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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:07 PM
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Rove lawyer says he'll be cleared

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Rove lawyer says he'll be cleared


WASHINGTON A lawyer for Bush adviser Karl Rove says Rove will "continue to cooperate fully" as the special counsel wraps up the investigation into the leak of an undercover C-I-A officer's identity.

Rove wasn't indicted today by the grand jury that did indict Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby. But Rove remains under investigation.

His lawyer says he's confident that when the investigation is finished, the prosecutor will find that Rove "has done nothing wrong."

The lack of an indictment of Rove is a mixed blessing for the White House. It keeps in place the president's top adviser. But leaving Rove in legal jeopardy means there's still a cloud overhead, as Bush and his team work on problems like the Iraq war, a Supreme Court vacancy and slumping poll ratings.

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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:10 PM
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1. Yeah, yeah. Nothing else his lawyer can say, is there?
Maybe Rove will vomit everything to save his own skin, let's hope. His own arrogance may bring him down.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:11 PM
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2. That's what he's paid to say -- Official A?
MSNBC reports that "Official A" is code-speak for someone who might still be charged. In other words, indictment spells out positions of other officials in WH that it refers to (titles, so you can figure out who they are, w implication that they have done nothing wrong), but not this one. If Karl is Official A, sounds like he is still in trouble.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:44 PM
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10. You mean, "Official A-hole."


Now THAT'S more like it!

:evilgrin:


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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:12 PM
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3. What else is there to say at this point? Nothing surprising here.
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:12 PM
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4. We shall see
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 03:13 PM by Pepper32
Right now their comments are nothing more than wishful thinking.

Just wait until Libby starts singing.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:17 PM
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5. Fitzgerald doesn't "clear" people
He either charges you with a crime, or he doesn't.

There will not be any letters "clearing" anybody, and there will not be any report.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:19 PM
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6. Mouthpiece.
paid to put on a brave face. Watch his client give up the chimp! (Well, I'm the hopeful sort :shrug:)

Gyre
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:27 PM
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7. Well, Rove's lawyer isn't under investigation...
...yet.

His client, however, is toast.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:52 PM
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8. That's what lawyers do.
He's not going to say my client is a big fat headed liar.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:02 PM
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9. This is foreshadowing. Who doubts Rove would screw Libby to stay free?
Rove's had two years to wheedle, plot, and pin this rap on somebody else. The very likely chance is that Rove has had Libby pinned as a fall guy from the day this story hit the left wing presses. Two years later, when it hits the mainstream media, he's more than ready to toss some patsy to the dogs and stay in the clear himself.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:30 PM
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11. No no, this is perfect.


Fitz had to bring some measure of significant progress in the way of indictments to the judge by the end of this grand jury to justify asking for another grand jury. He accomplished this with Libby. He served up Libby with five indictments as a show of force to the others on his list. And he chose Libby because Libby began to sing toward the end, so Fitz thinks he already has most of what he can get out of Libby. I also think there was a deal in the works there, to get Libby to sing. But we won't know about that until much later, as I expect Libby will be called as a prosecution witness against the others. So I will not be disappointed if Libby's prosecution appears to drag for now, as his future testimony is probably part of the deal to resolve his own case.

Fitz has enough to indict Karl, and Karl knows it bc Fitz already offered him a deal. That deal would require Karl to give up more information, but Karl turned it down. So that indictment is hanging over Karl's head like the sword of Damocles. Good strategy, let him squirm. Fitz is continuing his investigation to get the information Karl is withholding, from other sources. As that investigation continues, Fitz will pile up more evidence - and likely more indictments - against Karl, and the others.

So the race is on: The longer Karl (and anybody else) holds out, the more work Fitz has to do. The more work Fitz has to do, the less likely he will be to offer Karl an attractive deal. The longer Fitz works, the more evidence he will have against Karl (and others), until Fitz has everything he needs without Karl's cooperation. Then Fitz will throw a half dozen indictments at Karl, and THEN Karl will want to deal... but it will be too late. Karl will have nothing to offer Fitz that Fitz didn't already get somewhere else. In that case, either:

1. Karl will be useless to Fitz, and suffer the full consequences of his corruption and arrogance, or

2. Karl will have to SERIOUSLY betray Bush & Co. to get any consideration at all from Fitz.

As for me, I am absolutely certain that Karl will be indicted along with the others, and I am more than willing to be patient if it means that Fitz gets all the time he needs to build the biggest and strongest case against the most corrupt people in this god forsaken administration, as possible.

No, today was not a happy day for Karl. He is not off the hook. His day is coming, and he knows it. He will put on a brave face, and his lawyer will spin it every which way... but every day that passes by, Fitz gathers more evidence, and Karl can only squirm and wonder how bad it's getting.



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WestMichRad Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:47 PM
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12. Very good post
And I agree with you, this is perfect. I just love the idea of KKKarl twisting in the wind knowing the shit will eventually be hitting the fan and spraying all over his nice suit. The fact that they have been in a state of vapor lock over the looming indictments is evident by how all the political/public actions of the admin have been bunged over the past few months.
Let it drag on.... they can't dig themselves out of their hole when it just keeps getting sloppier!
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:40 PM
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14. Agreed. This is perfect.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 09:44 PM by Panda1
I think Kkkkarl will be indicted.
Per Olbermann tonight, "Fitzgerald was ready to indict Rove" but was given "pause" by "new information" provided by "Rove's lawyer." (Luskin)

Jon King just waved some papers on "Newsnight" and declared, "Official A is Karl Rove."

Fitz is being careful and checking his list twice. That's all.
More will be revealed. The spin will go nuts over the weekend but we all know what they'll say...they've been defending this White House all along. HO-Wolf is spinning "Libby made a mistake, he didn't remember, he's innocent until proven guilty". Gergen is spinning "the good of the country" bullshit they spewed during Nixon's pardon. I think "the country" can handle locking a bunch of crooks behind bars and moving on.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 08:21 PM
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13. I'm so tired of hearing about what Rove's attorney sez, I could
scream! Lukins or pumskin or what ever his name, can spin both ways at the same time.
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