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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:57 AM
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Political surprise brews in Kansas (repub DA to switch to Dem, run for AG)
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 11:04 AM by Pirate Smile

Political surprise brews in Kansas
Morrison poised to switch parties to challenge Kline


By JIM SULLINGER and DIANE CARROLL

The Kansas City Star
Paul Morrison, Johnson County's Republican district attorney for the last 16 years, is expected to announce today that he is a candidate for Kansas attorney general.

Morrison will switch parties and run as a Democrat, according to a political source who has spoken to Morrison. Two other sources confirmed his decision.

-snip-
"I'm trying to think of when I've heard of something like this," said Kevin Yowell, an Overland Park political consultant. "I don't know that I've ever heard of this around here. It's not uncommon for a Democrat to switch to Republican. But for an entrenched officeholder to leave the GOP to become a Democrat, I am just stunned."

-snip-
So far, no major Democratic contender has come forward.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/12988949.htm


He would be running against Phil Kline in the General Election. Here is a Diary from Daily Kos which gives a little info on Kline:


GOP DA switches parties, will challenge Kline
by RBH
Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 08:08:54 AM PDT

-snip-
What will this mean?

For one thing, Kline will have some serious competition here. Morrison is also from the general area that Phill is from (The Kansas side of the KC area).

Kline, for the uninformed, has done such things as trying to get lists of women who have had abortions so he could check lists for girls who are under 18.

Basically, he's one of the more conservative people in Kansas.

Morrison choosing to swerve past the bi-annual "Traditional Republican v. Fundy Right-Winger" ritual puts him in a good position. With enough votes from dissenting Republicans, a Democrat can win election in Kansas.

So, why did DA Morrison join the Democratic Party?

"Morrison said he chose to run as a Democrat - despite warnings from some that it wasn't the smartest political move in a largely Republican state - because he believes the Democratic Party is better focused on public safety issues."

Mr. Morrison, Welcome to the Party! (and we have enough room for any other Republicans who are sick of their party's leadership)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/25/11854/337


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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:58 AM
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1. Let's hope this is a sign of things to come.
Perhaps the Dem.-to-Rethug trend will be flippeded as the universe realigns...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:19 AM
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2. Unless the guy has shown signs of leaning Democratically, I would
say not to be too happy by the trend. I've seen too many people run for the Democratic party in my county who had very, very close ties to the Republican good ole boys. They didn't win because this is a Republican county, but it gave everyone the appearance that they had a choice, and besides, I think they ran because they feared that polls were trending Democratically. They're just covering their bases.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:22 AM
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3. Exactly...
We have plenty of DINOs already.
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pattycake Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:01 PM
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7. Remember this is Kansas!
Where Democrats don't even run in all the races. Any kind of baby steps should make all Dems happy!
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:16 PM
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23. Welcome to DU pattycake
:hi: :toast:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:20 AM
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25. Thanks for enlightening me
on the situation in Kansas. It's like Tx, sometimes a DINO is the best we can do. With a little time and numbers...we can take them out back of the big tent and bitch slap some DEM principals into them ;). Welcome pattycake.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:28 PM
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9. Given that he'd be running against a Neanderthal, I see it as positive
Better a DINO (or a RINO for that matter) than a theocrat, if those are the options; and apparently in Kansas that's pretty much how it's gonna be, so...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:24 AM
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4. Is he switching becasue democrats are polling better or is he sincere?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:32 AM
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5. it's Kansas
I doubt Democrats are polling very well there

but the governor is running pretty much unopposed and if they can get rid of the moran AG there, more power to them and if they're a DINO, oh well

better than the fascist sitting in that office now
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:54 PM
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12. I agree...
If the choice is between a DINO and what is really a whacked out fundy, I'd take the DINO. It's a baby step, but at least it's in the right direction. Right as in correct direction, that is.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:54 PM
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17. and the current AG is a whacked out fundo
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:21 PM
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20. There are too many of those already
I'll swear, for a country that was able to put a man on the moon, how have we gone downhill so fast? Are that many of us that batshit crazy, that we let the religious fundies rule everything? This has been such a depressing episode in history for me. I was born during WWII, and growing up, thought we would be so advanced by now.

Instead, the right-wingers are taking us backwards in education, in separation of church and state, and in common sense. I still have trouble coping with the realization that Bush is president. I thought we had hit bottom with Reagan, but I was wrong.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:55 AM
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6. So, that is the big news story
I don't turn the tube on until very late in the day and haven't read the paper yet. Yesterday they were teasing this announcement on the news, I don't care who takes on kline, anyone would be an improvement.
He is a neanderthal knuckle dragger that came in with the creationist movement, if morrison can get him to the dustheap more power to him.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:30 PM
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8. will he actually be a democrat or will we just
have another DINO. On the face of it, I don't like this. Say you're one thing while being another...Ralph Nadir comes to mind. :shrug:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:34 PM
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10. What's the Matter with Kansas?
Apparently, we know what the matter with Kansas is now, and Kansans are taking "babysteps" towards changing it.

