Top Cheney aide Libby indicted

[Stinky The Clown]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9837835/

edited to change title

[maddezmom]

1. false statements, obstruction of justice and perjury

[Changenow]

3. The rules apply to Scooter.

It's a start.

[Stinky The Clown]

5 counts

obstruction
lying to grand jury
lying to fed agents
perjury before grand jury (2 times)

[anotherdrew]

65. nothing about releasing classified information, disclosing agents ID, etc?

[joeunderdog]

74. Al Capone was never accused of murder either.

Fitz as much as said that the charges brought served the purpose of addressing the crimes in such a way that they could be prosecuted. On a day that he stayed "within the 4 corners" of the indictments, he more than implied that someone outed a CIA agent and this was a matter of--hold onto your hat, President Bush--NATIONAL SECURITY.

Sean Hannity is already saying that there was no "underlying crime" although that did not seem to matter with Martha or Bill, did it? The Clinton impeachment on this charge will haunt their guilty white asses for a long time.

Whether or not anyone else from BushCo. is indicted for lying or outing or obstructing, everyone knows what they did. They are guilty in the court of public opinion regardless. After the Fitzgeral performance today, the Pukes' talking points are ridiculous reaches for even the biggest RW busllshitters.

I hope this drags on and on and on and on....

[Boomer]

2. Here are some of the details from that article

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, was indicted Friday on the charge of making false statements to the grand jury investigating the leak of a covert CIA agent’s name.

The indictment could trigger a shake-up at the White House, already on the defensive over the response to Hurricane Katrina, opposition to the Iraq war and the withdrawal of President Bush’s nominee for the U.S. Supreme Court, Harriet Miers.

Details were to be outlined at 2 p.m. ET, when Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald will hold a press conference at the Justice Department. The grand jury that handed up the indictment had been hearing the case for nearly two years and its term expires Friday.

[Arger68]

5. I know I sound like a 3 year old, but

I WANT MORE!!!!!! I WANT MORE!!!!!!!

More indictments, that is. ;)

[ClintonTyree]

11. I at least want the investigation to move forward........

if it stops here I'll be pissed. There is SOOOO much more that needs to be exposed about this most criminal administration!

[ChiciB1]

52. Absolutely... Get Red Rover At The Very Least, However

Personally the TWO TOP IDIOTS in the WH MUST Go To!!!!

Scooter just ain't enough! We need the American people to REALLY know what a severe travesty has been perpetrated upon them!!!

WAR FOR OIL... OIL people OIL! Too many have Died For People Who Lied OUTRIGHT!!!!

CNN right now has RE-HASHING what Joe Wilson SAID! B.S./ B.S./ B.S!!!

No matter what Wilson may or may not have said, it's has NOTHING to do with ANY Indictment!! He IS NOT the Criminal!! This point must be made in a very vociferous way because this is what "the corrupt ones" are going to do! Joe DiGeneva has ALREADY started it!! Next we get Victoria, Victoria I assume!!

[louis-t]

67. RW talking points are:

Wilson lied, he wasn't 'qualified' to go to Niger, his wife sent him, his wife wasn't 'undercover', everyone 'knew' she worked for CIA (except the neighbors who were on MSNBC the other night), they never said her last name (or first name, or either depending on which nitwit is talking), no one got hurt or killed because of it. Any others?

[TheFarseer]

57. at least we got something

I was getting worried that there would be nothing and we would look completely stupid.

[Arger68]

59. Yeah, I know and I'm happy for that.

I just feel like a spoiled child that didn't get what I wanted for Christmas. I do think there'll be more before it's over, though.

[belle]

63. Looks like it--Fitzgerald is continuing w/a new grand jury.

:bounce:

[JDPriestly]

75. Not exactly!

I did not have the impression that Fitzgerald is going to deal with the actual leak. He said that he has to prove state of mind/motive/intention and that that is hard to do. I thought Fitzgerald said the investigation part of his work was over! It's up to the press, the bloggers and Congress to get more information and push this further. We have to win back the House next year or we will never learn the whole truth.

All we know now is that Libby is charged with lying, perjury and obstruction of justice. The big hope is that Libby may weigh the potential jail sentences he faces on the existing charges against the risk of the sentence he will face if he cooperates and decide to tell the truth and the whole truth. At this point, we don't know what will happen. We can hope that Rove will cooperate with the prosecutor so we can learn what really happened, but I would not count on that. Not only is he a pathological political operative and probably also a pathological liar so his cooperation probably won't be worth much unless he is told he faces serious prison terms and has a change of personality.

[janedoe]

71. Bigger fish

Perhaps they're waiting for Rove to roll over on the bigger fish before he himself gets "a deal." I suspect they're still negotiating Rove's "deal."

Libby seems to have gotten a deal for rolling over on Cheney.

[daleo]

4. So, will Rove get a pass?

I certainly hope not, but I have learned not to get my hopes up too high.

[Julius Civitatus]

9. Rove can claim victory and move on to more dirty tricks

This will only encourage the bastard.

