Governor's Sole Supporter is Attacked at (anti-Schwarzenegger) Rally

[Maddy McCall]

The video of the attack was played on CBS 2. There is nothing in print yet, but as soon as there is, I'll update.

Right now, though, here's this news item, in video form.

http://cbs2.com/video/?id=[e-mail]

[bluestateguy]

1. That lady shouldn't have been there

She brought it all on herself.

[Maddy McCall]

4. Yeah, I kinda thought so, too.

She was disrupting a rally AGAINST Schwarzenegger's initiatives. It would be like DU holding a rally for something, and a lone freeper showing up and screaming opposition talking points.

[toopers]

60. Yeah, just like a woman who wears a skirt too short . . .

she deserves to be raped. She brought it on herself. Or the man who has a nice car and drives into the wrong neighborhood . . . he deserves to have his car stolen! GIVE ME A BREAK!

[bertha katzenengel]

65. thank you, toopers n/t

[donco6]

66. Not at all.

More like shouting fire in a crowded theatre and wondering why she got trampled.

[DS1]

61. I'll remember that if anything ever happens to Cindy Sheehan

:eyes:

[cynatnite]

2. Well, I'm not an Ahhnold fan, but that woman deserves her to be heard...

just like anyone else. I don't agree with how they treated her.

And, yes, she is misguided...I actually feel sorry for her.

[Maddy McCall]

3. I wonder if she is some kind of Phil Parlock plant.

[Democat]

6. One person got as much coverage as the entire rally in that clip!

She deserves to be heard? That clip gives equal coverage to the viewpoint of one person as the viewpoint of all of the other people there combined.

Do you think the media would do that if the roles were reversed? :(

[cynatnite]

10. If people had just ignored her like she wasn't there...

then the only story would have been the rally.

We don't have to like what people say...it doesn't give us the right to silence them because it's not the same as ours.

This is the kind of shit that freaks like Hannity, Rush and Coulter jump on. Freedom of speech becomes their best friend and it's used to smear the rest of us because we're accused of keeping people from exercising their right.

[gardenista]

13. In a perfect world, that is what would have happened. The problem is that

the unions in CA are being threatened in a huge way by this proposition. The union members are our teachers, nurses, and firefighters, who have already been cut to the bone. Emotions run high.

You're right that this will be exploited by the RW media. It already has been, and it will make national news tomorrow, becuase it's juicy.

But I guarantee you that it was a deliberate attempt to instigate a confrontation. It's a shame that the organizers didn't have better control over the crowd.

[cynatnite]

15. No one knows if this was deliberate...

If it was and this girl was there for the pure purpose to disrupt the rally, I'll be the first to say I was wrong.

I have no doubt that what's happening to the unions in CA is a disgrace. I admit to not knowing much about it, but given how hard they are fighting for what's rightly theirs, I will take their side over Ahhnold's any day of the week.

[gardenista]

18. Here ya go. Thanks to MM's research we now know that she's a

freeper. Got pix to prove it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2187479&mesg_id=2187532

[cynatnite]

21. No surprise she's a freeper...

big deal. I'm not sure how this proves anything you've asserted.

[Maddy McCall]

24. I wonder if the whole thing was Parlocked.

IOW, staged, but got out of hand.

[cynatnite]

36. Now that could be...

That makes a lot of sense. It got out of hand, that's for sure.

[gardenista]

25. I proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was there solely to disrupt

she was not there to "express her opinion".

She is obviously not a union member.

She could easily have "expressed her opinion" at a respectful remove from the main rally.

You are a kinder and more tolerant person than I am. I probably would have ripped up her sign, too.

[lwin]

28. She brags over at Freep about getting on the news...she's a tool

and a groupie..

[Maddy McCall]

32. Yeah, it would have been difficult for me to show restraint.

The superego side of me would know that it was wrong, but the id side of me would have thrown caution and propriety to the wind and grabbed that sign.

[gardenista]

7. Don't. She was paid well for her service, trust me.

She intended for this to happen, and she made sure the cameras were there to capture the whole thing.

Remember what happened to anti-Bush infiltrators inside the GOP convention hall? This was a cake-walk in comparison.

[cynatnite]

11. Do you have proof she was paid? n/t

[gardenista]

12. Do you have proof she wasn't?

She was there for the sole purpose of acting out this drama for the cameras.

