Bush pledges to win war on terrorism (warns Syria & Iran)

[sabra]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-10/28/content_3698334.htm

Bush pledges to win war on terrorism

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"We will never back down, we will never give in and we will never accept anything less than complete victory," Bush told a rally in Norfolk, near the home of the Naval Station Norfolk, the world's largest naval station.

Bush warned that "the terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity. And we must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war against terror."

"This enemy considers every retreat of the civilized world as an invitation to greater violence. In Iraq, there is no peace without victory -- and so we will keep our nerve and win that victory," said Bush.

...

"State sponsors like Syria and Iran have a long history of collaboration with terrorists -- and they deserve no patience from the victims of terror," Bush said.

[shoelace414]

1. Excellent.. but one question. What does Victory mean?

[Canuck55]

3. At this point...

...i'm sure he considers total victory getting his approval rating back above 50% in time for the '06 elections.

[daleo]

20. It is a type of gin, I think.

Yes, Victory Gin.

[mod mom]

43. Another question: who is going to fight your wars? Jenna + Barbara?

[BlueManDude]

2. Astros manager Garner vows to beat White Sox...

* and his cabal of incompetent lunatics are the only ones who don't realize it's over.

[sabra]

7. you and Fitz with your baseball analogies... I like it! :-)

[bluedog]

4. fool me once shame on you.fool me twice.shame on me

not going to work this time....think its about time bush realizes this..........

[electropop]

5. We need to block his invasion plans.

I think it's Iran first. They have a lot more oil, right?

[Warren Stupidity]

19. Yeah but syria is weaker.

Anyhow they ain't invading shit right now 'cause there is too much other stink going on. The only thing that they could do is another mihop/lihop event to put the fear on us again.

We'll see how messed up sonny-boy's face is after he gets back from his binge at camp david. That should indicate what sort of foul depraved horseshit they are considering.

[TheWatcher]

6. You know, somebody mentioned this a few days ago

But I'm going to bring it up again, because it's VERY applicable here.

With all the crap going on around him, isn't this little Bastard starting to sound like Hitler in the Bunker shortly before his suicide?

Giving Orders to divisions he no longer had, etc.

Then again, he's not really running the country, so he's basically doing the only thing he was ever trained to do.

Spout the same bullshit until the bitter end.

[pinniped]

8. satan needs to recall his minion, he is a total nutcase & failure...

on the surface.

* is recycling the same lines as well. Infinite loop.

[unhappycamper]

9. "We will never back down, we will never give in. . ."

That reminds me of Galaxy Quest.

:rofl:

Sorry.

[TheCentepedeShoes]

24. Was Galaxy Quest

on the teevee last night? If it was, maybe the Shrubpoke was watching. Funny movie, like to see it again myself.

[acmavm]

10. What's with this 'we' crap?? When it was bush**s turn to do his duty for

his country while in the service he ran like a scalded dog crying to Poopy to get him out of the TANG and into a nice comfy soft spot partying in Alabama.

He needs to either suit up or drop the collective pronoun shit.

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[The_Casual_Observer]

12. He gives these pathetic speeches to captive audiences

Who is going to go to Iran & Syria to fight? The "Young Republicans"?

[hogwyld]

14. Now that I think about it

Maybe it would be good for the country to purge all pukes out of here and to Iraq. Then we could really get some things done! Go 'pugs! Go save the world!

[confludemocrat]

13. Bush junta attack would be like Falklands war was to Argentine junta

and change the face and nature of US militarism as with Argentina to a thoroughly discredited form. But I fear the cost in lives to the people we attack.

[ElectroPrincess]

16. Well they better recruit Liz and Mary Cheney as well as

Jenna and Barbara Bush. The rest of America's SANE parents will work like hell to discourage their children from entering the US Military.

The "back-door draft" known as *stop loss* can NOT go on for much longer without profound repercussions.

No! No more WAR for PEACE!!!

