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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:35 AM
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DeLay lawyers ask judge to step aside because of Democratic contributions
DeLay lawyers ask judge to step aside because of Democratic contributions
(AP)

21 October 2005

AUSTIN, Texas - Rep. Tom DeLay turned his conspiracy and money laundering case into a partisan war, asking the presiding judge to step aside because he made Democratic contributions and seeking to move a trial out of Texas’ heavily Democratic capital city.

Hours after DeLay, a Texas Republican, was fingerprinted, photographed and released on US$10,000 (Ð8,400) bail in Houston, his lawyers filed a motion Thursday in the capital listing 34 contributions that State District Judge Bob Perkins made to Democratic organizations and candidates.

Three contributions went to Sen. John Kerry, a Massachusetts, when he was running for president in 2004. Others went to the Democratic National Committee, the party’s Texas arm and MoveOn.org., a liberal interest group.

DeLay and two associates are accused of laundering money through the national Republican party to Texas legislative candidates, despite a state law prohibiting use of corporate funds to support or defeat state candidates. The lawmaker was forced, under Republican House rules, to step aside as majority leader when he was indicted on felony counts.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:38 AM
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1. I hope the judge laughs in their faces. n.t
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:43 AM
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2. Oh good. Judge shopping.
Let's go find one who contributes to republicans. :sarcasm:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:44 AM
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3. What Fucking Unmitigated Gall. Delay Is One Audacious Shit.
Squash this fuckwittage cock sucking BUG!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:51 AM
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4. I yelled at the TV last night
there was bug-boy's lawyer - whining about the mug shot/fingerprint card - claiming it was done so it could be used by political opponents to "smear" bug-boy

ok - I could sort of understand that the whining and political opponent charge is part of the defense spin -- but there's the lawyer standing there WITH a copy of the mugshot/fingerprint card - waving it around for the freaking cameras...

if the "MORAN" was soooooooooo upset about this then why the "f**k" is he waving it around for the cameras and all of America to see?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:55 AM
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5. He's bucking for the maximum sentence
Any defendant who acts the way he has sure had better not expect any leniencyonce he's convicted. I hope he keeps it up right until the end.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:08 AM
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29. You are absolutely correct.......
Delay and his lawyer are truly doing themselves no favors, acting the way that they are. Pissing off the prosecutor, and pissing off a judge isn't smart, no matter how you look at it.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:24 AM
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33. The lawyer was openly disrespectful
he must be pretty damn sure that the case will be moved or that the appellate court will see things his way,
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:56 AM
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6. Karma.
The most vile card stacker in the country facing life in prison for activities related to him stacking the cards is now crying about the cards being stacked against him!

(I love that little crunch a bug makes when squished under foot.)
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:25 AM
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34. She's quite the bitch isn't she?
Delay knows he is going to avoid this, but that it has come this far is amazing.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:59 AM
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7. So do WE THE PEOPLE also get to shop for judges if we're indicted?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:02 AM
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8. whiners. let them ask if the money was laundered. 8^)
let them beg for mercy.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:12 AM
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9. Uh, DeLay, this isn't a freaking bench trial...
Therefore, I must :rofl: at your complaint.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:14 AM
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10. Hahahahahaha . . . this legal argument from the guy who . . .
.
Hahahahahaha . . . this legal argument from the guy who . . . had (and has) his hands in the placement (through money laundering) of (1) the Justices that sit on the Texas Supreme Court!!! And who bought (2) the Republicans who sit in the Texas state legislature as well as Republicans in Texas in attempts to (3) tip the majority in federal congress! Did he also fund (4) Republicans across America in attempts to tip the majority in congress?

Too f*cking funny! The man is all pride, haughtiness, audacity, smugness, self-righteous, self-centered, vanity, w/ no Christian humility, no character, no morals.


Tom DeLay's booking photograph!


.

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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:18 AM
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11. I can't believe he gets to pick his judge!!!
We need to watch this.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:23 AM
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13. It's the judge's option to "yes" or "no" this request for his recusal ...
.
It's the judge's option to "yes" or "no" this request for his recusal ... (a request to remove a judge). Then if DeLay's attorneys don't like the judge's order, they may then appeal that order.

Yes, do keep an eye on this . . . however, it's a fairly rudimentary request from a party's lawyer. Not unusual. However, ironic it may be in that this is what's -- in a sense -- in DeLay's indictment. Both deal w/ attempts to corrupt the system by money contributions.

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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:36 AM
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22. Mind if I borrow your bug.....there are a few people I need to email it
to...:rofl:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:19 AM
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12. Just like Saddam Hussein
DeLay refuses to recognize the validity of a court where HE didn't get to pick the Judge!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:23 AM
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14. Then I want Scalia and Thomas to step down. nt
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:24 AM
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15. So DeLay can't get a fair trial unless
1. The prosecutor is a card-carrying Republican

2. The judge is a card-carrying Republican

3. The jury is composed of card-carrying Republicans

4. The courtroom is located in an area full of card-carrying Republicans

5. No "liberal" press allowed. No cameras or tape recorders. The FOX News and the Excellence In Broadcasting network will report.

6. Thermostat settings, choice of beverage, recess times to be determined by defendant.

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:28 AM
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16. DeLay can try! However, let's see how corrupt the judges are . . .
in Texas. Didn't DeLay and Company replace the entire bench of the Texas Supreme Court w/ narrow-minded Republicans via campaign contributions? This is why some states have appointed judges not elected judges, e.g., Massachusetts (America's first constitution).
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:45 AM
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19. It was Rove
Who pretty much engineered the transformation of Texas government from Democratic to Republican, starting with the defeat of Ann Richards.

