Bush Says War in Iraq Isn't Cause of Rising Terrorism

[kurth]

Oct. 25 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush, confronting criticism of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, said the conflict there hasn't spurred the spread of terrorism and a withdrawal won't end the threat from violent extremists. With the number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq approaching 2,000 and public support for the war declining, Bush told a gathering of military spouses today that radicals were spreading their ideology before the March 2003 invasion and will ``exist after Iraq is no longer an excuse.''

``Some have argued that extremism has been strengthened by the actions of our coalition in Iraq, claiming that our presence in that country has somehow caused or triggered the rage of radicals,'' Bush said at a luncheon for more than 500 wives of military officers at Bolling Air Force Base in Washington. ``I would remind them that we were not in Iraq on Sept. 11.'' ...

Americans increasingly are questioning the wisdom of the U.S.-led invasion. For the first time, a majority of Americans in a Wall Street Journal/Harris Interactive poll said going to war in Iraq was a mistake, the Journal reported today. The 53 percent who held that view marked an increase from 49 percent in September and 43 percent a year ago. The online poll of 1,833 adults taken Oct. 11-17 has an error margin of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.

For Iraq there will be ``no peace without victory,'' Bush said. If the U.S. backs down the extremists will have a base of operations from which to spread their violent ideology, he said. The president also renewed his warning to Syria and Iran, countries that he said are ``allies of convenience'' with Islamic radicals and seek ``to blame their own failures on the West, on America and on the Jews.'' Syria and its leaders, he said, ``must be held accountable'' for supporting terrorism and for any involvement in the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aduP_7xj9mig&refer=us

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Yeah, right. What a freakin' liar.

[tavalon]

1. Bush announces water isn't wet

Further details tonight on Faux "News", We Decide, You Comply.

[DaveColorado]

3. War is Peace

Freedom is slavery

[Orsino]

2. He's actually admitting that terrorism is on the rise?

Somehow I doubt that.

[thinkingwoman]

4. Bush says sun coming up is NOT

why days are warmer than nights. :eyes:

[Lautremont]

5. There's a name for this kind of logical fallacy, I would imagine:

'``Some have argued that extremism has been strengthened by the actions of our coalition in Iraq, claiming that our presence in that country has somehow caused or triggered the rage of radicals,'' Bush said at a luncheon for more than 500 wives of military officers at Bolling Air Force Base in Washington. ``I would remind them that we were not in Iraq on Sept. 11.'' ...'

Or you could just call it irrelevant bullshit.

[ninkasi]

12. And I would remind him..

that Iraq was not involved in 9-11. Does this idiot truly believe that by destroying Iraq, killing and maiming Iraqis, we are NOT creating new enemies? The only bigger idiots than him are his supporters. I have wondered myself, when some new terrorist a few years from now decides to rally supporters, whether their selling points will include..."Remember the lessons of Falluja"?

He is a complete disaster as a president, and a complete failure as a human being. The sooner he and his cronies are out of office, and out of power, the better for the world. I hope that we will be able to regain enough seats in both houses of the Congress in 2006 to prevent some of his more radical policies.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Imagine spewing that crap to spouses. They should have turned away

as soon as he opened his mouth.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. A Rummy speaks on the subject.....

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1022-01.htm


Rumsfeld says the schools, known as madrassas, may be churning out new terrorists faster than the United States can kill or capture them.

[patrice]

8. I'm confused.

If "radicals" struck us on Sept 11, before we went to Iraq, and if radicals will ``exist after Iraq is no longer an excuse'' why is the war on Iraq part of the war on Terrorism? How can anyone say these soldiers are fighting for our "Freedom"?

[ed murrow]

9. Ignorance is Strength

The Newspeak is a little disturbing

[tavalon]

11. Because catapulting the propoganda is more important

than telling the truth. The house of cards comes down if they admit that one. Of course, the house of cards is coming down anyway.

[yorkiemommie1]

10. and the moon is made of green cheese

n/t

[Freedom_from_Chains]

13. Well of course

Everyone knows that it is liberalism that has caused the rise in terrorism. Sheesh.

[Fairlyunbalanced]

15. Viva El Presidente!

:eyes:

"Everyone knows that it's the homos, working women, and non christians living in our christian america, oh and the brown people... and while we're at it "He-Man" and his homo-heroic liberal brainwashing, that brought us to this juncture in history.

If it wasn't for cardigan sweaters and listerine, q-tips would never be so common in teh American home."


See guys, without a good dose of fear, nonsense has no impact.

When Rove is someone's D-Block Sweetmeat, I imagine that his speeches will go something like the above :bounce:

[LynnTheDem]

14. bush LIES again.