Just like Delay's staffers in that Florida ballot room, pretending to be enraged Floridians.

[cynatnite]

14. You're the one making the accusation...

You're basing it on assumptions by comparing to the fiasco in Florida when in fact there is no relation.

Look at it this way:

If this was a solitary dem at a pro-Ahhnold rally and people got pissed at her for showing up with her signs, declaring they were all lied to and she was there to speak what she believed, then they converged on her, tore up her signs and got in her face, DU would be outraged.

There would be rants about how she was being denied her right to exercise her right to speak out.

People on this thread are advocating that she doesn't have a right based on the fact that it doesn't agree with what they think.

I advocate that ANYONE has a right to say what they think whether we agree with it or not. That's why I view this differently than most. We may hate the message, but it's no excuse to stop someone from exercising their right.

[gardenista]

16. She's a proud Freeper, and was intentionally pushing for a confrontation

Frankly, I don't think anyone at DU would be so rude.

She has plenty of opportunities to speak out at Ahnuld's town hall meetings. I'm sure she has attended plenty of them, given her paid-in-full freeper membership.

[cynatnite]

20. Considering this was all we saw of her...

there's nothing to say you're right or wrong.

Either way, she has a right to voice her misguided and very wrong opinion. :)

[joefree1]

27. I have proof that she was paid ... or will be paid

Aunald's initiatives are intended to muzzle the working class to benefit his coporate buddies. She was there because she will benefit if his scam plan passes. She was there to disrupt the rally. She was casusing a disruption by the stage in full view of the cameras not protesting off to the side. They sent a lone women in to start a confrontation.

They are that desperate.



on edit see #19, definitely a shill for the corporate class.

[gardenista]

30. It will be interesting to watch poor little Gene Vieve's career to see if

you might be right on the money.

I think you are.

[cynatnite]

34. Where's the proof other than your belief?

I don't doubt their desperation, but to send a lone person into a crowd that size seems little out there for me to buy into. How was this one woman going to muzzle them? The report did cover the rally and didn't just focus on her.

It just seems rather stupid to send one solitary person into a group of Union members.

[gardenista]

37. Sorry, you're not getting it. The ONLY reason she was there was to

disrupt.

[lwin]

39. yep

They always send the minimum number of people to any rally...they know they only need one disrupter to get the press coverage, which is what they are all about.

[joefree1]

54. I am very familiar with the freepers here in Los Angeles

We see them often coming to our permitted rallies to trying to disrupt us. Here's a picture of them at our anti-war march. You'll notice it's a screen shot of the Free Republic web site. They hijacked the picture from my web site so I changed it and took the screen shot before they could delete the picture (it took them a while).


David is the guy with the cowboy hat and the Superman costume trying to disrupt our march with his hate rethoric shouted over a bullhorn.

If you following the post on this page then you must realized that these kind of people are serial disrupters of anything Democratic.

But this time it's in vain.

[Maddy McCall]

56. Who are those guys in those very familiar orange and yellow vests?

Look kinda like the vest worn by the "security guard" that ripped the sign out of Genevieve's hands.

Hmmmmm.

[gardenista]

35. Here's your proof.

http://thirdplanet.tv/la4bush/NextMeeting.htm

She is a paid political organizer, a Repuke operative.

[cynatnite]

40. I think she's a lone misguided freeper...

She had no business being there...that I do agree with, but I'll never go along with what happened when it came to tearing up her signs and the attempt to keep her from speaking her piece.

I think it got out of hand, but it didn't disrupt the rally.

[gardenista]

45. I'm so sorry, but that is just not true. She is an organizer in L.A.

She had no "piece" to say. She was only there to instigate a confrontation for the cameras.

She was able to pull the focus of the rally onto her, and to prevent the people who were there legitimately, who paid for the permits, the bullhorns, the porta-potties, the security, from getting full and fair coverage from the media.

She succeeded.

[Democat]

5. The California media is campaigning for Arnold

That clip is so biased in favor of Arnold, as is most California media.

The right wing California media attacked Davis all of the time and now they defend Arnold as much as they attacked Davis.

[Maddy McCall]

8. Since I don't live in California, I'm not aware of all of the media....

dynamics. Not aware of biases, either.