DeLay engineered the redistricting scheme to give the GOP full control of the Texas congressional delegation.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:32 AM
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48. Unreal . . . no wonder why Dumbya is holding tight to Rove . . .
And may Dumbya continue to hold tight to Rove as Rove gets indicted by the fed grand jury! Tis long overdue. Too long.

BTW, wasn't it DeLay who (illegally) procured that U.S. military plane and/or helicopter to fetch the TX Dems who jumped state border to avoid the mandated number present (quorum) for a vote in the Tx state legislature when the Republicans did their congressional "re-districting" . . . ?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:31 AM
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17. I guess if DeLay is dirty, he knows how to present more dirt??
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:42 AM
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18. You go to court with the judge you have -
Not the one you wish you had!

Heavens to Betsy, ask anyone.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:29 AM
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36. Oh, that's nice. Heh.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:25 AM
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20. "We Trust the People" unless they are Democrats of course
I want a Republican judge whaaaa. Republican judges know their place.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:27 AM
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21. sometimes when you cage a squirrel
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:27 AM by truthisfreedom
he gets weird. i'm just saying.
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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:45 AM
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23. Out of Curiosity, Tom
Where did you stand on Scalia's involvement in Bush v. Gore, while his son was a partner at the law firm representing Bush?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:49 AM
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24. If so, then any judge who contributed to, or received from, Repukes
would have to be recused, also.

Just another attempt to blame the "radical lefties" for convicting him.

I hope that he gets the "death penalty" type judges that are too scary for him to even touch . . .
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:50 AM
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25. I wonder how many judges
have contributed to Delay's campaigns over the years?

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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:21 AM
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26. Yea, right. Rehnquist was a Republican campaign manager
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 07:24 AM by ladjf
and he made it to Chief Justice.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:57 AM
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27. Excuse me, but, Harriet F****ng Miers??????
The Scalia/Cheney duck hunting jaunt?????

It's okay for Republicans to have their cases decided by their cronies, but heaven forbid a judge makes a contribution to a Democrat?????

Jeez Louise. Just kill me now.

:eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:06 AM
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28. The audacity of this man is beyond description of words.
If the judge was a known homosexual what would DeLay say? 0h never mind!

Is Tom hinting that he wants a judge he gave campaign contributions too?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:08 AM
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30. I'm not seeing this play out well for DeLay in the end.
I realize they're trying to make it appear that the entire things is political and not about crimes. Thus they will corrupt the potential jurors and have a better chance of winning.

They could go after Earle, he is a prosecuting attorney after all. People believe they make mistakes, that's why they lose cases.

The ads were a screw up, I've yet to talk to a Republican who doesn't think DeLay was behind them some where down the road. They've made him look desperate.

The thing is, people may have held suspicion for the prosecuting attorney but the prosecuting attorney and the judge?

This may have been a step too far. They look desperate and guilty now.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:26 AM
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35. He knows something we don't
You just don't act so cocky when your freedom is at stake.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:34 AM
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39. I wouldn't assume that. The man's a sociopath:
Egos the size of the Oort cloud, and they end up believing their own bullshit. I expect the lawyer's in the same vein. It works for as long as it does partly because normal people simply can't believe what they're seeing. And then, fear: aggression is bad enough, but you really don't want to piss off a crazy person.

It takes a moment like this to really shine a light on these peoples' characters, and I for one and loving every minute of it, regardless of the outcome.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:11 AM
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31. Well, is it appropriate for a Republican judge to hear this case?
i think not. From Miers, Scalia, Thomas, Rhenquist...all Republican contributors.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:23 AM
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32. Appearance of impropriety
If the judge doesn't pay for vacations with the defendant then he is unqualified to hear the case.

Fair is fair.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:30 AM
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37. Oh, PLEASE let him win this one
Then it can be applied across the board, including to SCOTUS nominees.

:sarcasm:
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:31 AM
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38. so then I can refuse to be tried by a judge who's had rethug money?
delay can kiss my ass, that worthless piece of shit is going down.
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:40 AM
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40. self delete
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 09:54 AM by proReality
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:52 AM
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41. DeLay doesn't see to have a problem....
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 10:05 AM by AnneD
with his Democratic attorney..why should he worry about a Democratic judge....Notice the donation to DNC and Lampson

www.newsmeat.com/judiciary_political_donation/Dick_Deguerin
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:01 AM
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44. good point
That right there invalidates DeGuerin's contention that the judge's donations to Democratic organizations make him unable to be impartial. You have to hand it to DeGuerin, he tries every trick in the book on behalf of his clients. Too bad he doesn't seem to put those talents to work on pro bono cases.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:23 AM
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45. If Dick
can take on the US gov on behalf of the Branch Davidians and get a millionare off a murder rap that actually admitted to hacking up his annoying neighbour (esp in Texas)...well let's just say he is real good. I don't begrudge him, cause I know that some of DeLay's ill gotten money will fund Dem candidates. Dick is just doing a job that he does well.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:54 AM
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42. It will be denied
But then be a cause for appeal. If it gets to appeal, then the Bu$h appointees can kill any judgement handed out in the lower courts.

In the meantime though, DeLay should be denied a seat in Congress until all this is cleared-up.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:57 AM
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43. LOL. Yeah, this makes a lot of sense ...
"Pardon me, Judge Perkins. Y'see, I'm in a bit of a spot here. Could you maybe step aside so that a judge who'd be biased in my favor can take over?"
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:40 AM
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46. Check out this story at Think Progress.
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:43 AM
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47. Leave DeLay alone...
He's just fighting against the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy. Geez.

:sarcasm:
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:15 AM
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49. Not surprised
All this man knows his "dirty tricks" to get away with his evil, his true colors are so apparent.
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