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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:42 AM
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Cops suspect funeral homes trafficking in human remains - NY
October 30, 2005

Before she died of ovarian cancer in February 2003, Danette Kogut told her sister Wendy that she didn't want anyone to see or unnecessarily touch her body after death, and she wanted to be cremated as quickly as possible.

Earlier this month, Wendy Kogut said police gave her the shocking news that parts of her sister's body allegedly had been harvested for human transplants.

The case, as described by Wendy Kogut, is only one among a number that police detectives and investigators with the Brooklyn district attorney's office are examining in a widening probe of suspected illicit trafficking in human bone and tissue at area funeral homes.

<snip>

Funeral homes in Pennsylvania, Florida and New Jersey also are being examined in the probe, said one law enforcement source who asked not to be identified.

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/crime/nyc-fune1030,0,7865425.story?coll=nyc-homepage-breakingheadlines

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:46 AM
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1. Ewwww, that's just so republican. (Just trying out what I have come
to believe is the worst slander you can hurl at someone.)
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:17 AM
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9. Works for me, I've been hurling that insult for a few years now
Prepare for heads to explode, that's the typical response.

Most effective if you narrow your eyes to slits, purse your lips and hiss "your a republican aren't you?"

Particularly effective if used after you catch the pubbie in an act, or assuming a position that should elicit shame, but somehow fails to.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:28 PM
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16. Is that republican or reptillian? I can't tell. nt
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 05:32 AM
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2. Ewwww!
Just Ewwwww!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 06:43 AM
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3. I wonder if these funeral homes
have any connection to BushCo?

Seems most of the other funeral operators who have gotten into trouble in the last ten years have been connected.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:40 AM
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6. There were "Funeralgates" in both Texas and Florida
both tied to a Bush pioneer named Robert Waltrip...

Here's a nice summary of the Texas end...

http://www.democrats.com/node/5960

and here's a good description of the Florida end...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1857543
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:40 AM
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4. Eww! Illegal harvesting of tissue & bone from a dead cancer victim.
That is just so awful and disgusting? Where were the tissue and bone sent? Were the doctors in the US or abroad? This is very disturbing. Maybe that's why the crematorium operator in GA was not cremating the bodies. :(
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:17 AM
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7. Not to mention the possibility of metastatic disease in the transplanted
organs. They can only donate corneas.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:30 AM
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8. That's what we get for bringing Nazi's back to work in Gov't after WWII
And Rumsfield owns a pharmaceutical co.? After "Constant Gardener," I'm afraid of prescribed medications now.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:52 AM
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10. If the woman had cancer, there is always a chance that some
cancer cells traveled to whatever organ was harvested, I would think.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:03 AM
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5. Now, THAT'S an original episode for "Six Feet Under".
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 06:26 PM
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11. More info on this from FDA.
Below is the full text of the related FDA Press Release announcing the "recall" of human tissues provided by Biomedical Tissue Services, Ltd. for surgical implantation.

I had ACL reconstruction in using an allograft (cadaver achilles tendon) in May 2005. I am also in NY, and there is a fairly good chance that the tendon implanted in my knee came from Biomedical Tissue Services, Ltd. (BTS). I'll find out over the next day or so.

DoYouEverWonder -- thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Mods -- there is no copyright issue here -- this is a public, gov't document, and the public interest is advanced by broad dissemination!

The official government document can be found at:
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2005/NEW01249.html

FDA Provides Information on Investigation into Human Tissue for Transplantation

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is notifying the public of its investigation of human tissue recovered by Biomedical Tissue Services, Ltd. (BTS) of Ft. Lee, NJ, and sent to tissue processors. Some of this tissue may have been implanted into patients from early 2004 to September 2005. The tissue was recovered by BTS from human donors who may not have met FDA donor eligibility requirements and who may not have been properly screened for certain infectious diseases. At this time, the implicated tissues from BTS include human bone, skin, and tendons. These products represent only a small percentage of the overall U.S. tissue supply.

While no adverse reactions related to these tissues have been reported to FDA at this time, because of the potential lack of proper screening of the tissue donors, some recipients of the tissues may be at increased risk of infections that could potentially be transmitted through tissues. FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) believe the risks from these tissues are low because the tissues were routinely processed using methods that help to reduce the risk of infectious disease; however, the actual infectious risk is unknown.

FDA's requirements to determine donor eligibility include important steps to ensure that donors do not harbor infections that could be transmitted to recipients. These steps include reviewing the donor's medical history and other factors, physically assessing the donor, and testing for relevant communicable diseases that may place the donor at an increased risk of infections that could then unintentionally be transmitted to recipients through the tissues.

