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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:30 AM
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Bushies feeling the boss' wrath (Furious George)
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Bushies feeling
the boss' wrath



Prez's anger growing in hard times - pals

BY THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

President Bush is facing specter of losing irreplaceable aide Karl Rove.
WASHINGTON - Facing the darkest days of his presidency, President Bush is frustrated, sometimes angry and even bitter, his associates say.

With a seemingly uncontrollable insurgency in Iraq, the White House is bracing for the political fallout from a grim milestone that could come any day: the combat death of the 2,000th American G.I.

Last week alone, 23 military personnel were killed in Iraq, and five were wounded yesterday in a relentless series of attacks across the country.

This week could also bring a special prosecutor's decision that could shake the foundations of the Bush government.

The President's top political guru, Karl Rove, and Vice President Cheney's right-hand man, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, are at the center of a two-year criminal probe into the leak of a CIA agent's identity. Many Bush staffers believe indictments are likely.

"He's like the lion in winter," observed a political friend of Bush. "He's frustrated. He remains quite confident in the decisions he has made. But this is a guy who wanted to do big things in a second term. Given his nature, there's no way he'd be happy about the way things have gone."

SNIP>

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/358714p-305660c.html
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:35 AM
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1. Big Things...?? No Way.... his things were all selfinterest....not for
the common good....
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:33 AM
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26. A political friend of Bush? Nuff said...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:45 AM
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78. THE ANGRY CHIMPANZEE
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:48 PM
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97. Ok, that's just really disturbing.....
How'm I gonna get that outta my head, now????
:crazy:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:42 PM
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104. Great to see you Vietnam vets have got together
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 01:44 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
to stick it to the chickenhawk warmongers, Saigon. Keep up the good work, guys! All the world's relying on you Americans. Maybe only the French are as ornery as you lot! If them! At least in the West.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:36 AM
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2. If he weren't so deadly dangerous, I'd rejoice.
He has earned suffering. But he's too heartless to feel it.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:46 AM
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69. Fuck it. I AM rejoicing. It's pretty much the only cheery stuff in my
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 10:50 AM by calimary
life at the moment (got a kid in eight grade giving me absolute HELL, whom I'm going to have to drag, kicking and screaming, back to even marginally decent grades). I take a GREAT deal of comfort in this. It hasn't been exactly pleasant around our house lately (since the kid's progress report - or LACK OF progress report). So, believe me, I am RELISHING this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:27 PM
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120. Good Luck with that kid,
calimary!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:38 AM
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3. ...and the cow jumped over the moon.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:40 AM
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4. It sucks being an incompetent ass.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:44 AM
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5.  "his celebrated temper"



.....Bush usually reserves his celebrated temper for senior aides because he knows they can take it. Lately, however, some junior staffers have also faced the boss' wrath.

"This is not some manager at McDonald's chewing out the help," said a source with close ties to the White House when told about these outbursts. "This is the President of the United States, and it's not a pleasant sight."

The specter of losing Rove, his only truly irreplaceable assistant, lies at the heart of Bush's distress. But a string of political reversals, including growing opposition to the Iraq war, Hurricane Katrina's aftermath and Harriet Miers' bungled Supreme Court nomination, have also exacted a personal toll.......

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:46 AM
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6. says Jr is convinced that 'History will vindicate "his decisions. Lulu-
land.

...Presidential advisers and friends say Bush is a mass of contradictions: cheerful and serene, peevish and melancholy, occasionally lapsing into what he once derided as the "blame game." They describe him as beset but unbowed, convinced that history will vindicate the major decisions of his presidency even if they damage him and his party in the 2006 and 2008 elections......
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:46 AM
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51. His legacy will be as the worst leader we've ever had
Even more tragic, he came at time when we really need help as a nation in facing some difficult realities, like the end of the oil economy and the reality of global warming.

He's been the alternative reality president.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:02 AM
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54. I totally agree..."The history books will tell it all!"
Many will write about his bad decisions, his bad administration, about Katrina, about all the other hurricanes, and especially about how he and the neo-cons dooped the World by telling lies so they could start a war to make money.

