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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:16 AM
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And Now, Frank Talk About Iraq - Bush team shows less bravado
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-na-assess3nov03,1,436143.story?coll=la-home-headlines

President Bush and his aides sound distinctly less triumphal these days about the prospects for early success in the continuing war in Iraq -- a deliberate change in tone after a week of setbacks on several fronts.

A series of newly sophisticated attacks by anti-American insurgents --including a missile strike on a U.S. helicopter Sunday that killed more than a dozen troops, the deadliest single attack since U.S. forces invaded Iraq in March -- has made the administration's claims of progress look shaky, at least in the short run.

And as political sniping over the war stepped up in Washington, it became clear that the president faces not one but two implacable enemies: the rebels in Iraq plus the relentless pressure of time in an election year.

Military experts say it takes time, and troops on the ground, to defeat a well-entrenched insurgency -- more time and troops than the Bush administration initially wanted to spend. But the longer the struggle takes, they warn, the greater the danger that support for the war effort, among both Iraqis and Americans, will waver.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:39 AM
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1. I wonder if the chimp
will continue on his "Happy News Tour?" It's just that awful "filter" again. Things are just fine over there.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:43 AM
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2. Lots of Kobe, Scott Peterson this week
You can be sure of it.

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 04:02 AM
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6. don't forget about
Teen surfer describes shark attack
Sunday, November 2, 2003 Posted: 10:46 AM EST (1546 GMT)


LIHUE, Hawaii (AP) -- The water was clear and there was no indication of danger when a 13-year-old surfing star went out on the waves with her best friend and her friend's father.

But while Bethany Hamilton was lying on her board off Kauai's North Shore, a shark bit once and then disappeared, taking off her left arm just below the shoulder.

"Nobody saw it happen. She just yelled, 'A shark bit me!"' said her father, Tom Hamilton.

Bethany Hamilton, who remained in stable condition after the attack Friday morning, talked of the attack Saturday
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CookieD Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:52 PM
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17. Yeah, it's all Kobe, all Scott ...
all the time. Pathetic media.

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:27 AM
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3. Bush is running out of troops,
out of money, and the Americans are running out of patience with him.

On the news: maybe the misled TV-viewers will now turn off the TV and get their news on the Internet.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:43 AM
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4. What, no more "Bring Them On"? n/t
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 03:08 AM
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5. As Dubya would say: "There's an old saying in Texas..."
"You gotta know when to hold'm, and when to fold'm."

The whole world knows George W. Bush is one big bluff personified. Everyone at the table has been losing to the phony "Texan," and they're not happy about it. The "Bring them on" patter isn't working anymore.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:07 PM
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10. But Bush* Has A Black Box Up His Sleeve That Prints Aces All Day Long
How can he ever lose?
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:53 PM
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11. What? Bush never said "Bring it on."
That was the sailors on the Kitty Hawk that said that. It was all their idea.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 04:07 AM
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7. did you catch the ROONEY segment on 60 minutes?
Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 01:56 PM by Skinner
If I Were Bush's Speechwriter ...
Nov. 2, 2003



(CBS) A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney.


Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon.

I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a speech for him now.

Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely:


My fellow Americans - (the word "fellow" includes women in political speeches):

My fellow Americans. One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said it.

I said we were going to get Saddam Hussein. To be honest, we don't know whether we got him or not. Probably not.

I said we'd get Osama bin Laden and wipe out al Qaeda. We haven't been able to do that, either. I'm as disappointed as you are.

I probably shouldn't have said Iraq had nuclear weapons. Our guys and the U.N. have looked under every bed in Iraq and can't find one.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:18 AM
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8. Too bad psychotics are incapable
of such behavior. Not that the idealogues surrounding the simian would ever let his speak such things to begin with....

Julie
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:25 AM
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9. but the crime rate is down
I had one warmonger post that as if that's was suppose to mean something.. I ask him if the crime number he poster were post-Saddam or pre-Saddam Iraq.. I never got an answer..
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:56 PM
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12. Things aren't going as planned!
Iraqi's were suppose to be happy
Oil flowing
Money pouring in

and
Iraqis ticked
Oil Pipelines Sabotaged
Money pouring out :bounce:
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:38 PM
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13. Repubs are going to wish they had listened to the peace marchers
Republicans would be in a much better place today if the war had never started and we were still debating it in the UN.

I think some repubs will say privately that they wished we hadn't gone to war.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:51 PM
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15. You'd think 10,000,000 people around the world
would have had a tiny impact on W, but he chose to label all those people as "focus groups"........what a MAJOR insult!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:46 PM
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14. And it only took 350 dead soldiers
See? They can learn a lesson! A few hundred dead soldiers, a couple thousand wounded, and uncounted tens of thousands of dead civilians, and these boneheads figure it out just like that <snap!> that all is not going quite as well as projected. I just hope that the next lesson doesn't come at the same or higher cost.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:51 PM
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16. MoPaul, Baby. We Need You.
Please provide us one of your killer graphic creations with Bush's "Bring 'em On" dare juxtaposed against the coffins and death as only you can.
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