Worldwide terrorism-related deaths on the rise
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5889435%20 /

US Losing the War on Terror in Iraq; The invasion of Iraq has increased, not decreased. the threat of terrorist attack
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2629.html

Occupation Made World Less Safe, Pro-War Institute Says
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2004/0526iissreport.htm

Iraq Invasion Hurt War on Terror
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-10.htm

Musharraf: World more dangerous because of Iraq War
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/25/03544/7945

Blix Says Iraq War May Have Worsened Terror Threat
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0319-02.htm

Poll: Aussies, Brits, Italians say Iraq war increased terrorism
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/5027215.html

Iraq intervention increased threat of terrorism
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/c7/9d/200409100845.68f9c878.html

UK Government; Iraq war 'increased terror threat'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3451239.stm

Iraq war has swollen ranks of al Qaeda
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1063717,00.html

US State Department Corrects Report to Show Rise in Terrorism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5264512 /

Iraq has become a terrorist spawning ground, CIA admits
http://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Iraq-a-terrorist-spawning-ground-CIA-admits/2005/02/17/1108609349394.html?oneclick=true

Iraq Conflict Feeds International Terror Threat
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050216/us_nm/security_usa_dc_9

Iraq now a terror training center
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/canada_security_canada_iraq_col

[teryang]

24. Great post!

The big lie exposed again.

[Mokito]

16. BREAKING NEWS: Bush doesn't understand the principle of catalysts

nt

[whosinpower]

17. So then.....

According to THE MAN HIMSELF.....the war in Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terrorism!

Let that sink in for a moment.......

Why is the US there again???????????????

[bunny planet]

18. Oh well then, if he says it, it must be true.

:silly:

[BadGimp]

19. Hollowman speaks only to be ignored

Seems no one cares what he says anymore..

[WinkyDink]

20. AND IRAQ WASN'T HERE!!

OMG!! I hate this moran SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

[BattyDem]

21. There are terrorists in Iraq, where there were none before.

That fact alone means that terrorism has spread as a result of the invasion. :eyes:

[DemoTex]

22. There are those who believe this Bu$hit.

Seven, at last count. Three of those are "iffy."

[salin]

23. Sorry George, when your crebility is shot with most of the public,

and common sense and paying even the least amount of attention to the news says otherwise... the orwellian attempts at spin - just no longer work. Worse, sometimes the efforts themselves become news - and the whole thing backfires on you.

Too bad you have insulated yourself so much from news, and from regular folks opinions (and reactions to your spin) that you seem to have no idea that the context has changed, and that these attempts no longer work.

Good luck with this spin - you are going to need it.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

25. He's right...

His prolonged illegal occupation of the White House is really to blame.

[CRK7376]

26. He must be smoking

Crack or some kind of Wacky Weed if he thinks that War in Iraq isn't cause of Rising Terrorism! What a dope. Get our guys and gals out of Iraq, let them stabilize or self destruct....Bush is an idiot.

[saigon68]

27. he's probably hitting the SAUCE again

[HuffleClaw]

28. iraq 911 iraq 911 iraq 911 iraq 911 iraq 911 iraq 911

geeze. the poor guy needs a new speechwriter. this stuff is soooo old. really, he's just going through the motions these days.

[Mr_Spock]

29. YEAH, like anybody cares what that DUMB ASS is saying anymore.

STFU Bush - nobody wants to hear you babbling in public anymore.

Go get drunk and sit in the corner. And SHUT THE FUCK UP until I tell you that you are allowed to speak. Kids :eyes:

[beardown]

30. We were in Iraq

Uh, George, we were in Iraq then. We were enforcing the no fly zones and I believe we were doing it outside of the UN authorization. The no fly zones helped the Kurds maintain control over the northern part of Iraq which is where some of the terrorists were located that the reich wingers keep screaming about that were in Iraq before we invaded.
We were enforcing an embargo which had a hand in causing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, mostly kids. We were doing it because we said that Saddam hadn't disarmed while we had reliable reports from our own inspectors and UN inspectors that Saddam had disarmed, but it was politcally expedient to keep claiming Saddam was the M.E.'s Hitler.
And after all this, I don't get the impression that the average Iraqi hated us, at least to the point that they do now where they hate us so that they have to wait in line to get a suicide bombing mission.
We were also still maintaining troops in Saudi Arabia which is a specific point of contention for Osama.
Bush's comment is such a fantastic combination of stupidity and ignorance that it's almost brillant in that you don't know where to start to refute it.

[killbotfactory]

31. Everything he says should be prefixed with:

"Despite mountains of evidence to the contrary"