George W. Bush Jr. is a disgrace to the United States of America.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:01 PM
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83. I want to live long enough to see it
a historical consensus that Bush was the worst president this country has ever had, and one of the worst world leaders ever.

and to see the pendulum take a wide, prolonged swing the other way. One can hope.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:29 PM
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122. oh? Mr. "History? . . . I don't know . . . we'll all be dead"?!!
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:12 AM
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128. Sounds like alcoholism to me, alright!
"Presidential advisers and friends say Bush is a mass of contradictions: cheerful and serene, peevish and melancholy, occasionally lapsing into what he once derided as the "blame game." They describe him as beset but unbowed, convinced that history will vindicate the major decisions of his presidency even if they damage him and his party in the 2006 and 2008 elections."

Mood swings AND delusions of grandeur.

"Bush is so dismayed that "the only person escaping blame is the President himself," said a sympathetic official, who delicately termed such self-exoneration "illogical."

His "illogical self-exoneration" is another symptom.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:29 AM
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25. NOW, he has a celebrated temper
During the election, the media told us he was the nicest guy in the world.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:09 PM
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113. yeah, so "Mr. People Person" has a nasty side!
And they had us believe that Clinton threw tantrums and Gore was mean to his staff. Well, I haven't heard nearly as many credible complaints about those guys, compared to what's been said about "Love to Have a Beer with Him" Bush, and he's barely into his 2nd term!

Even now they're back-pedalling -- "he only complains to senior staff because he knows they can take it" -- which doesn't really fit in with the fact that he takes it out on the underlings when someone's cell phone goes off unexpectedly. Personally, I suspect that he's the kind of boss who creates a "toxic work environment", and likes it that way.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:28 PM
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121. Capital Blue is looking more
and more credible.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:36 AM
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28. Just a big spoiled ass hole....
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:31 AM
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42. Those are the words I was thinking too.
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 08:31 AM by tabasco
An immature crybaby who was always handed everything on a silver platter. Now wittle baby throws a fit to make everything better and it's not working for him.


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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:41 AM
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29. This is a man who never should have made it any farther than
managing a McDonalds. Or selling used cars.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:00 AM
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34. I don't think bush
would be a good McDonald manager, though perhaps he could be an adequate shift manager. He wouldn't be a stellar manager.

Used car sales probably would be a fine career. The shallow, slimy "charm" at least fits the stereotype.

He thinks he is having troubles? He didn't get a call that his kid was killed or gravely injured this month. He is just another spoiled arrogant guy finally being called on failures he refuses to face. He's losing some of his illusions.

23 families lost so much more last week.
Their loss is a loss for us all.
bush's loss is our gain, the country's gain, the world's gain. Justice.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:27 AM
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41. Oh, I never said he'd be a GOOD manager. Just pointing out that
if he hadn't had his family's money and connections he would have been just another alcoholic bully.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:32 AM
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43. I know
but every now and then I need some french fries from McDonald's and I don't want him in charge.

OK...maybe better risk my fries then my country.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:14 PM
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87. he could sell aluminum siding
or backyard spas. There are 3 swarmy high-end (starting @ $3500) patio barbeque salesmen in the space next to our democratic booth @ the local swapmeet. The patter makes my skin crawl (much like * every time he opens his mouth).
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:41 PM
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124. Well, he's not qualified to clean cages at my cat hospital, AFAIAC.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:49 PM
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98. I've always said Shrub's not qualified to run the coat check room at Red L
Lobster.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:09 PM
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125. I've always pictured him running a little vendor shack at a stripmall...
and doing it poorly, with a hangover.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:13 AM
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39. I noted that as well
This really kills me...since when did his temper become "celebrated"? I mean, we always knew it was there. The press has allowed him to be presented as this jolly, easy-going fella who never would "chew anyone out". It seems they have skipped over the part where they actually report responsibly on this personality flaw, and now just acknowledge it as something everyone kinda just knows....sorry this just doesn't fly with me.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:13 PM
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86. They did that with the WMD lies, too.
When the Downing Street memo came out, they said there was no reason to report the evidence that the war was trumped up on lies, because everyone knew it all along anyway. No doubt the press knew it (and of course we did, because we were paying attention and not getting our news from the corporate media), but most Americans didn't know it, because the "news" sources they rely on weren't even hinting at that possibility.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:57 PM
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102. and ya know what?
Many Americans still don't know that the war was trumped up on lies. A lot of folks I talk to say, "Well, I haven't seen that in the news..I mean nothing definite, just lots of baseless accusations. There is no proof." It brings me to tears, honestly.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:30 PM
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92. like 'everyone knew' Newt was with an intern at same time he attacked
Clinton