[mrdmk]

17. Arnold is a media darling out here and it is not bad, but blatant

During the recall campaign every newscast in the Los Angeles area opened with 5 to 7 minutes of Arnold and the crowds happy to see him. None of the other candidates received that coverage. This is the reason people want the fairness doctrine reinstated.

When Arnold was shown in Long Beach today did they show the 500 persons standing outside the facility protesting his appearance and initiatives. No, the newscast just showed the one women at a union rally attempting to disrupt the proceedings for the cameras.

The good news is people here are watching less T.V. and they certainly do not like Arnold.

[gardenista]

9. You got that right.

That entire report was masterfully edited to make all union members look like angry, irrational, nasty people. Did you see the shaking fist? What a joke.

Remember, these are our TEACHERS, our NURSES, and our FIREFIGHTERS.

Screw that woman, she got better treatment than she deserved, given that her intention was to instigate a confrontation for the cameras, and the media was all-too-happy to oblige.

[Maddy McCall]

19. Well, a little research shows that Genevieve is a Free Repub FREEPER

She supports Freeper Rallies in LA:

http://thirdplanet.tv/shut_up/Shut_Up.html


She's featured on, if not a member of, Free Republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1409926/posts




Maybe some of y'all feel pity for her, but I don't, especially knowing Freeper tactics of disrupting other people's rallies.

She got what she deserved.

[gardenista]

22. Got what she deserved? Hmm.... I wouldn't say that, exactly...

But then I'm particularly disgusted by those of her ilk.

I can just hear the vile things she must have been spewing in order to finally get people pissed off enough to tear up her sign.

[Maddy McCall]

29. Organizers of that rally went to the trouble to get permits, etc.

And then one lone freeper shows up and disrupts. With everything as emotional as it is, with this prop. election, I can see how it happened.

It would have been difficult for me to check myself.

[lwin]

31. She had it coming...

But knowing what a sicko she is, she probably enjoyed getting hit on the head with a sign.

[cynatnite]

33. This we can agree on...I don't think she got what she deserved...

but being a freeper it puts her with the worst of the worst crowd.

It would be nice if people would treat each other a little better, but with the animosity on both sides...the hope just isn't there.

I got in a huge discussion with my RW mother over things like this. I told her that it was the RW nutjobs who started this. Assholes like Rush just perpetuated it and kept it going to the point where both sides refuse to even attempt to get a long.

I don't remember it ever being this bad before. Even when Clinton was in office, those detractors who frothed over every little thing he did were considered extremists by most everyone I knew and that included conservatives.

It pisses me off to the point of crying that this country is so goddamn divided and it's their fault. I truly believe that.

[lwin]

38. You're right

They have ruthlessly divided this country. Tempers are running so hot over this special election, I worry about some of my volunteers being exposed to so many wackos from the GOP/Arnold side of things. Their numbers are in the toilet, so they are lashing out and getting desperate. I can't wait for this election to be over.

[gardenista]

43. I think that's why this sort of dirty tricksterism bugs me so much.

She is a paid hack for the LA GOP. She tried to portray herself as a lone, helpless woman surrounded by a pack of union wolves. She was there to intentionally dehumanize everyone in the situation, including herself.

It's dirty, it's not fair, and it's their game. They revel in it.

There were good people at that rally who are fighting for their right to work, their right to a fair wage, their right to fair benefits. They work hard for us. They serve us. They are in direct contact with thousands upon thousands of Californians every day, doing the right thing, sometimes guiding our children, sometimes saving their lives.

To her this is all a game, and she obviously revels in it.

There is a special place in hell for people like her, and she will probably find that it's far worse than what she got tonight.

I truly believe that, and that is what helps me sleep at night.

[lwin]

44. Well since she won't go to hell tonight

I can't say I'm sorry she got bopped on the head with a sign...in fact...:evilgrin:

[gardenista]

46. LOL

:evilgrin: I'm there with you on that one!

