best friends..."
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:40 AM
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59. "Some of my best friends are black..."
The racist apologia everywhere.

The funny part is that it's often even untrue. I remember a guy said this to me and some friends in college after being called on his use of "porch-monkey." He then launched into the time-worn racist distinction between "good" black people and those damn "n***ers." A woman we were hanging out with said "Which of your 'best friends' is black? Name 'em." She knew the guy. The guy turned noticably red, and mumbled something about friends at home (not here at school, doncha know?).

George Bush's "black friend" parade is similiar.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:20 PM
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102. Gee, that's kinda like a gay man who has "a girlfriend" in some far-off
place. Like the puppet character in Avenue Q who has a "girlfriend who lives in Canada".

Her name is Alberta,
She lives in Vancouver.
She cooks like my mother
And sucks like a Hoover.

I email her every single day
Just to make sure that everything's okay.
It's a pity she lives so far away,
In Canada!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:18 PM
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92. Basically, Bush likes a$$-kissers, regardless of race
He's an equal-opportunity tin-god.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:11 PM
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:15 PM
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100. "Now, that is a special kind of stupid right there."...ROTFLMBAO!
Now that wraps it up in a nutshell!:spank:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:48 AM
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5. Rice and Powell.
The same two examples EVERY RW nut gives re: Bush and black people.

Wow, they got a whopping 25 people to show up. Was Toby Keith having a cross-burning/jingoistic circle jerk later that day?
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:49 AM
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6. Hmm....
I wonder how many of those students were white and overprivileged?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:49 AM
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7. 25 protestors...
...out of a student body of roughly 50,000.

:rofl:

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:56 AM
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13. And in the South, no less.
It's nice to see that young people's prejudices haven't become solidified in the South, hopefully they never will.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:34 AM
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39. It's probably the same 25 turkeys
that showed up when Michael Moore came before the 2004 election. The O'Dome was packed and Moore had a field day goofing on them.


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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:49 AM
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44. and I would bet that, unlike Mannthrax Coulter, Moore didn't have to
have the "biggest College Dems" throw them out of the arena.

Mannthrax had to have the "Biggest College Republicans" do her dirty work. Probably had all of three weenies try.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:13 PM
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86. It's the same bunch that picketed in front of Dilbert's house.
...carrying signs that said stuff like DOUN WITH DOGBERT because Dogbert made fun of them. They tried to smoke him out by drinking all their water from the hose When they figured out that they'd all drown before the water was gone, they started pouring it out on the grass (which according to Dilbert needed watering anyway). Priceless.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:51 AM
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9. Let's see: White Bush supporters protest against a black who says that
Bush doesn't care about black people. Sort of proves Kanye right, doesn't one think?

Obviously, these people are completely oblivious to the IRONY of their efforts.
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:54 AM
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31. I think they're majoring
in Advanced Dumbass
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:52 AM
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10. The very thought
of young people being Republicans is beyond hideous to me. What's wrong with them? I can only imagine that they face lives of unendurable banality. I couldn't live like that. What will they be like when they're older? That truly scares me.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:58 AM
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14. hahahha
I spoke with my nephew last Friday but 'sadly' he wasn't planning to join them - he and his friends had tickets for the show.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:41 AM
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60. The evil of banality...
;-)
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:24 AM
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70. They had their sensabilities beaten out of them.......
by thier rich, white, rethuglican parents. What's so hard to understand?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:06 PM
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110. they grew up in a time when RW dominated radio, TV....totally brainwashed
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:55 AM
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12. Were any of them black? lol. nt
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:02 AM
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15. So....
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 05:02 AM by fudge stripe cookays
Matt, James, can we asume then that you'll be enlisting in the next few weeks to show the president how deep your support goes?

No?

Somehow I didn't think so.

Punks.

FSC
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:49 AM
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20. Hey FuckTards Ya Wanna Join My Boy In The Hospital?
He hates Bush and he LIKES black folks but he had his ass blown to shit on a street in Ramadi on October 8, 2005.

Here he is in the hospital in Germany.