[alstephenson]

17. Mary Cheney's got a cushy job with AOL waiting for her.....

she's got a "career" - fighting in the WAR is for the poor folks!

[PSPS]

15. Jesus, it's just the same shit over and over

There's the usual lie in that he again implies a link between Iraq and 9/11:

"... the terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity. And we must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war against terror."

And the timing, of course, to coincide with the latest crop of adversity (indictments), to imply, as he always does, "Don't mess with me or we'll kill you."

Finally, as others have observed quite accurately, he likes to bandy about the term "we" when he really means "you." Or, rather, "you who are not part of my base of the haves and have mores." I wonder if people will ever catch on that, despite the fact that he's a crook, and the war is a crime against humanity, that there's not been a scintilla of "sacrifice" by anyone who would count themselves as part of his "base."

[truthisfreedom]

18. remember that monty python knight? the one who insisted on fighting with

no arms or legs?

bush's cronies are being amputated one by one. he's just a noise box at this point.

[rodeodance]

21. what happened to NK?--the third axis of evil?

[KayLaw]

22. Blah, blah, blah

I read it in my PNAC program, for Pete's sake!

[texpatriot2004]

23. When did he do this? Who was the audience? nm

[LynnTheDem]

25. And he's doing such a fine job of winning...for the terrorists.

Worldwide terrorism-related deaths on the rise
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5889435%20 /

US Losing the War on Terror in Iraq; The invasion of Iraq has increased, not decreased. the threat of terrorist attack
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2629.html

Occupation Made World Less Safe, Pro-War Institute Says
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2004/0526iissreport.htm

Iraq Invasion Hurt War on Terror
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-10.htm

Musharraf: World more dangerous because of Iraq War
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/25/03544/7945

Blix Says Iraq War May Have Worsened Terror Threat
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0319-02.htm

Poll: Aussies, Brits, Italians say Iraq war increased terrorism
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/5027215.html

Iraq intervention increased threat of terrorism
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/c7/9d/200409100845.68f9c878.html

UK Government; Iraq war 'increased terror threat'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3451239.stm

Iraq war has swollen ranks of al Qaeda
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1063717,00.html

US State Department Corrects Report to Show Rise in Terrorism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5264512 /

Iraq has become a terrorist spawning ground, CIA admits
http://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Iraq-a-terrorist-spawning-ground-CIA-admits/2005/02/17/1108609349394.html?oneclick=true

Iraq Conflict Feeds International Terror Threat
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050216/us_nm/security_usa_dc_9

Iraq now a terror training center
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/canada_security_canada_iraq_col

[Mika]

42. Thanks for gathering and posting those links, LynnTheDem

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[hatrack]

26. Never has the phrase "same shit different day" been so appropriate

It's the same Goddamned speech every single fucking time.

How one can manage to be whiny and pompous at the same time is something I don't understand, but somehow Chimpy manages.

[Disturbed]

27. There will be no "Victory" unless there are no more..

acts of terror. Does anyone sane believe that no acts of terror will ever occur, ever? This Prez. is not sane.

[ECH1969]

28. Iran and Syria under attack!

NORFOLK: US President George W. Bush yesterday assailed Syria and Iran as terrorism patrons and sought to bolster waning support for the war in Iraq.

“State sponsors like Syria and Iran have a long history of collaboration with terrorists - and they deserve no patience from the victims of terror,” the president told his audience in Norfolk, Virginia, near the home of the world’s largest naval station.

“The United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support and harbour them - because they are equally guilty of murder,” he said.

“In the last year, America and our partners in the Proliferation Security Initiative have stopped more than a dozen shipments of suspected weapons technology - including equipment for Iran’s ballistic missile programme,” he said.

http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?ArticleId=86346&CategoryId=0
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Yes, that is the title of the article.

[Patchuli]

29. *yawn*

And did he catch #2 again? :boring:

[stepnw1f]

30. YAWN

Hear about Hurricane Beta?