Reality....It's not just for atheists anymore!
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:42 PM
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11. Welcome Abroad
we will welcome anyone who comes to their senses!

"Come into the light, time to leave the dark-side"

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Red1 Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:05 PM
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13. Absolutely
Kline reminds me of a fred phelps wanna be.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:29 PM
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14. My Mom said that local talk radio was discussing this guy - before
today he was a tough guy but now, all of sudden, nope, not so tough. Typical RW BS.

People unfamiliar with Kansas need to know that the real race or campaign is generally the Republican Primary - it is the "Traditional Republican v. Fundy Right-Winger" battle that is the main fight in Kansas.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:29 PM
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15. Hopefully, the GOP will be in for more stunning in the future.
Kline is so far right that moderate Republicans must be horrified; but they have little chance in GOP primaries.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:53 PM
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16. Now this could get interesting!
Kline is an extreme RW nutjob, a Sam Brownback in training. If he has a well-known opponent, we might be able to get him out of there.

As for a Kansas politician switching from R to Dem ... I hope it's the beginning of a trend, not just one isolated instance. Even if it is one isolated instance, I think hell just froze over. :evilgrin:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:00 PM
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18. We have a Supervisors race with the challenger...
running as both a Dem. & Rep. He was backed by the Dem's originally after he gave up his County Legislature seat. He is seeking to replace a Bushbot like Rep. Supervisor who thinks he is a dictator. A group of Dem's & Rep's. got together and formed a group determined to overthrow the present supervisor. They ran in a primary and he beat the current supervisor by almost 3-1. The current supervisor is still on the ballot with Conservative endorsement. I think he might be a little uncomfortable because he has given time to both parties. He hasn't totally endorsed the other members of the slate, perhaps to keep the peace. I strongly suspect the Dem slate will capture at least one seat and perhaps another position. Whatever he was the best hope to defeat the tyrant and both Dems & Reps saw that. He has run before as a Dem. but changed back to Rep. This race has certainly shaken up the east end of my county.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:02 PM
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19. Breaking.... Wolf Buys Sheep Suit.
Maybe? I don't trust it when someone switches parties to run for something. He should have switched 5 years ago.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:08 PM
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21. Like the Democrats in the 1960s, the GOP is the breaking up.
People forget the Democratic Party from FDR to LBJ was a combination of the following:
1. Southern Conservative Democrats (Who opposed desegregation)
2. Labor unions and other inner city workers(Who tended to be Social Conservatives but Economic Liberals).
3. African-Americans (Who Supported Civil Rights but preferred Economic Liberalism to Social Liberalism))
4. Women who supported Women Rights (Tend to be one issue but leaned to Social Liberalism)).
5. Economic Liberals who supported Government intervention to help people.
6. Social Liberals who believed in Liberal Social agenda (Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Religion, etc).

FDR had forced together the above to form his "Democratic Coalition). The Coalition was built on the ground work of William Jennings Bryan who advocacy of Open Government, regulation of Business, and support for the economic disadvantaged brought into the Democratic Party the Labor unions, African Americans (Through most would not become democrats till the 1930s) Economic and Social Liberals while maintaining the South and its tendency to Fundamentalism.

In the 1960s Nixon Adopted his "Southern Strategy" which was basically to take Southern Democrats from the Democrats and switch them to the GOP. The key was the following:

1. Use Roe vs Wade to convince Socially Conservative but Economically Liberal Democrats to vote Republican.
2. Keep Suburban republicans voting GOP for the Tax cuts, while making sure such Suburbanites fear of losing the Right to have an Abortion is Minimized by making sure Roe vs Wade is constantly upheld.
3. Keep the Rural North GOP by advocating opposition to Gun Control While making sure no actual test case gets to the US Supreme Court (This also works on the Rural South), like the Rural South this has to be balanced with the desire of the Rural North For Rural Improvements.
4. Convert the Democrats in the Rural South to switch to the Republican Party using the Rural South's fear of Gun Control, Opposition to Abortion, and Fear of Blacks to overcome the Rural South desire for Rural Improvements (even if paying for such improvements meant raising taxes).
5. Maintaining the Base of the GOP which is big business which wants to cut taxes, use what taxes raised to help business only, use government to keep labor costs down and maintaining Social Order with minimal taxes.
6. Keep the Suburban Middle Class happy by giving them Tax cuts, access to education and abortion on Demand.