The kid sitting in front of him in the truck had his leg blown off and took shrapnel to the head. He is pretty much brain dead. The kid directly to Ben's left so close to Ben in fact his knee was touching Ben's shoulder, Ben was on the floor in the #2 spot, Sergio Escobar age 18 was on the left bench in the #2 spot. He was killed instantly. Here is Ben's right hand it got fucked up when his M-16 magazine exploded due to the heat from the fire. Oh did I mention that? Their truck also caught on fire.





Ben's right leg is blown apart and the Dr's can not believed he lived and that his femoral artery didn't get blown apart as well.I'm sure since things are going SOOOOO good here in the USA under Bush you will be enlisting today! You can take his place in the 3/7. And Sergio's place oh did I mention that these guys had been in Iraq 4 fucking weeks and young Sergio was newly married. Now he is newly dead. Evans, Hinkhouse, and Pablo all badly hurt will write to you from hospital.

Gee how horrific that someone dared to criticize your Fuhrer! The horror. Fucking COWARDS!

Here I am with my son worried out of my mind wondering if he will ever be whole.



Fuck you nasty little NAZIS. I hope your asses get drafted!
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:16 AM
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22. ****BINKA*****
Big hugs - I'm tearing up!! This is the first I've seen the pics. Damn I'm so glad he's with you but Damn I'm about as mad you. My brother heads over there next year. He hates the bastard as much as anyone. Why aren't his cheerleaders over there?!

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:22 AM
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24. Great photos and a nice upbeat smile with mom.
Will we now see junior come out in front of a national audience and sing "Swanee" Al Jolson style?

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:33 AM
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25. Binka,
My thoughts and prayers are with you, your Son and family.

:grouphug:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:42 AM
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27. Oh, BINKA!!!
:grouphug: Thank you for the pictures. Binka and Ben smiling and beautiful...
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:03 AM
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33. Binka, your young man is soooo handsome!
:hug: He and his brothers-in-arms are in our thoughts and prayers. Thank you for sharing your story and pics with us here.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:20 AM
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35. Here Is A Handsome Shot
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:19 AM
Response to Reply #35
50. Hubba Hubba! If I was 10 (ok, 15) years younger...
and not married... and not pregnant... ;-)
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:25 AM
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53. He Looks Much Better When He Isn't Shot To Shit & In The Hospital
Thank you your posts are making me laugh. Good medicine laughter!
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #53
69. I love a man in uniform... just not the blue, open-backed kind...
Get better soon, Son, so that us older women can get back to our lusting and swooning! (And damn to hell those who put our bravest and best in harms way.)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:29 AM
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55. Hey Ben, here's a million thumbs up to you!! Now if I can just stop
crying, I'm going to make some smart-assed remarks about these *@$!#
College Repukes.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #35
90. Good lord your son is cute!
Whatever you do, don't post a pic of him in his uniform. :-)
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:11 PM
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133. I Hope Your Son Runs for Congress!
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 05:12 PM by Barkley
There are six Iraqi vets (all Dems) running in 2006!
:kick:
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:19 AM
Response to Reply #35
134. That man should be on television... H O T T I E!
he comes from good stock, as my momma would say... :-)

glad he is doing well, and I am glad he is angry. channel that into recovery, then into the fight against the cabal. :hug:
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:35 AM
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41. Damn skippy!
"Nasty little Nazis". Sums it up perfectly.

Best wishes to Ben and yourself. He's an extremely brave young man and is lucky to have a mom with such a heart of gold.

God bless you both.

:)

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:46 AM
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43. Binka, you can seehow very much you are helping your son in those pics
I hope his recovery is swift and full.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:04 AM
Response to Reply #20
46. Binka, my prayers are with your son and you
Thank you for sharing those pics with us. :hug:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:08 AM
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47. That's a commentary I'd love for them to read, and see.
They're snotty, empty, pointless retards. They're insulated, protected, with a long, safe, boring life ahead of them from which they can look down on the entire rest of the world outside the American right-wing, while demanding that more and more fine young people serve and suffer for them and their greedy, self-centered, right-wing idiot leaders. No cause is too petty or trivial to risk the lives of citizens if their second-rate, forever anal leaders want it.

Hope your son makes a complete recovery. I think your enery, passion, and good heart will help pull him back to health. Hope he'll be out of Bush'sclutches soon.