[mia]

31. “Evil men obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience

must be taken very seriously and we must stop them before their crimes multiply,”

Chilling. He's talking about himself.

[arewenotdemo]

50. Yes. His ambition was, and apparently still is,

to be a great "war president".

Never mind he opted not to fight when he had the opportunity as a young man....tho the Cheerleader-in-Chief was gung-ho pro-war even then.

Every American that voted for such a transparently evil Chickenhawk has Iraqi and American blood on his/her hands.

[NVMojo]

32. evil men who are jerking themselves off over being imperialists

[DeepModem Mom]

33. WP: Bush and Cheney Travel To Try to Rally Troops (speeches yesterday)

Bush and Cheney Travel To Try to Rally Troops
By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 29, 2005; Page A07

NORFOLK, Oct. 28 -- With the capital fixated on special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald's announcement of a high-level indictment in the CIA leak case, President Bush and Vice President Cheney took flight from Washington on separate trips to make impassioned speeches before military audiences about the Iraq war.

It was a classic day of split-screen television images, with Fitzgerald taking questions at a lengthy news conference on a grand jury indictment he sought against Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, at the very same moment the vice president was addressing soldiers at a "Rally for the Troops" at Robins Air Force Base in Georgia....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801916.html

[twaddler01]

34. you better preach it up bushy boy

you might be next! ;)

[bpilgrim]

35. UK sources tell us... we're FUCKED!

peace

[MADem]

36. Geez, I watched the Fitz press conference on MSNBC, I think

...and I did not see a split screen. Perhaps FAUX was the tool network doing that????

That reporter should have grabbed his remote, and flipped around a bit.

[DeepModem Mom]

38. CNN had it for a while -- I thought it did the cabal no good.

The contrast between Cheney and Fitz was all too clear on the screen.

[Solly Mack]

37. Yeah, they rally the troops

and others have to "tally" the troops

because Shrub and Cheney refuse to see the death they've caused.

[DBoon]

39. translation:

"troops to serve as props in media effort to support sagging bush presidency"

[MrBenchley]

40. So the troops themselves don't support the war?

Hmmmmm....

[henslee]

41. Bush is Joe McCarthy.

[bikebloke]

44. A mirror from the 50's

I recently read 'The Age of Anxiety" by Haynes Johnson. Back then, they had McCarthy. Now, it looks like we have a whole mess of McCarthys.

[henslee]

46. Fear mongering's for sissy secret agenda pathological unimaginative losers

There I said it.

[henslee]

47. I just googled the book. Looks good. Just checked out your hp...

Those film treats look worthwhile tooo. Alright.

[sendero]

45. More..

..... alligator mouth/hummingbird ass dichotomy.

[Nostradamus]

48. Read this translation of Goebbels "Total War" speech for resonances

if you swap the word "jews" for "terrorists", it starts to sound very familiar.

"...We are now facing a serious military burden in the East. The crisis is temporarily a broad one, similar but not identical in many ways with that of the previous winter. Later we will discuss the causes. Now, we must accept things as they are and look for the ways and means to turn things again in our favor. So there is no point in disputing the seriousness of the situation. I am above giving you a false impression of the situation that could lead to false conclusions, perhaps giving the German people a false sense of security that is altogether inappropriate in the present situation.

The storm raging against our venerable continent from the steppes this winter overshadows all previous human and historical experience. The German army and its allies are the only possible defense..."

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb36a.htm

[leesa]

49. An absolutely idiotic concept...a war against a technique

[jayctravis]

51. Liah!!!

"This enemy considers every retreat of the civilized world as an invitation to greater violence. In Iraq, there is no peace without victory -- and so we will keep our nerve and win that victory," said Bush.

Bush apparently considers lack of weapons of mass destruction an invitation to greater violence. So how 'bout we leave them their country and get the frig out? Oh...because they probably won't sell us their oil if they had their way.

Please ... I sincerely hope that we can figure out which of these insincere men decided to pillage a country for their resources ... as if it were freaking Age of Empires or something.