when I heard this (after Newt quit, I think....or maybe later) I wanted to scream 'everyone DIDN'T KNOW this b/c YOU DIDN'T REPORT it' unlike 24/7 reporting on Clinton

self-centeredness of media and beltway--WE=EVERYONE and are the only ones who are important
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:15 PM
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114. as you say, mamalone -- it's always been there
They tried to sell him as a friendly, sweet-tempered guy who'd be fun to hang around with, but I don't think he's like that at all. Even when he's in a joking, smiling mood, he makes nasty little asides and expects people to laugh along with him. Not only would he not hesitate to talk about you behind your back (and that Pelosi film showed plenty of that) -- he's brazen enough to do it in front of you, and expect you to go along with it. The trademark of a bully -- and one whose moods can turn on a dime, if he thinks you've crossed him.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:56 PM
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115. "This is not some manager at McDonald's chewing out the help"
no, but it would make a lot more sense if it was.

Bush MIGHT prove a quasi-competent (albeit embarassingly obnoxious) McDonald's manager.

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:26 PM
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119. more like Shakespeare's "celebrated ape"
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:49 AM
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7. This means Capitol Hill Blue was right, again.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:37 AM
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11. That's just what I was thinking! ... eom
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:56 PM
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109. Speaking of CHB - Wonder if they had a fly on the wall this
weekend at Camp David? Well no matter, still a fun read.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7564.shtml

Senior White House officials over the weekend warned President George W. Bush to “prepare for the worst” in the ever-deepening Valerie Plame scandal, laying out a scenario that includes indictments of top officials and detailing a direct involvement by the Administration in a concentrated effort to destroy the credibility of Ambassador Joseph Wilson and then conceal the actions from investigators.

Chief of Staff Andrew Card cancelled a weekend schedule of appearances and events to spend the weekend with Bush at Camp David and deliver the bad news personally, White House insiders tell Capitol Hill Blue.

With indictments expected against Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Vice President Richard Cheney’s chief of staff, and possibly White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, Card told Bush that both will have to resign if the administration is to salvage any chance of recovering from the scandal.

“We’re hip deep in this and the sharks are circling,” Card told the President.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:10 PM
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126. I wonder if Andy Card wishes he had resigned after the election?
Maybe he will be encouraged to resign now if the media pester him enough.
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:50 AM
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8. Aw, wittle Chimpie is grouchy
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 03:53 AM by vanboggie
Somebody trying to take all his friends away. Where's that smirk your little Fundies love so much? You scared you're going to get caught with your monkey paw in the cookie jar, too?
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:21 AM
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9. Mr. Bush Jr. forgot the number #1 rule in ant business and that is
if somebody makes themselves irreplaceable, fire them. This is because a person in this position can only bring you grief, as we are now observing.

Another problem is when a person in a management position leaves for a short time and the process of this persons responsibility goes awry, that is a good sign of bad management policies.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:11 AM
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21. On a side note, your comment confirmed something I've
believed for quite some time. (Re: #1 rule of business).. I noticed my MIL has made the critical error in her own business. I don't have a business degree, so I wasn't sure I was right in thinking this.. but I saw the downward spiral of her business and attribute it to her "irreplaceable" right hand person. This person is taking EVERYONE down... and MIL won't listen. Oh well... I tried.