He looks like a fine, fine person. Those two wonderful smiles will bring tears to many eyes before the day is over here!
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:10 AM
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118. If you want them
to see and read it, it shouldn't be hard to do a search on the UF student directory. It lists phone numbers and e-mail addresses (at least it did when I was a student), you can give them a link DIRECTLY to Binka's post ^^
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:19 AM
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49. Binka, I'm so sorry about your sons injuries!
My thoughts are with you both for speedy recovery. :hug:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:35 AM
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57. Oh, Binka.
What can be said better than you've said it. The pain and anger just linger and grow.

Best hopes for healing for Ben and your family. He's the same age as my son, who I managed to talk out of signing up in 04.

Ben is fortunate to have such a loving family.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:48 AM
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62. Jesus...Binka I don't have words.
Both and and your son are beautiful. I wish those cowardly little pricks would get within 25 yards of you. I'm sure they would'nt forget THAT encounter.
Jeff
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:50 AM
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64. Wow! Even in the hospital with wounds, he is good looking!
I have been following your posts, and have shown my husband (JanMichael...I am on his name, I think) your photos and commented on what a neat family you all seem like!

I bet Ben is going to do as well as possible, and I am so sorry this stupid shithead in the WH messed up his life, and made the whole family miserable. I also feel for the young men that were with him.

Stephanie
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:55 AM
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65. Thank-you for sharing
I am so sorry :hug:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:02 AM
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67. Kick!
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:28 AM
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72. Such a wonderful young man hurt so badly.
Those dipwads should hike their asses to the nearest recruiting center and report for duty instead of protesting Mr. West.

Ben's the real hero here. His mom's a close second. ;)
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:39 AM
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75. Fuck all the Nazi - clansmen. I cant stand this shit...tears coming.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:18 PM
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82. Thank you for this post.
It helps remind us of the destruction and violence that the war profiteers have wrought. Bu$h and his greedy corporate cronies caused this war, and they could care less about your son or any of the innocent people harmed. They only care about money.

Best wishes and speedy recovery to your son.

Sympathy to the families of the fallen.

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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:50 PM
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95. God Binka.
there are no words.

I hope for both of your sakes that Ben emerges from this OK (as OK as he can be after seeing friends blown to shit for nothing).

I know you'll do what you can to help him through.

This needless crap makes me so sick. Give Ben our best from DU. And you take care of yourself too! This has got to be so difficult to see, as a mom.

You have my prayers, and I'm not a religious gal at all.
fsc
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
103. Bless you and your son Binka.
I will pray for speedy physical and emotional healing for your son and your family.
Love,
Uncle Joe:hug:

P.S. If I remember correctly, on a previous thread you mentioned Ben is a Marine, if that is correct, as a former Marine tell him I said Semper Fi.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #20
105. BINKA! Here is an email address to send them your message
fsugop@yahoo.com

got it from their website:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3349/about_us.htm
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:16 AM
Response to Reply #105
117. Thanks I Sent Them My Post And Added This
Hey Idiot Jerk-Offs

See this beautiful girl



Look at her again



That's Ben's sister Callie. Guess what loser? She and her friends who look just like her DO NOT FUCK REPUKES! Asshats like you get Reptile Pussy! Now please go fuck yourself or your reptilian pussy and THEN DIE!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #117
129. Outasight!
You're out of control, Binka! I just hope your daughter and her friends are putting more time into boffing Democrats and Progressives than surfing the Internet, or you're "gonna have a lotta 'splainin' to do".

:evilgrin:

It reminds me of the Vietnam era "Girls say YES to Boys who say NO" campaign.

Anyway, it's clear to see that more than just political conscience and honor run in your family; it's always nice to have the Good Looks thing covered ... next time I'm producing a big-budget Hollywood TV show about the Beautiful People, you'll have to send me their resumes and head shots.

They'll be cast as the good guys.

--p!


They drink herbal tea. They sing "Kumbayah". They don't wear fur.
Their most decorated veterans make hot Love and stop dirty War.

