Republicans turn against Lewis Libby

[sabra]

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Republicans turn against Lewis Libby


WASHINGTON Some Republicans on Capitol Hill are welcoming Lewis Libby's resignation as Vice President Cheney's chief of staff.

Congressman Jim Ramstad says it's time to stop the leaks and spins. He says he'd like to see Washington turned into what he calls "one big recovery meeting where people say what they mean and mean what they say."

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says the Senate won't investigate the C-I-A leak.

Libby's indictment in the C-I-A leak investigation is a political embarrassment for President Bush. It paves the way for a possible trial renewing the focus on the administration's faulty rationale for going to war against Iraq.

[Inland]

1. Libby finds out who his friends really are. Nobody. nt

[DBoon]

11. I bet his even his dog turns on him

nt

[lark]

24. He's the sacrificial goat

I could see that the other day when Rover said he heard about Plame from Libby. They figured Rover was indispensable - after all he's the mastermind of political evil - and they couldn't get by Mr. Straight Arrow without someone going down so it's Libby. Rove is every bit as involved, he's just a much better liar having much more practice.

lark

[Dulcinea]

43. Used & hung out to dry. eom

[lebkuchen]

2. Fitzgerald did everything but wave the flag and Bible

He didn't need to stoop to that.

[Straight Shooter]

4. Whaaaat?

I've seen a lot of prosecutors in action. He was very circumspect and if he waved anything, it was the rule of law.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

6. Which Fitzgerald did you watch?

The guy I watched was straightforward, articulate, and completely in command of the situation.

Flag? Bible?

You were watching that Christian Broadcast Network Fitzgerald, I bet.

[IChing]

10. I don't think so but you are entitled to your opinion n/t

[rodeodance]

22. your kidding aren't you?---for once I felt proud to be an American while

I listened to him.

[Centered]

26. I thought he handled himself well

I believe he also acted very honorably. He didn't sway toward either side of this isle on this. He didn't comment on anything outside of the case nor did I hear him make any comments with attitude or an aire of "I got you sucker."

Very professional I believe and I also believe he is a man doing his job without regard to personal politics.

Some may have wanted to hear him blast Republicans or give a speech about a "crusade" to "root out" people in the administration. Others may have wanted to hear him defend his actions (republicans) he gave in to neither IMHO.

He got up said he would do his job and gave some facts of what has happened so far... nothing else.

I don't think this man is doing anything more or less than what he is supposed to be doing. I feel he acted in a very non-partisan way today.

[Straight Shooter]

3. Frist is "uncomfortable" with investigations that seek the truth.

What a jerk.

[Ignacio Upton]

9. Yeah, he's uncomfortable with HCA Trade Probes.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

5. Bite me, Jim

The Republicans have done nothing but leak and smear and revile and slander and slur and defame and NOW THAT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN CAUGHT, it's suddenly not a good thing.

Bite me.

[trogdor]

7. Recovery meeting?

You mean those things where everybody gets in a room and drinks bad coffee and chain-smokes while some schmoe gets up and says, "Hi I'm Soandso, and I'm a XXXX-holic?"

[JimmyJazz]

13. Schmoe? People who attend AA are "schmoes" in your opinion?

That's a pretty hateful thing to say. Perhaps you might want to check out the addiction and recovery forum sometime and see how many of your fellow DUers are "schmoes."

[DiverDave]

18. Settle down

I don't think it was meant as a slur.

Jeez, touchy people.

[JimmyJazz]

20. Don't tell me what to do.

And don't marginalize my feelings over an insensitive post. Thanks.

Jeez, insensitive people.

[FuzzySlippers]

14. What JimmyJazz said.

That's not a very enlightened attitude.

[merh]

35. Schmoe?

Is that what schmucks call people that are honest with themselves and who are trying to live better lives? :shrug:

It has been my experience that folks who slam recovery meetings and call the folks who attend the meetings names are either ignorant or have personally attended the meetings and think themselves "too good" for them. :freak:

Guess what, liberals and dems and progressives attend recovery meetings too. :hi:

[KitchenWitch]

37. My gut instinct is to blast you so hard that you still hurt next week

But I will not.

Personally I believe the more courageous people on this planet are the ones who step up and say they need help, and actually get help for themselves, rather than piss their lives away.

You sound like you are jealous! There is a real sense of community in recovery meetings...you ought to try it sometime.

I am sure there is a chapter of bad attitudes anonymous in your town that you can attend.

[BikeWriter]

38. So, you are against people facing their addictions...

and controlling them? :shrug:

[shoelace414]

8. Republicans are loyal as long as they are in power

but their realy loyalty is to themselves..

[DBoon]

12. their loyalty is to power and wealth itself

once these are lost, you become a "loser" and hence persona non grata

[MGKrebs]

15. Of course they do.

Rule #3 in the Republican Operations Manual is

Don't Get Caught.

He has failed to live up to Republican ideals and his oath by getting caught.

[Charles19]

16. Yah must be a tough crowd to hang with

To be one of them you must be a nasty, lying, reality denying freeper. Yet if you are somehow caught being one, you are on your own brother :-).

Thing is, they will continue to be nasty liers, they just won't be nasty liers to any more covert CIA agents.

So all the rest of the people who are willing to say the emperor has no clothes are still in for a rough ride. Righteousness has never been the easy path though.

[crossroads]

23. Amen Brother!!!

CR

[Orsino]

17. Libby who?

Never met him. Or her. Whichever.

And I did not sex up that intelligence.

[Gnostic]

19. Not "turning away" like they should

What amazes me are the responses from both the POTUS and vice POTUS. Bush said "it's a sad day"....what the hell does he mean by "sad"??? I would think the POTUS would be furious and mad as hell that this has been allowed to happen within his own admin....what the hell happened to "we will find out who did it and punish those responsible swiftly and justice will be served blah blah"? Now he's just "sad". He's sad that an investigation for the TRUTH has been conducted? Now I see how he truly feels about justice.