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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:21 PM
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89. Business is a funny thing, the success depends on luck and judgment
Having one person in your business (except in a one person business) as the key everything depends on that him/her, including the owner means the business is working that person and not the group endeavor. If that person fails in anyway, then the business will fail.

I do not know about your MIL (?), but both Mr. Bush Jr. and Mr. Cheney have had a series of failures. I do not think that is luck because of where they are today, so it must be judgment, another words they have no idea how to run a positive business. That is just my opinion on one aspect of success.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:35 AM
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10. aw -- i feel his pain...
not.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:38 AM
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12. President Apeshit
It's finallllly falling apart for him, and I'm digging it.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:41 AM
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13. WTF, big things? Like screw the rest of us?
Fuck Bush, I hope he goes down hard. Wait till you see the bruise he comes up with this time!
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:08 AM
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15. 'Big Things' refers to getting the high score on Donkey Kong. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:06 AM
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14. He's like the lion in winter????
Ha!!! More like a mangy cat who drank the dregs of a martini after a cocktail party, and who is now hucking up all over the persian carpet!!!

My favorite bit from the above cited work:

"This is not some manager at McDonald's chewing out the help," said a source with close ties to the White House when told about these outbursts. "This is the President of the United States, and it's not a pleasant sight."

It never is....!!!

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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:26 AM
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16. Bu$h has never been a pleasant sight. And never been my president.
The mass murderer of the United States should be this maggots title. He has a legacy of death and neglect for the real purpose of his job. That is Bu$h in a nutshell.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:35 AM
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18. More like a petulant child
thrashing about in his room because he is going to be spanked shortly.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:36 AM
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45. Or "Willful Child"
as Rev. Dobson would call him. Rev. Dobson would have beat him into submission at an early age.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:05 AM
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73. Welcome to DU! Yes. A VERY petulant, spoiled snot-nosed child.
I've been saying this for a long time. Hell, never mind the "I" part of it. WE ALL - EVERY ONE OF US HERE ON DU AND ELSEWHERE IN PROGRESSIVE AND WELL-INFORMED CIRCLES have been saying this for a long time. ALL of us. We were spot-on, even more than we realized. We knew it, even among those of us who weren't/aren't parents. It didn't take any master's degree in early childhood development or special education or psychology or ANYTHING. It just took common everyday horse-sense.

He IS a spoiled, coddled, petulant, snot-nosed child. A 57-year-old (or however-the-hell old he is) infant. ALWAYS got his own way. NEVER disciplined. NEVER forced to learn any lessons the hard way. NEVER had to get his own hands dirty. ANY mess he made, somebody else always cleaned up, or rescued him, or covered up for him, or bought him out, or transfered him out, or bailed him out, or kicked him upstairs, or wiped his butt, or otherwise made the problem or the fuck-up go away. That's how it's been for him, throughout his life, from the very beginning. Daddy's money and connections and power and influence and big-ticket, big-shot friends always were there to bail out his sorry ass and "take care of" whatever never-ending series of fuck-ups he could be counted on to keep making. THAT is what he learned in life. THAT is his life's lesson. That he can be as big a screw-up as humanly possible, and never have to face the consequences for it, because somebody else will always take care of it, fix it, and pull his ass out of a jam for him.

Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever. Not even that. He's finally reached his Peter Principle moment, where he's fucked up on such a colossal scale that there is no way to fix it. There's so much that he's fucked up by now that no amount of money, no amount of string-pulling, no amount of lipstick for the pig will work anymore. And he's just gonna have to eat the consequences. He's not just trashing his room in a pre-adolescent snit-fit anymore. He's ruined an entire country and who knows HOW MANY lives. No. He's ruined SEVERAL countries by now - not just ours.

Yeah, history will vindicate him, alright. Only if it's written by the Brothers Grimm.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:11 AM
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37. I was going to say "The alley cat w/o Friskies"
I particularly liked the parts about mange and ralphing on the rug! :hi:
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:27 AM
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17. "Frustrated... angry... and even bitter"?
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 06:28 AM by Enraged_Ape

"Taste of your own medicine, Doctor?"