And they don't want anyone left out in the cold -- no matter how poor, fat, or un-cool.
They strike terror into the cold, cowardly hearts of neo-Conservatives!
And when night falls on Washington, DC -- they rise to any challenge facing Liberty!
Hot Progressives In Love
with Callie LeBinque---- and ---- with Ben Binkinelli
as Tiffni Einstein-Hawking ---- and----as Capt. Heartthrob Face
(A Pigwidgeon Production
Coming this fall to FOX TV

Because Mr. Murdock speaks only to power.
On his knees if he has to.
In fact, he likes it that way.
Really.
You shoulda seen him at last year's Christmas party when Dick Cheney was invited.

And our office manager got about twenty good pictures of "Dick and Rupert's WetWhite Christmas" with her digital camera.
She keeps promising to post them on the Internet.
But that's another story.)


The Motion Picture Assholes of America have rated this film NR-06
This film may be offensive to Republicans. So fuck 'em.

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:10 AM
Response to Reply #129
131. I Love You! Gawd What A Good Laugh! THANK YOU!!!!
with Peyton BinkaWillow as Muppet



and Ian BustOutBinkle as Harry Stand

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #20
113. Sorry to learn about your son
Best wishes under these terrible circumstances.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:15 AM
Response to Reply #20
115. HELL YEAH.
Thank goodness he's alive!

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:02 AM
Response to Reply #115
116. He's Really Feeling Depressed & Guilty About That
I need to get back to him. His father just does not know how to reach him. I can nudge him through the stages of grief like only a mother can. Thanks ALL for the prayers and thoughts.

I'm feeling a bit blue today.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #116
139. Binka.
You all are in my prayers. God Bless Ben and may his recovery be sure and swift. He is certainly a gorgeous boy, as are all your children.

:hug:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
122. Oh,we have been praying so hard for you!


Yes! Draft Jenna and Barb and that old Bag Mama Barb too!

To see what this Crime Family has done to our precious babies is awful.

Our hearts are with you.

What a fine young man you gave birth too!!!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
123. Thanks for the pictures!
Take care, Binka!

You, Ben, and your family are in our prayers.

He's smiling with Mom; that just makes me feel a whole lot better.

:grouphug:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:19 AM
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128. Death sucks. And Ben kicked Death in the ass.
I hope you don't mind my saying this, but most of my prayers are for Sergio and his family. And your worry for Ben is probably going to be unnecessary -- because, as for him ever being "whole", he's a lot more whole than most of us will ever be.

That's a more-inclusive way of saying "Ben's more of a man than I'll ever be." Because he is. He took the Big Risk for the Democracy he believes in. He went through the fire, literally. And he's here to smile about it, because of the unfathomable agenda of Providence, as well as his own piss-and-vinegar defiance of the Devil (and maybe Mr. Bush, as well).

How old is Ben? About 22, 24? It's a hell of a way to be initiated into manhood, but there it is. When I was his age, I was worrying about whether or not this girl or that would go out with me. And our Courageous Maximum Leader was worrying about the price of cocaine.

Tell him for me that there are a lot of people who recognize his unbowed courage and sacrifice. It's people like Ben who make it possible for people like me to live in a country where the worst the Nazis can do is to merely bankrupt us and kill just a few select victims ... outside of the theater of warfare. While Ben's sleep is troubled by pain and morphia tonight, my own head may rest without fear. Do Bush and his goons understand how that works?

Ben's wounds will heal with time. Will Bush's feckless arrogance wane at all?

The Bush Junta will bear the judgement of every Sergio Escobar and other dead military brother and sister and civilian and person injured from their recreational war. Thousands of ghosts stand ready to bear true witness -- will Bush and Co. repent of their evil? Will they recognize their culpability, and begin at least to repair the ruin they caused in their war orgy?

Thank God -- or the Flying Spaghetti Monster -- or whatever -- for people like Ben and like Sergio. They remind us that the George Bushes represent only the pus and scabs of the wounds of our souls. What that we may all heal quickly and prevent future injuries to the body and soul of Humanity.

And God, if you're listening, take care of Sergio and the rest of the guys and gals sent to Your mansion prematurely -- and tweak the healing process just a little for the survivors like Ben.

Because if you don't, when I get up there, I'm gonna kick your ass myself.