[joefree1]

52. Good hunting. I've sent the information to channel 2

Don't know if they'll act on it but heres what I sent:

The governor's supporter you show being attacked at a Anti Special election rally is actually a member of a notorious right wing blog known for "freeping" Democratic events. You can see pictures of her on this right wing blog web page here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1409926/posts. Her name is Genevieve Peters and she is head of L. A. FOR BUSH which you can find a link for here: http://thirdplanet.tv/shut_up/Shut_Up.html

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[Maddy McCall]

53. Here's something else they should know

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1423047/replies?c=47

To: RonDog
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:25 PM
Subject: I made it on Channel 11 and 13

Hey There,
They GAVE US GREAT TV COVERAGE!!!

The sound bites they picked were AWESOME of my interview.!!
I made it on Channel 11 and 13.

NO MATTER WHAT WE WERE THERE AND GIVEN A VOICE!!
Thank you sooooo much for that!! You rock DUDE.

P.S. Could you find out if ANYONE taped channel 11 or 13 tonight?
I would really appreciate a copy.

Thanks again,
Genevieve

[gardenista]

55. Good Lord, this idiot was a teacher? nt

[lwin]

23. Yep, full blown freeper...not her first time pulling this crap

President of LAforBush last year, follows Schwarzenegger around like the pathetic little groupie she is...a total and complete loser.

[gardenista]

26. Maybe he groped her one time, and she's hoping for more. nt

[Selteri]

41. I have a few points here

THis looks like a certain tactic - The Security vest woman is the only one not wearing an plainly visibly ID badlge unlike the REAL security person 2-3 people behind her who had a badge out - Her shirt under the vest also matches the pueple of theother's who do the bullying. - The main of the bullying are being done by a single small group of women about the same age. - That looks a lot like the actions of a certain person who's kid had 'her sign torn from her hands by a Kerry supporter'

If that guard is legit - I want to see news about her getting her butt fired.

[xxqqqzme]

63. the purple shirts are

T-shirts supplied by the union for rallies. The woman tearing up the sign is probably a union person wearing the vest for visibility. I have been to these rallies and the vest people R 'go to' people if you need help or have a question.

[Maddy McCall]

42. More on Genevieve

Facing north, it was Bush people to the right, anti-Bushes to the left. The veritable standoff had Genevieve Peters beaming. The 41-year-old teacher and Beverly Hills resident founded L.A. for Bush. “It started out with eight people around a table, and it’s grown to hundreds — hundreds and hundreds,” said Peters. Democrats, she explained, “stand for hate and for vengeance and a globalization that has no strength or character or anything that’s for America. America, from the beginning of time, had an identity and culture. And they’re trying to decimate our identity and culture . . . to some melting pot like Europe.”

She added, “Democrats have gone in and said, ‘We’re just all one. Every culture has a place here.’ No! We’re an American culture.”

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/39/news-blume.php

[cynatnite]

47. She sounds racist to me...

When I hear 'American Culture' like that...I can't think of any term to apply.

[Selteri]

48. Shades of Nazi - Not Hitler - Nazi

Identifying that the greatest danger is the attempt to water down our culture.

[Maddy McCall]

50. Yes, I thought so, too.

[Ferretherder]

59. So let me get this straight,...

...this idiot is struggling to push some kind of 'America Uber allis' bullshit about the 'pure' and 'totally-identifiable-as-American' society,....

....and she's a huge supporter of the Austrian-born AHNULD??????

The mind boggles.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

64. "America, from the beginning of time, had an identity and culture."

Uhm...yeah, sweetie. Then we stomped on it and packed the remnants of that culture up to live on reservations.

I hope to god she doesn't fancy herself a teacher of U.S. history.

[Maddy McCall]

49. Genevieve is Freeper GVgirl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=49582

[pinniped]

51. Professional agitator.

"These people are being lied to!"

[FredScuttle]

57. Mess with the bull.....

you get the horns. Fuck her and all the Gropenfuhrer enablers. Her speech is protected right up until the time her bullshit gets in my face and then it's bye-bye-Freeper time.

[xchrom]

58. who cares?

right wingers do this to people on the left all the time -- i.e. the young lady at the republican convention in n.y.

i am so not worried about what happened to genevieve.

the left should ALWAYS be so hard nosed.

[NuttyFluffers]

67. agreed.

the time for kindness and civil discussion has passed.

[AngryAmish]

62. She is one of the ones we need to round up

Bush is Hitler

[geniph]

68. Schwarzenegger still has a supporter?!

Who knew?!

[mitchum]

69. I have no pity for that paid hack. She's a gop whore and can go to hell