The following tissue processors received tissue from BTS:

LifeCell Corporation of Branchburg, NJ
Lost Mountain Tissue Bank of Kennesaw, GA
Blood and Tissue Center of Central Texas in Austin, TX
Tutogen Medical, Inc., of Alachua, FL
Regeneration Technologies, Inc., of Alachua, FL
These firms already have voluntarily recalled all unused tissue remaining in inventory and are working cooperatively with FDA to ensure that the implanting physicians whose patients may have received the products are properly notified. Physicians who implanted tissue from BTS should have been contacted at this time by the receiving health care facility.

FDA and CDC recommend that implanting physicians inform their patients that they may have received tissue from a donor for whom an adequate donor eligibility determination was not performed. While the overall infectious risk is likely low, FDA and CDC recommend that physicians offer to provide patients access to appropriate infectious disease testing. The relevant communicable diseases for which a tissue donor is required to be tested are HIV-1 and 2 (the viruses that cause AIDS), hepatitis B virus, hepatitis C virus, and syphilis. Physicians who still have concerns or questions about the source of the tissue should contact the health care facility where the procedure was performed. FDA will continue its investigation into this matter and will issue further public health updates, as needed.

Patients and physicians should report any infectious disease possibly related to a tissue transplant to the processing firms, who then should notify FDA. Patients and physicians who wish to notify FDA directly of such infectious disease should report via FDA’s MedWatch reporting program at http://www.fda.gov/medwatch.

Additional information is available on FDA’s web site at http://www.fda.gov/cber/recalls.htm and by calling 1-800-835-4709.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:15 AM
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19. This is good........ so are they going to come to your home to remove the
recalled tissue from your knee? I sure hope they use aseptic technique, and maybe even use anesthesia...........

:mad: :wtf: :argh: :banghead:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 06:53 PM
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12. They are not frozen embryos
so they don't care. Life is only sacred BEFORE birth.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:06 PM
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13. God I hate that crap
I work on a transplant unit, and there is an entire team that evaluates each candidate. There are not enough organs to go around, and every time some evil bastards go around the system, someone needy could die. People quite possibly read this stuff and think, I'm not donating....There is a transplant unit in California that had it's program suspended for giving someone 50th on the list precedence. Couple of docs involved--who should know better- assholes. (Recipient was a Saudi national I believe)
We deal in organs, not tissue or bone on my unit but one of the hardest part of my job is watching those who have to wait, and wait and wait because of lack of transplantable organs.
To harvest without permission and place any human tissue in the national bank without going through proper channels should be a hefty prison sentence, on the order of attempted murder.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:00 AM
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18. Perhaps you can tell me, then...
When should someone NOT be a donor? I have considered adding that I am willing to be an organ donor on my driver's license, but I smoke. I'm 62, and main health problem is osteoporosis and RSDS...a condition which causes chronic pain. After I die, my body will be of no use to me, so anything that's left to donate would be fine with me.

I just don't want my lifestyle to cause problems for any future recepients...they have already been through enough hell.
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:00 PM
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14. More on this from the daily news!
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 08:21 PM by djg21
Meet the ghoul suspects

Joseph Nicelli was born into the funeral home industry, becoming a master embalmer well-known in the city's mortuary circles.
Michael Mastromarino followed a very different path into the same ghoulish world, turning to the profession when he needed a new career in his late 30s.

But court records, other documents and interviews with several people who know them provide new insight into their relationship, revealing they have much in common besides their recent partnership in the human bone and tissue recovery business.

Both are originally from Brooklyn, in their 40s, married with children and solid family men. Both are well-off, despite having histories of legal troubles.

. . . .

Nicelli has since remarried and has children, and last week, the doorway and front yard of his home on Clifton Ave. was decorated for Halloween. A "Support the Troops" yellow ribbon also adorns the front door.

more: http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/356050p-303484c.html



Body count near 1,000

Nearly 1,000 corpses will be part of the Brooklyn district attorney's expanding probe into the illicit theft and sale of bones and other body parts carved from fresh corpses at funeral homes, the Daily News has learned.
The stunning body count is being established through the tracking of funeral home records and documents from companies that bought body parts from BioMedical Tissue Services, a Fort Lee, N.J., tissue recovery company run by Michael Mastromarino.

Those documents detail information on corpses, including names and medical conditions. The body parts were sold to the companies, part of the legitimate $600 million annual national marketplace for transplants and transplant material used in a variety of medical procedures.

More: http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/356050p-303484c.html


These assholes may have been harvesting parts from bodies destined for Potter's field. You can't make this stuff up!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:17 AM
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20. Gee, a Republican, you think??
"A "Support the Troops" yellow ribbon also adorns the front door."
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:27 PM
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15. What do they do to the leftovers? Soylent green is people!!!Soylent
green is people!!!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:31 PM
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17. I heard that Soylent Green cookies are actually cream colored. Green did
not test well in the mid west.
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