--p!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #20
132. Oh Binka, Thanks For The Pictures! You Two Are BEAUTIFUL!!
Get well soon, and yes, fuck the Nazi freeptards!

P.S. Tell Ben hi from Dinger :)
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:26 AM
Response to Reply #20
135. I'm so happy you are able to be with your son.
You're beautiful, he's handsome and very brave. Please thank him from me for serving his country, even though the moronic reason he's there is, well, moronic. He did good. :headbang:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:35 PM
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138. Binka.......
I spoke out against the possibility of war when Bush started the saber rattling. I argued (on web, op/eds, took to the streets) that the 'proof' they were offering was wrong. I may not have had access to 'intelligence' but what I knew of the mid east and SH and of OBL-they would never have had more that a loose alliance of convenience. SH knew which side his bread was buttered on. AND YET,too many good people bought in to this war.
Binka, I am so sorry for what happened to your son, and sorrier for those fine young kids that died. I am left with the nagging feeling that I should have done more. It breaks my heart to know this was a war of choice. All I do is to continue speaking out. Thanks for the pictures-it helps to remind us that these are real people-not just a number.
Binka, I agree with your sentiments, but I hate any young person to go into this hell--even the little NAZIS.
You raises a fine son (the apple never falls far from the tree)and I wish him a speedy full recovery.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #20
140. Glad you can be there with your baby boy!
I bet you have to be there, to fight people off such a handsome young man! Please give him all the best from Clintmax and Me! :hi:
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:35 AM
Response to Reply #15
40. Yellow elephants. eom
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #40
68. Operation Yellow Elephant - "Sign Up Or Shut Up"
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #68
94. HELL, YEAH
College Democrats NATIONWIDE should take this and RUN WITH IT.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:10 AM
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16. This sickens me on so many levels
G-ville is a fairly "librul" place, despite this. Also, wait until they try to get a good-paying job in *'s economy! Reality has a way of smacking you upside the head.

Of course, they will just find some way of blaming the Clenis.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:27 AM
Response to Original message
18. This is news??
25 college kids?

Man, the stories this paper must have about who goes to the bars every night!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #18
34. Given the Bush history in Florida, they could all be JEB's illegite kids!
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:32 AM
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19. Idiocy
good to see that whole freedom of speech thing has been permanently removed from the elite colleges.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:12 AM
Response to Reply #19
21. 25 idiots don't stand for the whole student body.
Quite a few of them went to the concert. Or worked their night-time jobs. Or studied.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:21 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. yeah I was cherry-picking my sample
like the GOP.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:33 AM
Response to Original message
26. George W. Bush loves black people



On the other hand, see:



MUSIC
Title: George Bush Doesn't Like Black People
File size: 9.1 MB
Length: 3:48
Format: mp3
DESCRIPTION
Response to George Bush and His Administration's lagged response to the Gulf Coast Tragedy. Also called "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People."
Date created: 2005-09-24
First appeared at: this site
Posted by: FWMJ.com
Sampling rate: 44100
Recording mode: Mono
First appeared on: 2005-09-24
My other works
George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People (Radio Edit)
George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People (Radio Edit)

More:
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/53964


And:
Thursday, September 8, 2005
Katrina: Kanye remixed, "George Bush Don't Like Black People"



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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #26
28. Man, is that guy Bush gay or WHAT??
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 06:48 AM by WinkyDink
And Binka, God bless you and your courageous son.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #26
66. What's the point of being pResident if you can't grab the citizens?
He looks like such an ass. He probably told himself everyone he grabs loves him. So much for acting "Presidential," like Karen Hughes came screaming to the press to announce during his 2000 campaign.

As Kansas City Chief (and Oakland Raider) Marcus Allen said, in reference to people who "celebrate" too much and extravagantly after a touchdown, "Act like you've been somewhere!"

Great post.



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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:49 AM
Response to Original message
29. I love free speech because these guys get the privilege of
making complete asses of themselves

:rofl:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:52 AM
Response to Original message
30. Recommended.
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 06:52 AM by crispini
Because it's just too funny, and the thread makes it even more funny AND poignant.

