Commandments Draw 300 to Oklahoma Courthouse

[Thom Little]

A group of pastors fired up a crowd of more than 300 people during a rally around a monument engraved with the Ten Commandments on the Haskell County Courthouse lawn.

U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn spoke Saturday at the gathering in favor of the monument, which a recent American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit says is a sign of the government favoring one religion over another.

But Coburn and others who were vocal at the rally contend that the statements listed in the Ten Commandments are guidelines to a moral, law-abiding society regardless of religious beliefs.

"I wish this was in every courthouse on the lawn," said Coburn, R-Okla. "We need more of this, not less."



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[Skittles]

1. no, Coburn, we need less of this f***ing SHIT

NONE of it would be PERFECT

[tulsakatz]

4. ...and we could use a lot less of Coburn too!!

Coburn is such a moron!!

[Stand and Fight]

2. Sigh... Coburn... Couldn't they have picked Brad Carson!

For crying out loud... A couple weeks ago on NBC with Russert he's saying he can tell from body language if someone is lying and now this...

[tulsakatz]

5. I was hoping for Carson too!

In fact, I also voted for him!!

[Stand and Fight]

16. You and I both voted for him...

Carson was a bit too conservative a Democrat for my taste and I held my nose voting for him, but Tom Coburn? Hell no!

[tulsakatz]

19. Coburn is an asshole

when I hear some of the things that come out of his mouth, it's a major embarassment that this asshole actually represents me..........

[MikeH]

3. We need more of this

Right. Anybody who has or who has had an abusive parent or parents needs to be reminded of their duty to honor their parents.:sarcasm:

[tulsakatz]

7. ...and as Maher has pointed out,

only 2 of the Commandments have anything to do with the law!

I think it's fine if people want to live according to those commandments but is it really necessary to force it on everyone?

If they want the 10 commandments in a public place, why not put them everywhere? Grocery stores, malls, theaters, etc

I'm not trying to give the right wingers any ideas, I'm just saying putting the 10 commandments in a govt building makes about as much sense as putting one in a mall.

[triguy46]

14. Why not make politicians declare which of the 10 they intend to keep.

[tulsakatz]

18. that's a good point! n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. Actually, a mall makes more sense. A mall is private property,

but a courthouse is public property and should reflect the beliefs of the entire public.

A great argument could be made for posting the first 10 amendments in a courthouse - that is what the courthouse is there to uphold.

10 commandments? Not so much.

[DRoseDARs]

6. Jesus, I keep reading his name as Cockburn...

I really need to see his name more. I like the occassional cheap laugh.

[xultar]

8. GOD has officially given me the 11th Commandment to pass on to the Flock..

# 11. Thou shalt not post the commandments on any local, state, and or federal property or in any local, state, and or federal building.

[azureblue]

9. Please post the Ten Commandments- we need this.

Don't object to placing the ten commandments! Hoist them by their own petard and frame it like this:

We should go and support this. Have every pastor give a short sermon about always obeying the ten commandments, both in your personal and public life. Have all legislators & staff who insist on having the ten commandments posted, sign a pledge to uphold them at all times: that if they break any of the commandments they will quit their job, and be escorted out by security on the spot, and be forbidden to hold public office again.

And sit back and watch the hypocrites dance.

[LizW]

10. I like it. n/t

[UpInArms]

11. a lot of good folks of OKC will have more time to pray very soon

8:38am 11/21/05 GM TO CLOSE OKLAHOMA CITY PLANT IN EARLY 2006

[triguy46]

13. Interesting, the third worldization of Oklahoma...

The GM plant closes, one of the few large manufacturing sites in the state, but we do have a Dell call center that just opened. Bangalore and Delhi have nothing on OKC. We're a prime site for "outsourced" and "off shored" service support functions.

[triguy46]

12. Iconography for the fundies

Evangelical churches historically have been afraid/scared/skeptical/scornful of religious icosn, accusing Catholics of "idol worship." What I see is that the 10 commandment statues have become the iconography for the religious right, something they all circle around and pray to. The other interesting thing is once again what is supposed to be a New Testament faith, aggressively embracing OT theology when it fits their small vision.

Don't even get me on Tom "Don't mind me while I sterilize you without your consent" Coburn.

[hatrack]

17. "Uh! Uh! Must worship Holy Rock! Uh! Uh!"

Yeah, Tom, we need much, MUCH more of this, not less. :eyes: :puke:

[DaveColorado]

20. Coburn and Inhofe make Hutchison and Cornyn look like liberals.

[sofa king]

21. It's a shame they're all going to Hell.

They're all going to hell because they have not paid attention to Exodus 20:22-26, which unfortunately wouldn't fit on the tablets but which is nevertheless a direct order from God:

Then the LORD said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘You have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. 23 You shall not make anything to be with Me—gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves. 24 An altar of earth you shall make for Me, and you shall sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, your sheep and your oxen. In every place where I record My name I will come to you, and I will bless you. 25 And if you make Me an altar of stone, you shall not build it of hewn stone; for if you use your tool on it, you have profaned it. 26 Nor shall you go up by steps to My altar, that your nakedness may not be exposed on it.’

Last time I went to church, the altar was of wood, or sometimes hewn marble. There was a statue of Jesus on the cross there. There were no sheep or oxen being sacrificed. And (also in violation of etiquette toward our disabled citizens) there were steps leading up to the altar.

They've also been dilatory in separating Hebrew slaves from their wives and children upon release. And let's not even start on that shellfish thing. You're all going to Hell.

[wickerwoman]

22. 1.) I am the Lord, thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Sounds like a great "guideline to a moral, law-abiding society regardless of religious beliefs."

And wasn't there one against worshipping idols? Irony, irony.