Get used to it, Chimpy. I've been feeling that way for five fucking years.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:38 AM
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19. I hope Bush** lives a long life..
.... long enough to see his final delusion, that he made the "right decisions and long term history will bear that out", crumble like the rest of his sad self-deceptions.

No Mr. Bush, America will be suffering the repercussions of your incompetent leadership for DECADES and there will never be a time when your "vision" will be vindicated. Ever.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:56 AM
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82. I hope not.
I'd prefer he go the way of Mussolini and Ceausescu.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:05 PM
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85. I try...
... to keep my hopes and dreams within the realm of possibility. But I have no problem with those who dream big! :)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:10 AM
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20. For the first time in his life, things are not going his way.
He has always been able to call someone who fixed all his problems.
By changing official records and getting the slime machine to attack those speaking the truth about him. Or by giving Bush boatloads of money.

He may go on tilt over all of this. You can see his gross immaturity and lack of internal resources at work here. He never had to develop higher level coping skills because he never had to face much adversity. This is all new ground for him. He is still not facing reality. Responding with anger and blame rather than facing up to his difficulties and developing a rational coping strategy. And all of the folks who usually help him are either busy (Karen, Harriet) or distracted (Cheney, Rove etc.)

Whether there are indictments or not, Bush has taken a major hit psychologically, as have his minders. Research shows that stress is cumulative, not episodic and this means that even if by some miracle there are no indictments, great damage has been done to them. It may take only a bit more stress in the future for a total melt down.

We also know that typically, sociopathic narcissists do not decompensate. However they can and do when faced with severe consequences of their behavior. And we can see his decompensation in these kind of reports.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:51 PM
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99. When did things go his way? All his businesses failed, including
this one. He's always been a failure. Period.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:23 AM
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22. Shrub "Unhappy"? "Frustrated"? "Angry"?
HA! Double HA!
Welcome to our world, monkey-man!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:24 AM
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23. Will he ever crack in public?
It wouldn't be a pretty sight. Will his advisors allow him to do any more press conferences? It might just take one reporter to put a well-worded question and he'd explode in front of everyone.

Do you think they would ever medicate him to keep him on an even keel in public? (or already do?)
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:34 AM
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27. Will he ever smoke crack in public?
Ok, I just liked the way that looked on screen. Sorry for the Lounge-esqueness of it. Carry on.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:09 AM
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36. Uncontrollable & inappropriate anger another sign of too much nose candy
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:24 AM
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40. He ame close...
in one od the debates with Kerry. I wished then that Kerry had needled him just a little more because we would have seen his true colours....
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:28 AM
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24. My pleasure to give this threada much-deserved 5th vote!
Furious George!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:43 AM
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30. Bush couldn't BE a manager at McDonalds. They expect us to believe
Bush chastizes Cheney? That's rich!
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:48 AM
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31. He's like the lyin in Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.
I heard tell that Hitler wasn't real happy about the way things had gone just before he was defeated once and for all.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:52 AM
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32. Lyin' in winter...
That's a good one!

This article reads like someone's left handed effort at propping up El Presidente. They really are playing with their B team all around. Too bad they didn't have their B team working on the two election frauds in 2000 & 2004.

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:56 AM
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33. The Lion in Winter???????????? WTF
The Lion in Winter was Richard the Lionhearted, there's no comparison with Jr., a man who chokes on pretzels and is a chickenhawk through and through.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:11 AM
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38. Lyin' in winter, maybe?
All four seasons, actually.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:08 AM
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63. Touché!!!!!!!!!!!! N/T
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:33 AM
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44. I thought The Lion was meant to be Henry II
Richard's father, as he squabbles with his wife and 'pack of cubs', all trying to get or wield power themselves.

Richard does have a few similarities to Dubya (couldn't speak English properly, neglected his kingdom while fighting crusades in the Middle East, and the French), but he was undoubtedly brave; while Henry II did much to establish the English system of law.