To Binka and Ben .... health to you!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:20 AM
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36. They "support what's going on in the country right now." If they like
what's going on in the country right now, they'd love sliding down a long razor blade into a pool of alcohol.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #36
73. That quote hit me, too.
They like 12% unemployment (real figures), a crappy economy and job-outlook, rising gas prices, and a war taking some of our best young people away from us too soon. Wow, what a great job that idiot is doing. :sarcasm:
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:37 AM
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42. Hum....
I wonder how they will like their administration when they find that the deduction for student loan interest is under the axe by members of *'s tax commission!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-18-bush-tax-plan_x.htm

Here is the original post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1857410


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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:14 AM
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48. WAAAAH!! Everything is going right for us!! WAAAAAH!
Never-ending war, Repukes running pretty much every facet of government, religion and corporations, a two-class society, Bolton in the UN, bat-shit insanoids in high office, two stolen elections . . . . these fuckbuckets have pretty much gotten everything they want. Tell me again WHY people who are associated with a party that has hijacked the world and have run rampant and for the most part, given a free pass by the so-called "opposition" party, are protesting, exactly???
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #48
79. The answer is in the immortal words of Morpheus...
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 11:55 AM by Commie Pinko Dirtbag
WE'RE STILL HERE!

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #79
84. Yep . . . and we AIN'T a' going away!
Much to these bitches' dismay . . .
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:22 AM
Response to Original message
51. Without reading the post or article, I'll bet that the 25 students are
all white and 90% male!
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:24 AM
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52. "It's like knowing what to do with garbage,"
Wow, so they're clever and brainwashed! Well, maybe not clever...
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:27 AM
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54. heh
>>>>>>>>>"the coed GOP group came out in force – well, about 25-strong – to show their support for the president"<<<<<<<<<<<


"republican lite" is taking on a whole new meaning! :rofl:
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:34 AM
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56. Will this knock Kanye's album from multi-platinum to simply platinum?
Just curious. The right-wing boycott of Disney a few years ago did bupkiss to their sales.
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #56
61. whoever was doing the giveaway
should've handed them enlistment papers along with the tickets. Good luck to you and Ben, hope he makes a speedy recovery.
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zorro349 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:40 AM
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58. Uh....
I think that someone should explain to the College Republicans that protesting against a music artist is probably a waste of time. In fact, the fact they protest against him only gives him more press and helps him sell more records.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:50 AM
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63. Later, the group began attacking living people trying to eat their brains.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:27 AM
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71. I think the funniest thing about repub protests..
THEY'RE puny!!!!
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:36 AM
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74. Why aren't they in Iraq trying to implement the Neocon Fantasy?
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Karla Marx Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:43 AM
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76. A pro-Bush protest of 25 gets more attention than
an anti-war protest of 200,000. Thanks, "liberal" media!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #76
77. Same with 9/24!
They gave these pro-W assholes (all . .. 300 of them . . . for BOTH days) as much, if not MORE coverage than the 300+ thousand that were down there. Must be nice to be able to create your own reality. "Liberal" media. PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #76
78. yeah, but the article is hilarious
25 strong....ooooooooh, look at the great number of supporters, demonstrating against West. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I can't stop laughing. You know we need to give West some enlistment papers so he can hand them out to those who wish to protest what he's saying. Let's see the white-knuckled, zombie stare while they attempt to explain why they can't go and fight Herr Bushler's glorious war.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:56 AM
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80. Why isn't that 19 year old lecacy child in Iraq dodging IED's???
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:04 PM
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81. One question, Mr Dean, and I don't mean Howard!!
Why aren't you and your fellow college Republicans in the Army or Marine Corps so you can fight in Iraq or Afghanistan? Oh, I forgot, your type don't enlist in the military.


Binka, I hope your son makes a full recovery from his injuries. That also includes any mental injuries.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:41 PM
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83. Because dissention is the worst evil
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:54 PM
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87. 25 out of ?????
I would suspect that 25 disgruntled crew-cutters is nothing that Kanye would be too worried about :)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:00 PM
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88. umm, were they all black?
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Aimah Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #88
141. I don't think you can find 25 black republicans on any College campus.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:05 PM
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89. Keeping up a half-decade old tradition
of being out-attended by the porta-potties.