[jazzjunkysue]

29. I doubt that seriously. He's just negotiating for a plea down.

They've already offered him one, and he refused it. So, he's thinking he can dicker them down, but, Fitz can drop charges on his head any minute. Both Miller and Libby said Rove was the leak. This is just negotiation time. Not the end.

[cassiepriam]

42. Why might Rove refuse a deal? He thinks he can walk?

[JDPriestly]

76. Miller and Libby said Rove was the leak?

I missed that. When did they say that?

[calimary]

39. Evidently, he's still under investigation. He's not on the hot seat

at the moment. But he's not out of the woods, either.

I'm hopin'...

[ChiciB1]

55. That's What They're Saying... Rove Still UNDER Investigation!!!

Just how this will proceed is not yet known. Or at least I haven't heard a report on it.

[catmandu57]

6. Let it snow let it snow let it snow

Lets hope there comes a blizzard.

[Julius Civitatus]

7. Fitzmas: we just got underwear; no pony, no bicycle

We were all still hoping for the price pig, Karl Rove, to get a few indictments he so rightfully deserves.

Getting Libby is fine, but I was expecting Rove. This is the equivalent of getting underwear for Fitzmas, instead of the pony you wanted.

:shrug:

[AspenRose]

12. At least we got a scooter.

eom

[Julius Civitatus]

13. Ha!

Funny!

;-)

[Judi Lynn]

20. Good one!

[Junkdrawer]

34. Best.post.of.the.day

:thumbsup:

[Kolesar]

46. LOL!

[cassiepriam]

48. I always got socks and a hairbrush for xmas.

Maybe this is like more like Hanukkah. 8 Days.
Better presents to come.

[belle]

64. Yah, but there may well be more to this Fitzmas season.

"On the first day of Fitzmas..."

looks like this may in fact be the gift that keeps on giving. Rove's not off the hook. None of them are.

http://www.wtkr.com/global/story.asp?s=4042769&ClientType=Printable

Rove's lawyer said he was told by the prosecutor's office that
investigators had "made no decision about whether or not to bring
charges" and would continue their probe into Rove's conduct.

Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn, said the investigation will
continue but with a new grand jury. The term of the current grand jury
cannot be extended beyond today.

[wabeewoman]

8. CNN doing a fairly decent job too

Saying all counts are felonies. Cheney's name mentioned. Waiting to see if they are going to continue investigating.

[anitar1]

25. Fitzgerald said that the investigation of Rove is ongoing.

Through a spokesman, as I understand it.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Lied to the grand jury at least 5 times

caused them to go in the wrong direction with the investigation. Scooter is so screwed. Yes!

[Christa]

15. Bush lost his scooter

still has his dick for the time being :popcorn:

[cassiepriam]

50. Scoot such a bad boy. Santa found out who was naughty, not nice.

[LisaM]

14. That's it?

I just hope the aspens really are connected at the roots and that they all "turn" at the same time.

[ClintonTyree]

19. He resigns....

bush gives him a presidential pardon and the whole thing goes away. You watch, bush will pardon him well before this ever goes to trial. They don't want people testifying about the dirty shit this cabal does. They never want Iraq to come up in a trial either or their ass is grass! :grr: Bastards!

[jazzjunkysue]

30. They can still try him even if he's fired.

[Giant Robot]

16. I'm sorry I agree that I want more

It's been two years. Scott Peterson was sentenced to death in less time. Give us more.

[Left Turn]

17. 5 charges!

It's being reported that he's going to be indicted on FIVE different charges. Wow. I don't see how he's escaping this one.

[prescole]

18. On the first day of Fitzmas

we got a scooter and five golden indictments.

More to come!

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Max penalty is 30 years in prison

That ain't small spuds

[jazzjunkysue]

31. Not if you're the one looking at 30 big ones.

[NCPatriot]

73. Reduced to 12 months community service

If you squawk like a parrot!!

[niceypoo]

22. This is only the FIRST round.

This is just the beginning.......WOOHOO!!!!!

[VegasWolf]

23. Bu Bye Libby!!!! Go scoot on now!!!!

:bounce:

[dbeach]

24. BUILDING SLOW like a skilled conducutor of a symphony

a stunning cresendo to be expected and a whirl wind finish

LOTS OF DIRT under bushes

[maxsolomon]

26. nothing on the root crime of blowing Valerie Wilson's cover?

i'm not satisfied. this will be spun as technicalities & trivialities. treason would have been harder to spin. i hope more is forthcoming.

[leftchick]

27. AP: Cheney Adviser Indicted in CIA Leak Case

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cia_leak_investigation

WASHINGTON - Vice presidential adviser I. Lewis "Scooter' Libby Jr. was indicted Friday on charges of obstruction of justice, making a false statement and perjury in the CIA leak case.

Karl Rove, President Bush's closest adviser, escaped indictment Friday but remained under investigation, his legal status a looming political problem for the White House.

The indictments stem from a two-year investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald into whether Rove, Libby or any other administration officials knowingly revealed the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame or lied about their involvement to investigators.