Common Law - Birth of a State, Henry II and the Angevins

Royal legislation, referred to as assizes, was issued at Clarendon in 1166 and Northampton in 1176 in an effort to clamp down on serious offenders. Royal justices were to travel throughout the realm, and:

Inquiry shall be made throughout every county and every hundred, through twelve of the more lawful men of the hundred and through four of the more lawful men of each village upon oath ... whether there be ... any man accused or notoriously suspect of being a robber or murderer or thief.

These bodies of twelve are referred to as 'juries of presentment', and are the ancestors of the Grand Jury which survives in the U.S. legal system. Their accusations did not replace but rather supplemented the traditional form of prosecution where the victim, or a relative in cases of homicide, had to bring an individual accusation against the suspect.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/state/monarchs_leaders/henryii_law_01.shtml


(OK, they were still using trial by ordeal - no-one's perfect ;-) )
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:44 AM
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50. That's Henry II you're thinking of. I own the movie version of the play.
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 08:44 AM by Zynx
Henry II bears some resemblence to Bush, actually.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:33 AM
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67. Yes, once I cooled down I realized I haven't seen the movie in a long time
wasn't it the King who was with Eleanor of Aquitaine in the film version, is that Henry II? Isn't Richard the Lionhearted related in some way to Eleanor though, either her husband or her son. It's been a long time since I brushed up on my British royal history, pardon the mistake.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:04 PM
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84. Henry II
Henry II, by way of Eleanor of Aquitaine, was father to Richard Coeur de Lion, John, and Geoffrey (among others); and paramour to Fair Rosamund.
He was also the king of "Becket" infamy, which Tweety keeps alluding to, with Amb. Wilson in the Becket "role".
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:35 PM
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94. Richard the Lionhearted(who was a SOB) was Henry's son I think.
He was the product of Henry and Eleanor I believe. That whole family was fairly nasty.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:51 AM
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72. I loved the movie
but wasn't the "Lion" Richard's father, Henry II? Katherine Hepburn as Eleanor of Aquitaine was magnificent. Bush is no lion, and I love cats too much to compare him to an alley cat. He's some alien reptile, and we need a real human as president. We've had enough of him and his thugs.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:06 AM
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74. Thanks yes, I jumped ahead a bit in my history but you got my drift. The
noble comparison's for His Fraudulency just don't ring true. Now if they talked about the Monkey King in Winter, that I might find appropriate.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:01 AM
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35. We reap what we sow
And now it's your turn, Georgie-boy. :popcorn:
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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:35 AM
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58. But, he still doesn't get it, see quote below...
"Bush is so dismayed that "the only person escaping blame is the President himself," said a sympathetic official, who delicately termed such self-exoneration "illogical.""
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:37 AM
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46. How can ANYONE be so wrong about EVERYTHING, and still
feel he made the right decisions? Just how evil are the people that make up his inner circle?

We need to get down and understand who was behind the chaos economic theory he was following and what it involves because it will come up again.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:38 AM
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47. Maybe There IS SOMETHING to Those Reports in Capitol Hill Blue(?)
Remember those stories that were circulating that Chimpy was losing it and many dismissed them because they were reported in Capitol Hill Blue? Not saying they've been verified, but if stuff like this is leaking out, it's gotta be even worse.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:39 AM
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48. temper tantrums - old news...to us
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:43 AM
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49. "The Madness of King George"
Who else has seen that movie about George III? Perhaps the same thing is happening with our tyrant(who interestingly is the third U.S. president with the name George).
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:52 AM
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52. Perhaps he'll have a breakdown ?
Or would that be too much to hope for?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:56 AM
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53. Heh. He's no lion and it ain't winter yet. What he is is a naked emperor.
When are the Bushies going to realize that and stop making excuses for him?
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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:07 AM
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55. "President Bush is frustrated, sometimes angry and even bitter"
He is used to snapping his fingers and everyone jumping! He's now finally facing some reality and realizing there are things out of his control. Of course, he'll never admit to the extent that he is responsible for his own disasters.