:headbang:
rocknation
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #89
93. I would like to tip one of those porta-potties with a pug in it
But it wouldn't be healthy to contaminate the porta-pottie :puke:
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Aimah Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #89
107. Kanye is Ok
I went out and bought Kanyes album in the first week just to show support. That wasn't a stretch because I bought his last CD. After thinking about it more I realized that Kanyes comment isn't going to hurt his career. Most of the people mad at what Kanye said would never buy his or any other black persons CD whether it be Rap or R&B. It has earned him new "fans". There is a section in the Indianapolis Star called "Let It Out" where people can make anonymous comments. One comment was from a 45 year old white grand mother who said that she's never bought a rap CD but she bought Kanyes to show support. No one is worried about a couple lame no fun having College Republicans.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #107
136. I bought one of his CDs for my daughter's birthday. I like it, and I'm OLD
:)
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 02:16 PM
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91. First, I would ask them who paid them. Then I would laugh at them because
they probably missed a great concert. . . IDIOTS!

Kanye did not lie so what are they protesting his appearance for. What's next, burning his CD's? I doubt that will happen because the majority of the black community is a huge part of the Democratic Party.

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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:58 PM
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96. U of F assholes.
I'm not saying that just because of my Seminole pride, I'm saying that because these guys are disgusting to the state of Florida.

I was honored in the O'Connell Center with a friend for grades once, it's nice.

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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #96
125. Having previously lived in Florida, FSU is the asshole capital of the.....
state colleges. FSU can't hold a candle to The University of Florida academically. Also, seems to me having but 25 morons out of a student body of what? 50,000.... speaks well for that university.

John from Charlotte, Sebring Florida

Cornell Class of '74
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:01 PM
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97. For College Republicans,
25 is force.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:16 PM
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101. Colon Bowell and Condosleeza Ricin, I'm convinced.
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 04:17 PM by pinniped
:eyes:

Can those college repukes name one more????
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:51 PM
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104. LOOK!!! I found their website
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3349/cr.htm

The web site of the Florida State University College Republicans
contains unabashed, unapologetic Republicanism
and conservatism. If you feel that you may be too
liberal to proceed any further, or if you are a communist,
you may want to go elsewhere.

*********************

We need to send them a nice note.

fsugop@yahoo.com
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:08 PM
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106. Wow, still playing the "communist" card?
What is this, 1950?
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really annoyed Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:45 PM
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109. As I just said in the "funny movie" thread in the lounge
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 08:46 PM by really annoyed
The movie "Clue" has my favorite line!

"Communism is just a red herring!"

:evilgrin:
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:25 AM
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119. NOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!
This is the WRONG website !!!

That is the FSU young fascists in Tallahassee. You need to hit up the Gainesville GOP brainwashed http://grove.ufl.edu/~ufgop/

You can e-mail the group that held this protest at THIS e-mail address UFGOP@aol.com
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:02 AM
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120. Thanks For The PM
I made sure the RIGHT Nazis got my post!
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:15 PM
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121. Sorry I posted the wrong one originally
Hugs to you and Ben. :hug:

My nephew's friend, also Ben, came back from 6 months in Iraq on saturday. Fortunately he wasn't injured. :patriot:
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:23 PM
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112. Perfect opportunity for military recruiters!
Why aren't those * supporters over in Iraq "protecting" us and "liberating" Iraqis?
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:49 AM
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114. Who Cares What They Think. They Qualify As Neo-Nazis Anyways
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:50 AM by wellst0nev0ter
From that Salon story 2 years ago on College Repukes:

After a cocktail, the foursome retired to Sibeni and Chen's disheveled room, where the hosts made the girls fuzzy navels with orange juice and peach schnapps. At which point all let loose their political ids.

Sibeni, who had spiky hair, glasses and a long face, is high-strung and given to rash pronouncements. He denounced assassinated civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. for "dividing the country" and trying to help African-Americans "advance over the white society," and defended American support of the brutal Augusto Pinochet regime in Chile. Chen, who went to high school with Sibeni in Great Neck, Long Island, is easy-going and quick to concede Republican mistakes, mocking his friend's more outré arguments.

<snip>

Chen seemed so mild and centrist that at one point I called him a closet Democrat. Taken aback, he replied: "How am I a closet Democrat? I'm racist, I love guns and I hate welfare."