And Cheney comes out and says he's sad too, and he "regrets" to accept Libby's resignation. So Cheney is "regretful" too that an investigation for the TRUTH has transpired, and he "regrets" that he has to let go a CRIMINAL subordinate. Cute.

No feelings or even a show of anger or outrage that such crimes have occurrred in thier own administrations, no show of indignation that such crimes would be committed in THIER names. Just "sad" and "regretful".

Well, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, I and alot of other Americans are "sad and regretful" that we have assclowns and crooks like you running our country, but WE are OUTRAGED that such crimes are taking place in OUR country's name, and we are GRATEFUL that an investigation aimed at the TRUTH has been conducted and that JUSTICE might be served.

[rodeodance]

21. I see Congress is shucking their oversite responsibilites AGAIN.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says the Senate won't investigate the C-I-A leak.

[Historic NY]

27. Fitzgerald made that clear that Congress shirked its responsibility......

and still isn't doing the job they were elected to do.

[lovuian]

44. I agree there are more criminals here than Scoobie Doo!!!

the Republican Congress!!!

[Mithras61]

30. I suspect that they aren't "turning away" because...

Scooter has something serious on 'em that even the 'pukes in Congress would have to act on...

[tanyev]

41. I noticed that, too.

Yes, they are very sad about Scooter's departure. Sadness or anger at the treasonous outing of an undercover agent? Not so much.

[Gnostic]

48. Only concerned with themselves

They could'nt care less about Plame or any other officer or agent or governmental worker. Truth be told, they could'nt care less about anybody, including the whole of the American people. They only care about their own bottom lines.

They don't care about law, especially international law. They don't care about ethics....except of course when it's convenient and good propaganda policy for the party to do so when they put on their bible toting "christian" shows. They don't care about morality, except when the subject of such morality or lack thereof happens to be a Dem or anyone else opposed to their agendas. Nothing much really matters to these people at all except their own well being and continued stay in power.

Bush presided over one of the bloodiest periods of Texas history as far as the death penalty goes, he did'nt show much leniency or benefit of the doubt of innocence to hundreds of state prison inmates. Yet now he makes it a point to remind us of how Libby should be "presumed innocent" until due process of the law. Why does he feel the need to "remind" us of this fact now? Why is'nt he out to fry this toadie? Why is'nt he now outraged that a major crime/s may have been committed within the top level of his own administration? Is it just easier and more convenient to send poor people with no political or oil industry connections to the death chamber? Why is'nt he on radio or television, RIGHT NOW, telling us all about how he is so outraged and ashamed that so many crooks holding top leadership positions within his own party have been indicted? Why is'nt he coming out and demanding that Delay be sent to the gulag for a hundred years? Is it more palatable to send common Americans to prison because they can't fight back and don't have any dirty laundry on you?

[AlCzervik]

25. Maybe they shouldn't talk smakc about Libby until he really decides how

loyal he wants to be to the republican party, so far he's decided to throw himself into the volcano to protect Cheney, what happens to them if he changes his mind? Please Libby, change your mind, tell everyone who you're really protecting.

[The Judged]

28. Pardon is on the horizon! So long as the case doesn't explode wide open.

If many others get dragged into this or if this leads to other widespread criminal investigations, then Libby might not get pardoned, but that is unlikely at this point.

[Historic NY]

31. Perhaps, but it would be a perversion of Justice......

we will have a trial first. No matter what the outcome. I feel confident the Fitz has more "fish to fry", and Libby might look to make a deal down the line.

[Mark E. Smith]

29. Will Scooter Squeal?

They better not press their luck too much. Scooter just might turn around and work out an advantgageous plea bargain with Mr. Fitzgerald. One that would put Scooter in the witness stand!

[Historic NY]

32. You can bet the store on it he faces 30 yrs if convicted......

that a whole lot of time living with Bubba.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

33. Oh, this is WONDERFUL!!!

ScootsBaby is gonna feel like he has been left to twist slowly in the wind. He's gonna get bitter. He's gonna get angry. He's gonna feel betrayed.

He's gonna spill his guts.

[The Judged]

34. Judge for Libby trial: appointed by Reagan & promoted by G.W. Bush

A good Republican.

Also, there are already talking points that the Obstruction charge will be tossed, allegedly because there is no evidence that any crime took place to begin with in the outing of Plame.

[Oreegone]

36. But, Most have not heard the call

ATTENTION: All Rats, the ship is sinking fast, abandon ship.
:cry: :rofl:

[truthisfreedom]

39. nobody's really saying what this is...it's a POLITICAL DISASTER FOR BUSHCO

from which they have NO FARKING CHANCE OF RECOVERING.

[0007]

40. Embarrassing for President Bush?? WTF

junior is an embarrassment to the folks of this country.

A crook. A liar. A War Criminal.

[Fluffdaddy]

42. Bull-shit If he keeps his mouth shut he will be taken care of just like

North and Gordon Liddy by the right-wing

[NanceGreggs]

45. But LIBBY is no LIDDY ...

Liddy was a hard-ass; Scooter is a mush. How loyal do you think he's going to be to the very people who have hung him out to dry?

He's going to sing like a canary, if it gets him a deal.

[mod mom]

46. Note to Fitzgerald: the Repugs won't investigate so it's up to you!

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[wordpix2]

47. DU: tell the Senate to investigate and prove Frist wrong (again!)

[cassiepriam]

49. After all he has done for them? Saved Bush and Cheney's neck.

It if wasn't for Scoot, Cheney and Bush would have been indicted on Friday. Poor poor Scoot, doesn't get no repect.