The bubble around him is getting mighty thin these days.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:13 AM
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56. lion in winter? Ha!
More liek a petulant 5-year old.
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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:28 AM
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57. give me a frickin' break.
"He's like the lion in winter," observed a political friend of Bush.

This person actually has the audacity to compare Bush-the-Idiot-King with a term used for King Henry II? Shows you how deluded this Administration is with hubris.

Yeah ... and Rove is Becket. :eyes:
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:50 PM
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108. More like the Cowardly Lion in Winter. n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:05 PM
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111. Rove is not Becket
The troublesome priest role would be Wilson who must be rid off.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:36 AM
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59. Comparing him unfavorably to a lousy McDonalds manager. That's gotta hurt
"This is not some manager at McDonald's chewing out the help," said a source with close ties to the White House when told about these outbursts. "This is the President of the United States, and it's not a pleasant sight."
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:36 AM
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60. He's mean when he's drunk nt
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The Sleeper Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:40 AM
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61. As a manager of a McDonalds, I resent
the gratuitous mis-characterization that we would treat our employees with anything less than the respect that they deserve.

If anyone one attempted to get abusive, they would get more than fries with their shake.

Yes, the chimp isn't even welcome at the drive up window.....
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:47 AM
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71. I don't blame you
McDonalds trains the world in polite business behavior. I remember an amusing article about McD moving into Russia and training people to smile. It may have been more propaganda for the American Way, but my experience is that the servers and managers at McDonalds are FAR more professional than anything I've seen coming from **shrub.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:27 AM
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75. Welcome to DU! I'm sure the writer didn't mean to malign serious,
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 11:27 AM by calimary
legitimate, experienced, skilled, and hard-working people like you. If bush WERE ever a manager at McDonald's, it'd be the only honest day's work he would ever have put in. And that's probably about as long as he'd last - maybe a day or so.

Again, Welcome! Glad you're here with us!

And since you are, please start helping us...

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!

And then go DO something about it...
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:43 AM
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62. That's life, Georgie! Sometimes we ALL don't get our own way.
Get use to it. It's just the beginning...of Democracy...at last.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:15 AM
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64. Insider: He's "casting blame all about"


Bush is so dismayed that "the only person escaping blame is the President himself," said a sympathetic official, who delicately termed such self-exoneration "illogical."

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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:48 AM
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129. A classic symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissistic/dsm.htm

Narcissistic DSM IV Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
_____________

"Narcissism is fundamentally an advanced version of the splitting defense mechanism. The Narcissist cannot regard humans, situations, entities (political parties, countries, races, his workplace) as a compound of good and bad elements. He is an "all or nothing" primitive "machine" (a common self metaphor among narcissists). He either idealizes his object - or devalues it. The object is either all good or all bad. The bad attributes are always projected, displaced, or otherwise externalized. The good ones are internalized in order to support the inflated ("grandiose") self-concepts of the narcissist and his grandiose fantasies - and to avoid the pain of deflation and disillusionment. The Narcissist's earnestness and his (apparent) sincerity make people wonder whether he is simply detached from reality, unable to appraise it properly - or willingly and knowingly distorts reality and reinterprets it, subjecting it to his self-imposed censorship. It would seem that the Narcissist is dimly aware of the implausibility of his own constructions. He has not lost touch with reality. He is just less scrupulous in reshaping it, remolding its curvatures and ignoring the uncomfortable angles."

http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php/type/doc/id/419

Looks to me as if the President has definitely put the stamp of his personality on his administration.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:17 AM
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65. LOL!!
"I've got a job to do," he told reporters last week. "The American people expect me to do my job, and I'm going to."

:rofl:

Say, where'd the smirk go? Haven't seen it in a while. Wonder what happened?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:31 AM
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66. No, no, no. This IS some asst. manager at McDonalds chewing out the help
That's PRECISELY what he is: someone of limited abilities and grandiose self-image who is filled with bitterness and has no respect for others. Had he not been born into great wealth and power, he'd be lucky to be an assistant manager at a fast-food franchise; more likely, he'd be in jail now.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:29 PM
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91. only argument U get from me is...
'Had he not been born into great wealth and power' he would be sitting on execution row after being convicted as a serial killer.
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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:56 PM
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100. He is a serial killer
All we need now is the conviction.


