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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 03:32 PM
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Nazi 'Dr Death' in Spain: report
From correspondents in Madrid
31oct05
AN AUSTRIAN doctor accused of killing hundreds of inmates at a nazi concentration camp during World War Two has been hiding in Spain for the last 20 years, a Spanish newspaper reported yesterday.

German authorities have said they are hunting for Aribert Heim, 91, known as "Doctor Death".

Heim worked in Mauthausen concentration camp in Austria and killed hundreds of inmates by lethal injection and torture, according to the Nazi-hunting Simon Wiesenthal Centre, which has also said Heim may be hiding out in Spain.

Spain's El Mundo newspaper, which has previously reported that Heim may once have lived on the Costa Brava, in northeastern Spain, said on Sunday that Heim had moved to Spain in 1985. <snip>

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17089230%5E1702,00.html

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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 03:45 PM
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1. I saw this on Yahoo and noted the "Holocaust never happened" crowd
surfaced right away. They're as sick as "Dr. Death". An awful thought just occurred to me: Would Cheney think what Heim did was okay? The prisoners he tortured were probably called "enemies of the state."

God, I hate what Bush and Cheney and their cronies stand for. And it seems they feel no shame...

Suddenly I feel sicker than usual.

Tired Old Cynic
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 03:45 PM
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2. I think the people protecting him
have been tipped off already...

(this is my part of the world).

This is now an 80-something old man.

They were following bank account trails,

But people who are rich enough can buy just about anything around here...
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 03:59 PM
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3. True everywhere, sadly. I just read your profile. Barcelona!
I love it. And Madrid.
I am so sick of politics right now, maybe it's time to take a DU break and get out an Almodovar dvd. I am envying you right now! You just have to walk out your door. Oh well, you brought up some memories. Thanks!
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:05 PM
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4. Almodovar sounds good, glitch.
I've been paying some attention to Jim Jarmusch myself, recently... ;-)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:34 PM
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7. Interesting, I haven't seen Broken Flowers yet, I have to wait for the dvd
but it sounds good, especially with Bill Murray and especially if his role is of a wobegone smartass. I haven't seen any other Jarmusch films either, so perhaps I'll find another favorite, always welcome.
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 05:11 PM
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9. Jarmusch's 'Dead Man':
Principle actors: Johnny Depp, Gary Farmer
Soundtrack: Neil Young.
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:20 PM
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5. Ok, correction, 90-something
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 04:22 PM by EuroObserver
<snip>

"Odessa, which has had one of its main operating bases in Spain during the 60 years of its history, has kept Doctor Aribert Heim...hidden in our country for the last 20 years," it said.

The report quoted investigators as saying that Heim's most lasting hideout was near the town of Roses, on the Costa Brava.

"The police suspect that, knowing that he had been located, Heim left the Roses area in a yacht to go to the Marbella area (on the southern Spanish coast)," it said.

Some of Heim's victims were Spaniards.

Many Republicans who fled to France after their defeat in the 1936-39 Spanish civil war were sent to Mauthausen after being handed over to the Nazis by the Vichy government. Some 5000 Spaniards died there.

<snip>

Latest estimates reckon at least 50,000 were murdered, under the Franco fascist regime, in Spain after the end of the civil war. Not to mention the 40-year persecution of the defeated families.

Civil war is horrible. Here most of us are feeling, crying for, the Iraqui and other middle-eastern people...

Some mass graves are being exhumed now, only now, in Spain.

ed: in relation to Heim and similar: it's necessary to keep a close eye on the Canary Islands, also.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:29 PM
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6. The late Spanish dictator Franco protected Nazi war criminals
as did the conservative governments that followed him. Now that the Socialists are in power, all kinds of things are happening in Spain: Nazis are found, Franco's mass graves are discovered, abortion becomes legal, gay marriage becomes legal.

Opus Dei was founded under the Franco dictatorship by a Hitler loving priest that was proclaimed saint by the Vatican under pressure by Opus Dei.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:44 PM
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10. Interesting, Indiana.
Which saint? I'm unfamiliar with this angle, and now I want to read some more on the subject.

fsc
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:51 PM
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11. Father Escriva founded Opus Dei and was canonized in 2002
Opus Dei controls the Vatican during JPII's reign, even having one of its members as the late Pope's personal secretary.

Opus Dei is behind the current Vatican push to impose orthodoxy including denying communion to pro-choice politicians and driving LGBTs from the Church.

Sunday, 6 October, 2002, 11:02 GMT 12:02 UK

Pope creates controversial saint

Pope John Paul II has canonised Jose Maria Escriva de Balaguer, a Spanish Roman Catholic priest and founder of the Opus Dei movement.

Almost 250,000 pilgrims from around the world attended the mass in St Peter's Square in the Vatican on Sunday.

The pope, a supporter of the controversial movement, said Saint Jose Maria was now registered "in the roll call of saints" and hailed Escriva's message as "current and urgent".

Escriva, a Spaniard who died in 1975, founded Opus Dei, meaning Work of God, to promote the principle that holiness can be achieved through excellence in every day tasks.

But critics accuse the group of secrecy and elitism and say followers have created an obsessive myth around the figure of Escriva, whom they treat like a guru.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2303247.stm
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:37 PM
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8. Eh, this isn't the right place but here:
http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/10/30/91341/115

" xog, a close friend's boyfriend
who served in Viet Nam can't stand to smell perfumes either or meats cooked on a charcoal grill, gas doesn't bother him. I wonder if it's for the same reason. After these many years he's still going through counseling.
Forever committed to struggle for justice and peace...Emah"
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