A quick look over the list and you see the contradictions and conflicts within the GOP. Like the Democrats in the 1960s these conflicts are coming to a head. Rural Religious Leaders (and other Fundamentalist and Catholics) are demanding that Bush appoint a person to the Supreme Court who will over turn Roe vs Wade. If Roe is Overturned Suburban members of the GOP will vote on that issue even if that means voting for a Democrat.

Another Conflict is Gun control. Big Business wants Government or Big Business to be the only group that has access to the use of Force. Rural America wants to retain its access to such force. While the GOP "oppose" Gun Control when such opposition comes into conflict with big business Bush wants to go with Big Business (Look at what happen in New Orleans, private Security guards could go in, but the Police were confiscating guns from private individuals). If the Rural population (both North and South) ever start to Believe that the GOP will NOT oppose Gun Control (Or the Supreme Court rules Gun Control is forbidden by the Second Amendment), the Rural Population will start to Vote Democratic for at least then the Rural South will get some internal Improvements which the GOP opposes.

"Internal Improvements" is another area of conflict. Big Business only wants such improvements if it helps big business, Rural America wants it to help them. Big Business is willing to give up on Government paid Internal Improvements for Tax Cuts, Rural America would prefer Tax Increases to pay for such Improvements Just look at the recent Highway bill as an example, the GOP failed in getting it reduced in any meaningful way).

My point in the above is that the GOP coalition is breaking up. The internal Conflicts are getting to big to be contained. Just like the Rural South Left the Democrats over Civil Rights in the 1960s I see the Rural North doing the same to the Republicans over the need for tax increases to help improve Rural America (And the Rural South will follow the Rural North in going Democratic).

The Religious rights support of the GOP over Abortion means the GOP will have to deliver, but such a delivery will cost the GOP many suburban voters (Suburban Voters will prefer to retain both tax cuts and the right to Abortion, but given a choice will opt for Abortion rights over Tax Cuts).

In 1964 Storm Thurmond switch from the Democratic Party to the GOP. Throughout the South this continued either by Individuals switching parties (As in Thurmond case) or by a Democrat being replaced by a Republican (either when the Democrat retired or by Defeating the incumbent Democrat). People where still doing this in the 1990s (Through it seems to have run its course by 2000). Now you always have people switching parties but as a general rule such switches are rare and since 2000 the number of Democrats turning Republican have approached what is considerer's "Normal" in such switches (i.e. the switch to the GOP from the Democrats was finished).

On the other hand if you look at both parties, the Democrats have the strongest base it has had since the time of William Jennings Bryan. It is a solid base with the parts willing to work together to get someone elected. Now to complete this transformation we need another Bryan, someone who can electrify the population and get the vote out. Such a person will be attacked by the Republicans like all such Democratic Leaders have been since William Jennings Bryan

Dean so far looks like the next Bryan, someone to lead and transform the Party into something that will win a majority of Votes but the point I am trying ot make is that the Democrats are in the position the GOP was in the 1960s, ready to expand, while the GOP is in the same position the Democrats were in the 1960s, Dividing up along well know fault lines (The Social vs Economic Liberal agenda class, Keeping the US Militarily Strong vs making sure the US does NOT become an imperialistic power, Labor demanding protection from business and business demanding advantageous over labor).

All the Democrats need to do to get its Majority quickly is for the Supreme Court to rule Abortion is NO protected under the US Constitution (Shifting the debate on Abortion to the States where both parties will have to address it) and that Gun Control is constitutional but only as to pistols not to Rifles, Shotguns or larger weapons (Which will keep the Rural North Happy for they are more concerned over their deer rifles than Pistols, the Rural South will take longer having a big fixation over pistols). I do NOT see either occurring for the GOP knows such decisions would be a kiss of Death for them. What I do see occurring is a slow conversion of Rural Northern Republicans to Democrats based on Corruption of the GOP, than the greater willingness for Democrats to Raise taxes to solve problems. I also see more and more Suburban types voting Democratic (For example Kerry won the Suburban Bedroom Counties of Pennsylvania next to Philadelphia, a group of voters always assumed to vote Republican).

This is why I think Paul Morrison switched parties, he sees this switch occurring. All he has to do as a Democrat is to oppose Gun Control and say he will oppose Abortion, he would have neutralized all of the GOP strength in Kansas while providing the Voters a Democratic Candidate with all that being a Democrat means.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:02 PM
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22. kick
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 09:33 AM
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24. The wind has shifted in Kansas
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 09:36 AM by Jose Diablo
I do believe people in Kansas have detected the stench of a dead skunk in the road coming from the Republican party.

Edit: I'd say the Dem activists in Kansas should gut this guy in the primary. Why allow the stink from the repuks into the Democratic party?
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