Chris
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:36 PM
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107. I've called him Ted Bundy with money and too much power
for a long time. Sociopaths are like cancer. Dangerous but not very differentiated.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:45 AM
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68. Good...pile up that anger Mr. Pres. Internalize it. Store it up. PLEASE
I've been waiting for you to have a hypertensive crisis, which hopefully will blow-out one of those cocaine-weakened cerebal arteries. Alternatively, a nice case of gastric ulcers that fester and burn constantly would be fitting as well.

Feel the pain that you have caused our country and the family members of those who YOU HAVE KILLED in your megalomanical, modern-day Crusade.

Burn in hell, fucker.

B
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:31 AM
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76. Welcome to DU! I can't think of much more to add to that.
You've worded it (and articulated my own feelings) BRILLIANTLY!!!

LONG PAST TIME that he had to sit and stew in his own shit. But as my husband put it just a few minutes ago, the sad thing is that he's dragged all the rest of us into this morass with him.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:28 PM
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90. Thanks for the greeting...it's nice to be had. (n/t)
B
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:48 AM
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81. Noodley?....Welcome!!!Love your name!!!
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:32 PM
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93. Reference to Flying Spaghetti Monsterism...wikipedia it for more info.
All references to a satirical religious sect that is fighting for inclusion in school science curriculums under the "intelligent design" movement. Essentially, we are twisting the hidden bible-thumper agenda behind "intelligent design" to reveal how STUPID and non-scientific the idea is in the first place.

B
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:39 PM
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103. Brilliant post. Glad you're on our team
Welcome!!!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:47 AM
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70. Widdle *bush pitching a hissy?
Say it ain't so!

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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:44 AM
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77. I know what he needs to do
He needs to just give up and resign...let the democrats handle it from here before it gets even worse!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:46 AM
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79. The spoiled little brat with a silver spoon doesn't get his way?
Tisk tisk........F*ck him!!!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:47 AM
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80. And people here dismissed the Capitol Hill Blue account of this..
Sometimes there are gems of truth in even the most supsect of sources. Sounds like there was a mine of truth in earlier reports.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:15 PM
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88. His facial expressions range from toddler to five-year-old.
Spoiled little whiney BRAT!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:38 PM
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95. Nay nay nay nay nay nay .... ha ha ha ha ha ha
BA to you bushitler!
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:41 PM
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96. Surely they couldn't write this trash with a straight face...
They describe him as beset but unbowed, convinced that history will vindicate the major decisions of his presidency even if they damage him and his party in the 2006 and 2008 elections.


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:56 PM
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101. You mean he's not King and when he speaks thou shall do it or
off with your head!!!

Accountability is a Bitch!!!
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:44 PM
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105. Don't taunt the monkey, Johnny! (nt)
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:28 PM
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106. texas yellowbelly.
the rothchilds are thinking of replacing you.
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:01 PM
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110. Junior can't show up the old man anymore....
At least Bush Senior's presidency didn't go down in flames while he was in there. I think this crisis is going to take more than a few calls from Daddy to escape
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:06 PM
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112. just had to add....nice picture of georgie ROFL
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 05:06 PM by twaddler01
:rofl:
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:58 PM
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116. "The darkest days of his presidency"...
Are going to be the ones in the unlit cell in the Hague.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:17 PM
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117. He's just a colicky little baby.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:26 PM
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118. bush wanted to kill more
innocent people ..how the hell can he do that when everything he's done so far has turned to SHITE?
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:37 PM
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123. Poor Chimpy...
Awwwwwwwwwwwww :nopity:



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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:17 AM
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127. He's bitter (???)
he has no right to be bitter he has gotten everything he wanted. :wtf: It's the people that have a right to be bitter for what he has done to our country! :grr:
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