He wasn't kidding. "I'm racist against anybody who doesn't work for a living," said Chen, whose family comes from Taiwan. "We're in Washington D.C. You can guess who that is." He's no fan of religion, but says he's less bothered about paying tax dollars to faith-based programs than to "crack whores who have eight kids because it's easier than working."

"I wish there could be racial equality," said Sibeni, who, while in high school, refused to attend Martin Luther King Day celebrations. "The number one reason there's racial inequality is because of hip-hop."

"For young black men, it glorifies something they try to live up to, and they end up dead or in jail," says Ferruggia, sipping her drink.

Before the Supreme Court's decision upholding affirmative action last month, "I couldn't admit I'm a racist," Chen said. "They admitted they're racist, so now I can too."

All four of them believe they have lost opportunities to affirmative action. "I applied to NYU and I didn't get in," says Sibeni. "My SAT scores weren't the greatest ..."

"You were just another white guy from Long Island," says Ferruggia. "The only person you can really discriminate against anymore is white men."

Ferruggia, the daughter of a pharmaceutical salesman, was valedictorian of her Southwest Florida high school. "I had the highest SAT scores in between five and 10 years" at her school, she says, and feels affirmative action cheated her out of scholarships. "I watched minority after minority after minority accept these awards ... I'm tired of people whining that I'm taking away from them."

"A lot of poor white people in the trenches of Appalachia, they don't complain, they go out and work," said Ferruggia's blond friend, who sat quietly next to her for most of the evening. "Black people have been given a lot of chances ..."

"And they always screw it up," said Sibeni.

Despite his high school rebellion against Martin Luther King, Chen said Sibeni used to be a "docile, pacifist kid" who others picked on. Sometimes, Chen said, he even joined in.

Then something happened to Sibeni in 2000.

He was walking on campus one night and "two African-American males came up to me," he recalled. "They said, 'Yo, nigga, can I get a dollar?' Being the affable person I am, I took out my wallet. They grabbed the wallet, but I took it back. I saw one of them reaching in his pants. He had two circular bandsaw blades. I took off."

Sibeni had the remote-control keys to his Pathfinder, and he said he used them to set the car alarm off. Then he ran to a friend's room and started drinking.

Later that night, he continued, two Estonian exchange students were robbed and "almost beaten to death." Sibeni's attempted muggers confessed to the crime and were given two years in juvenile detention.

After that, Sibeni got into guns. He now owns an assault rifle, a shotgun and a hunting rifle that he always keeps loaded.

Looking at Sibeni sitting cross-legged on his bed, Chen said: "You used to get beat up. Now you're the one beating people up."

Sibeni has brief charitable impulses -- he considered donating his ticket to the Rove dinner to a homeless person, so he could enjoy a free steak. But the idea of being forced to contribute to a broader civic good makes him livid. Taxes, he insisted, should be abolished. Who, then, will build things like roads? "Coca Cola should be building roads just to get exposure," Sibeni said.

"Who's going to build a road in inner-city Baltimore?" asked Chen.

"It's not my problem," said Sibeni.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/07/28/bush/index1.html
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:25 PM
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124. How many people attended the concert? Article doesn't say.
How many people attending the concert agreed with Kanye's assessment of W? Again, the article doesn't say.

But I'll bet you a round of drinks that there were more than 25!!!
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:39 PM
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126. Yeah right. Wasn't that the Republicans' "Southern Strategy?"
Make it obvious to everyone how much the party loves black people. Why would Kanye West or anyone think Republicans don't care for or about blacks?

:sarcasm:

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:43 PM
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127. How many of them are card-holding KKK members?
Or skin-heads?
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:57 AM
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130. Binka...
so good to see you and Ben. Sending more angels...O8) O8) O8) O8)
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:37 AM
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137. Just to show they're idiots:
"It's like knowing what to do with garbage," said University of Florida junior James Clinch, 22, as he tried to decide what to do with his pair of the tickets in the half-hour before the concert was set to start.

If he threw the tickets away, he's a freaking moron. I thought Republicans were all about money and finance -- you'd think this dumbass would remember that and try to sell the tickets to make a buck or two.
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