The five-count indictment accuses Libby of lying about how and when he learned about CIA official Valerie Plane's identity in 2003 and then told reporters about it. The information was classified.

Any trial would shine a spotlight on the secret deliberations of Bush and his team as they built the case for war against Iraq.

:woohoo:

[renate]

44. That's the key right there:

Any trial would shine a spotlight on the secret deliberations of Bush and his team as they built the case for war against Iraq.

This is the beginning of the beginning... there are going to be many more than just 12 days of Fitzmas!

And Rove is totally and specifically NOT off the hook. It's a bummer that he won't be doing the perp walk today, but it's nice to have something to look forward to--maybe (depending on who he flips on) something even better than his own indictment.


:popcorn: :woohoo: :popcorn: :woohoo: :popcorn: :woohoo: :popcorn: :woohoo:

[nvliberal]

28. He'll cut a deal and that will be the end of it.

The Democrats aren't going to benefit from this "scandal" at all, I'm afraid.

[AndyTiedye]

66. If ROVE Cuts A Deal...

...it will be the end of Bush** and Cheney :party::party:
I can forego this:


For this:

[CityDem]

32. No Rove = No Fitzmas

Rove is an evil bastard and the architect of AWOL's mean spirited policies. Libby will fight these charges for years and no one will hear about it. If Rove gets off, the last two years have been wasted.

[Tight_rope]

40. I Hope "Scooter" turns on everyone last one of those bastards!...n/t

[hippiegranny]

62. Actually,

Rove's evil genius seems to be specialized in the form of election fraud and head thumping of enemies. As for actual war crimes and the conspiracy to wage war for false pretenses, that all comes from the "real" president's office - Cheney. Getting Scooter is a much bigger deal from that perspective, don't you think?

Sure it would have been nice to see little piggy Rove get it in the first round too, but I think his day is still to come.

For now, I'm happy with a Scooter for Fitzmas. I can live with some delayed gratification for the piggy bank. The pair of twin ponies would be Bushler and Dark Lord Cheney. Maybe next Fitzmas, just in time for the 2006 elections? That would be so sweeeeeet.

[jazzjunkysue]

33. Merry Fitzmas!!

And a happy new year!
Wooo Hoooooo!!!!!!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[Tight_rope]

35. I WANT KKKARL ROVE'S HEAD ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK!..n/t

[raysr]

54. I want his head

on the end of "bubba's" johnson!

[jaded_at_best]

36. delicious

I hope this is only the beginning.

FITZ DON"T F*CKING DISAPPOINT ME

[centristo]

37. Libby just resigned

...no surprise...

1:10pm EST

[cassiepriam]

53. Maybe it is better that he indicts one a week?

Like that Agatha Christie murder mystery, Then There Were None? I think that is the name. Took place in an English Country Manor House. A murderer killed off all the guests one by one. Guests started going crazy real quick.

[spooky3]

38. CBS: Libby has resigned

[underpants]

56. ABC News has it --'Scooter' Libby Indicted in CIA Leak Case

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/CIALeak/story?id=1259169

[Maat]

41. I'm happy with this indictment and ongoing investigation ..

because, in my humble opinion, the key is to get 24/7 news coverage for awhile about this evil cabal.

Like someone said, it is starting to snow, and I believe eventually we will have a huge snowball heading straight to ..

[nickgutierrez]

43. This is just a start, I think.

I always doubted that we would have one "Fitzmas", where a dozen or more indictments rolled out of his office. We're likely to see them go down two or three at a time, and Libby is just a start. Most expect Libby to resign soon. We can expect the same from any indicted person that is not an executive or, possibly, a cabinet member.

[savemefromdumbya]

45. outstanding dent in the Bush administration

this has certainly wiped the smile off a lot of faces. We have to remember who Libby is and who he worked with and what he was into which has not been accounted for.....YET. This indictment will bring as someone on this board said out of the bushes.

[truthisfreedom]

47. think of this as the appetizer.

there's a hell of a lot more on this menu!

[savemefromdumbya]

49. Yes there IS

worse than Watergate. Maybe they will get on to the 9/11 investigation one day.

[jillan]

51. when do we get to eat?

Do you think when Fitz comes on there will be more charges?

I am looking for a reporter to ask about the original question-
who leaked the name?

[Martin Eden]

58. What about the crime that started the investigation?

Will there be no indictments for exposing a CIA undercover operative?

[NYC Liberal]

60. Yes there will. The investigation is WIDENING today, not coming to an end.

Rove is in even deeper trouble now. He didn't get indicted today because the "new info" Fitz has gotten in the last 2-3 days leads to even bigger charges for Rove......watch, I'll bet ya.

[pdurod1]

61. A good day in America

[truthpusher]

68. Patrick J. Fitzgerald: New Papers Released & Up on website

New Papers now up:

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/

[twaddler01]

69. sweeet

:popcorn:

[lovuian]

70. Cheney told him and the lies Scooter told was incredible!!!

AriFleischer and Tim Russert & cooper all testified agaisnt him!!!

[MagickMuffin]

72. WooHoo

Scooter Libby you've been "SERVED"